Would Americans have the guts?


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big boom
May 16, 2013, 05:28 PM
If, say, USA got invaded, would Americans resist? Would we cower under the bed, or would we take a leaf out of the French partisans' book? If so, what would we do? Fight a guerrilla war?

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Delford
May 16, 2013, 05:34 PM
Yes, we would resist. I would join my neighbor (retired LEO) and anyone nearby and figure out how to put up an effective counter attack.

beatledog7
May 16, 2013, 05:35 PM
Look around. The invasion began a long time ago.

There are millions of people on US soil who broke the law to enter, and we haven't fired a shot to resist. Most of them haven't either.

Now, if you mean a Red Dawn kind of thing, I have no doubt there would be armed resistance, but far too many Americans would simply huddle together in their supposedly safe and secure dwellings and believe the government would protect them. That is, if they were even aware enough to know the invasion had begun.

Warp
May 16, 2013, 05:35 PM
I don't see the real world relevance to this question.

The short answer to the question you asked in your post is Yes.

But of course not all, is is true with almost every society.

Texan Scott
May 16, 2013, 05:36 PM
Thanks.... now I have the "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" song stuck on my head. :p

I don't see this one lasting long...

gandog56
May 16, 2013, 05:37 PM
Just remember this one thing......Japan attacked because they thought we WOULDN'T fight!

sawdeanz
May 16, 2013, 05:39 PM
I think yes for an external threat, but for an internal "invasion" of our rights I am afraid probably not

Warp
May 16, 2013, 05:39 PM
Just remember this one thing......Japan attacked because they thought we WOULDN'T fight!

I don't think that's how it went.

I think they believed our involvement was inevitable, so they took the opportunity to attempt to strike a quick, powerful blow while we were stuck trying to remain isolationists, primarily as a result of not liking The Great War

jr45
May 16, 2013, 05:40 PM
Look around. The invasion began a long time ago.

There are millions of people on US soil who broke the law to enter, and we haven't fired a shot to resist. Most of them haven't either.

Now, if you mean a Red Dawn kind of thing, I have no doubt there would be armed resistance, but far too many Americans would simply huddle together in their supposedly safe and secure dwellings and believe the government would protect them. That is, if they were even aware enough to know the invasion had begun.


+1^^

We (America in general) do not have the guts...just look around and see how most of us have become sheep.

230RN
May 16, 2013, 05:45 PM
Fight a guerrilla war?

Are you kidding? We've been bleeding off the hale, the hearty, the brave, the fit, the adventurous, the tough, the lieutenants and noncoms, the martially proficient, the "what's over the next mountain" guys...

... in so many wars for the last umpteen decades that we have practically bred out any substantial Resistants* in our population. It's been kind of a genocide in terms of a gradual genetic selection process.

Those who would try to take that effing hill or bunker or trench but get killed don't come back home to breed.

No, we won't resist as long as the invaders provide circuses and bread and keep the lid on their inevitable massacres of any remaining hale and hearties who have been "concentrated" in camps to await the fate of a mass grave.

That's my take on it. Just to do some pot-stirring.

Terry, 230RN

* "Resistant" was the French usage for a French Resistance fighter. Pronounced "ray-zis-TONT."

kwguy
May 16, 2013, 05:47 PM
A small percentage would fight, and fight well, but most would not. Out of those that don't, there will be those who won't because of family or safety or other condsiderations, but would have sympathy for the cause of the fighters.

Many would not actively fight, but would somehow support those that do, if they could.

And then there would be those who would be against the fighters because it 'brings the pain' down on the rest of the populace, and they would blame the fighters for fighting a losing fight, and making things harder on them.

This, or some variation of this, is what always plays out.

Delford
May 16, 2013, 05:48 PM
gandog
the Japanese attacked Pearl but wouldn't invade the mainland because they knew "everbody there has a gun".

Teachu2
May 16, 2013, 05:52 PM
gandog
the Japanese attacked Pearl but wouldn't invade the mainland because they knew "everbody there has a gun".
They didn't even invade Hawaii.

The question today is "What will you do if the Chinese foreclose?"

Warp
May 16, 2013, 05:53 PM
gandog
the Japanese attacked Pearl but wouldn't invade the mainland because they knew "everbody there has a gun".

That quote about a gun 'behind every blade of grass' is a myth, BTW.

Walkalong
May 16, 2013, 05:54 PM
We don't do fantasy or SHTF threads.

Al Thompson
May 16, 2013, 05:54 PM
Not seeing this one as being on topic.

silicosys4
May 16, 2013, 06:01 PM
I don't think that's how it went.

I think they believed our involvement was inevitable, so they took the opportunity to attempt to strike a quick, powerful blow while we were stuck trying to remain isolationists, primarily as a result of not liking The Great War

Japan was also not trying to "conquer" us per say, but to leave us unable to oppose them in any military capacity, and to bring us to the negotiating table so as to have a truce, and end our opposition to their imperialist expansionism.
They also knew they could never invade U.S. soil. There is a quote, although mistakenly attributed to Yamamoto, that went something like this:

You cannot invade the mainland of the United States. There would be a man with a rifle behind every blade of grass.

happygeek
May 16, 2013, 06:10 PM
I think they believed our involvement was inevitable, so they took the opportunity to attempt to strike a quick, powerful blow while we were stuck trying to remain isolationists, primarily as a result of not liking The Great War


It wasn't so much they thought we'd get involved, we already were in terms of putting an embargo on them. We didn't like that they had invaded China and were pulling stunts like the Rape of Nanking. Apparently our embargo was having enough of an effect for them to alter their plans. Since they didn't want to cease their conquest of China they decided they'd rather seize the islands in the Pacific that had the resources they wanted. The problem was our navy at Pearl Harbor might contest their taking said islands, hence their decision to launch a surprise attack on 7 Dec 1941.

big boom
May 16, 2013, 06:21 PM
I'm sorry, moderator peoples. Just delete it if you see fit.

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