Anything bad to say about wilson combat?


February 3, 2003, 06:44 PM
Still looking for a new .45 and narrowed it down to two. I noticed 10ring seems to be willing to get rid of his so I'm just wondering.
I'm down to Wilson and HK so anything bad to say about ???

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February 3, 2003, 07:05 PM
:what: NOPE, NOT ME! Skunkabilly :p I guess all us Asians on the internet look alike! :neener: :D

PS...I think Skunk is evolving away from the 45 acp an more dedicated to the 9mm which is why he's willing to sell/trade away his Wilson.
Personally, I've met guys that really like Wilson & those that prefer someone else.

February 3, 2003, 07:20 PM
I really like MY Wilson. Would buy another one if I wasn't planning building a true custom .45.

It is my primary defense pistol, -and I own 3 H&Ks.

I sent back my Wilson for some work & for refinishing of ArmorTuff. I don't like that polymer coating at all and think it too soft for carry. All exposed edges were worn off including slide serrations area from me just working the action. I had to complain to Wilson to get them to agree to redo.

On the other hand, they changed recoil systems after I bought my gun (no longer use Shok Buffs) but they automatically offered to upgrade me to new rod & spring system.

All in all, my Wilson experience is a great on in terms of quality, shootability and service. It has passed my impromptu 1000-round outdoor shoot without cleaning or lube.

February 3, 2003, 07:25 PM
The only complaint I have is the PRICE!!! :D

Sean Smith
February 3, 2003, 07:34 PM
Wilson's aren't my cup of tea, but they are a quality product. If you want a semi-custom 1911, and are more biased towards reliability, they are a good choice. If you are more biased towards accuracy, get a Baer. If you want the best semi-custom gun out there, get an Ed Brown. Of course, they also cost more than a Wilson or Baer, too. The only real downside to a Wilson is the Armor-Tuff finish, which ain't so "tuff" by most accounts. :D

February 3, 2003, 07:36 PM
thanks for the opinions.

Sorry 10Ring I just can't read today

February 3, 2003, 08:35 PM
I've never owned a Wilson .45 but I have bought other things from them and a lot of parts. Others can, I'm sure, tell you about the weapons, but I can tell you that their customer service is excellent and that the people you talk to on the phone are friendly and have good product knowledge.

My 2 cents, YMMV

February 3, 2003, 10:21 PM
Only thing I would look for in WC:

1. I hear some models use MIM parts. A lot of guys have stuff against MIM so if you do, make sure you call and ask which models don't. If you look thru their catalog it'll say "This model uses all tool steel parts".

I don't know about several years ago if MIM was the norm; You may want to do some research and find out if a CQB from 3 years ago will have all tool steel parts, and if they do not now (I think they use MIM), or if you'll have to upgrade to a pricier model if you are a stickler for tool steel. A used CQB from several years ago may be different....?

2. I hear the Armortuff is getting better and recent makes have few reported problems. I have less than 1000 rds thru mine (probably something like 700) so it's too early to tell if mine will or won't. I got it in July of 2002 as a graduation prize.

I think I ought to stop getting guns for sentimental reasons because I always end up trading them away.

I highly recommend you try shooting one before buying. The ergonomics aren't for everyone. It's the only gun I shoot that unless I keep my fingernails real short, it'll dig in my palm.

While my Beretta is fat, the Wilson is about as wide, but LONGER since it's a 1911. I thought, "Gee, I have no problems w/ my fat Beretta, so the KZ will be alright," but as it's LONGER it has a higher grip circumference, at least it feels that way.

Feel free to PM me or give me a call if you want to talk Wilsons.

If you want a SWEET pistol, check out the P7M8. World's greatest underpowered firearm, and off the charts on the CDI index.

February 3, 2003, 10:46 PM
I'll second the comment on the price. Way too rich for my blood!

February 3, 2003, 10:55 PM
well as far as the price tag, the guy at the store today qouted me 975 on a HK USP Tact. so what's that like 300 more. I want a satin, silver, or chrome slide, so that jacks the HK up another 100 or so+ shipping. Balances out close enough for me to not worry about.

February 3, 2003, 10:57 PM
snaps - No biggie! ;) and I was just having a little fun, hope you took no offense in what I said :)

February 3, 2003, 11:00 PM
none taken. I always mix up y'all folks from Cali:D

February 3, 2003, 11:12 PM
They build a good gun, but it is overpriced for what you get. I have a Wilson CQB that is flawless, but have heard of problems with Super Grade guns that simply should not have been allowed out the door. This would be my order for the semi-custom market:

Les Baer (Thunder Ranch Special in particular) or Ed Brown Kobra
Wilson Combat

If you want of one-of-a-kind piece, you'll want a custom gun. I have guns from Vickers and Tibbets, and let me tell you, I'm not worthy!!! :D

February 3, 2003, 11:22 PM
Oh yeah. One bone to pick with Wilson...

They haven't caught on that we only use the T-word as a joke now!!!

February 3, 2003, 11:23 PM
well neither has HK:D

February 3, 2003, 11:24 PM
The Baers that I have handled were practically works of art. I LOVE properly blued 1911s... :cool:

If I was dumping over a G on a 1911 it would most likely be a Baer...unless of course I had the expedible income to go with a Teddy Jacobsen custom 1911 with a Caspian damascus slide and frame that is... :evil:

(...price? a mere $3000... ;) )

February 3, 2003, 11:27 PM
well neither has HK

You haven't flipped thru that Wilson catalog have you?

February 3, 2003, 11:31 PM
I've glanced at it.

Kahr carrier
February 4, 2003, 09:48 AM
Nope they are nice .:)

February 4, 2003, 12:42 PM
Never been awed by them. Nice guns, overpriced. Now an Ed Brown THAT'S A NICE GUN.

February 4, 2003, 03:06 PM
I've glanced at it.

Par example...

urban tactical
tactical lightweight
tactical knives
tactical precision
tactical elite
tactical carry pistol
tactical super grade
tactical thumb safety designed specifically for concealed carry
tactical targeting system
tactical bolt handle thingy
tactical magazine pouch
tactical assault
tactical paddle
tactical gear headquarters
etc. ;)

BTW the Wilson fit and finish is incredible and I think they will fix THEIR gun no matter who bought it first. If you buy my KZ45 or find a CQB used, I think they will still fix it. Talk to them though.

They pay shipping on the way home.

February 4, 2003, 03:17 PM
Ed Browns and Clarks and true customs are not available in CA unless you find a person to person sale in CA.

If you are buying a used Wilson, you should at least look at the Valtro - every bit as nice, but in one configuration only. If you like blueing and adjustable sights, it is a great gun.

Really, you will not go wrong with Wilson, Baer or Valtro.

February 4, 2003, 06:20 PM
My Wilson is my favorite pistol, and I've owned quite a few, including three Hk's. I's all I want to shoot these days.
I can't comment on the plastic Wilsons but the steel ones are great. Mine has been completely reliable, more accurate than anything else I've owned, and Wilson will repair ir for free if it EVER breaks. But a good steel 1911 should last for several hundred thousand rounds if maintained.
I second the vote for the Valtro also.

February 4, 2003, 08:51 PM
Wilson is a great shop. I can't say enough good things about them except they don't work on Berettas.

February 5, 2003, 03:07 AM
They shoot great.
But not that much better than other 1911s.


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