Ronnie Barrett Verbally Spanks LAPD Chief


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Airwolf
February 3, 2003, 05:55 PM
Damn! :what:

I wish I had the $$$ to buy an Model99 right now to show my support!

http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/la50banbarrett.shtml

December 11, 2002

Chief William J. Bratton
Los Angeles Police Department
150 North Los Angeles Street

Re: LAPD 82A Rifle, Serial No. 1186

Point of Contact: Jim Moody
213 485 4061

Dear Chief Bratton,

I, a U.S. citizen, own Barrett Firearms Mfg. Inc., and for 20 years I have built .50 caliber rifles for my fellow citizens, for their Law Enforcement departments and for their nation's armed forces.

You may be aware of the latest negative misinformation campaign from a Washington based anti-gun group, the Violence Policy Center. The VPC has, for three or so years, been unsuccessful in Washington, D.C. trying to demonize and ban a new subclass of firearms, the .50 caliber and other "too powerful" rifles. This type of nibbling process has been historically successful in civilian disarmament of other nations governed by totalitarian and other regimes less tolerant of individual rights than the United States .

The VPC's most recent efforts directs this misinformation campaign at your state, attempting to get any California body to pass any law against .50 caliber firearms. In March 2002 the VPC caused the California State Assembly, Public Safety Committee to consider and reject the issue by a 5 to 0 with 1 abstaining vote.

Regrettably, the same material has been presented to your city council. I personally attended the council meeting in Los Angeles regarding attempts to bar ownership of the .50 caliber rifle in your city. I was allowed to briefly address the council. The tone of the discussion was mostly emotionally based, so the facts that I attempted to provide were ineffective to the extent they were heard at all. The council voted to have the city attorney draft an ordinance to ban the .50, and further, to instruct the city's representatives in Sacramento and in Washington D.C. to push for bans at their respective levels.

At that council meeting, I was very surprised to see an LAPD officer seated front and center with a Barrett 82A1 .50 cal rifle. It was the centerpiece of the discussion. As you know, there have been no crimes committed with these rifles, and most importantly, current California law does not allow the sale of the M82AI in the state because of its detachable magazine and features that make it an "assault weapon." This rifle was being deceptively used by your department. The officer portrayed it as a sample of a currently available .50 cal rifle, available for sale to the civilians of Los Angeles. One councilman even questioned how this rifle was available under current laws, but as I stated, facts were ineffective that day.

Your officer, speaking for the LAPD, endorsed the banning of this rifle and its ammunition. Then he used the rifle for photo ops with the Councilmen each of whom, in handling the firearm, may have been committing a felony. I was amazed.

Since 1968, with the closing of the U.S. Springfield Amory, all of the small arms produced for the various government agencies are from the private sector. Every handgun, rifle or shotgun that law enforcement needs comes from this firearms industry. Unless the City of Los Angeles has plans of setting up its own firearms manufacturing, it may need to guard the manufacturing sources it has now.

When I returned to my office from Los Angeles, I found an example of our need for mutual cooperation. Your department had sent one of your 82A1 rifles in to us for service. All of my knowledge in the use of my rifle in the field of law enforcement had been turned upside down by witnessing how your department used yours. Not to protect and serve, but for deception, photo opportunities, and to further an ill-conceived effort that may result in the use of LA taxpayer monies to wage losing political battles in Washington against civil liberties regarding gun ownership.

Please excuse my slow response on the repair service of the rifle. I am battling to what service I am repairing the rifle for. I will not sell, nor service, my rifles to those seeking to infringe upon the Constitution and the crystal clear rights it affords individuals to own firearms.

I implore you to investigate the facts of the .50, to consider the liberties of the law-abiding people and our mutual coexistence, and to change your department's position on this issue.

Sincerely,
BARRETT FIREARMS MANUFACTURING, INC.


Ronnie Barrett
President

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Skunkabilly
February 3, 2003, 06:07 PM
You go boyeeeeeeeeee!!

El Tejon
February 3, 2003, 06:14 PM
I wish the gun companies would band together and refuse to sell guns, spare parts, gunsmithing or ammo to the LA po-po. Let them fight the Crips and Bloods with sticks and rocks.

Pipe dream I know.:(

SIGarmed
February 3, 2003, 06:17 PM
This is great. I love it. Someone needs to tell the truth. The city of Los Angeles is run by the worst people that could possibly run a city. Its like a new meaning to the term "the inmates are running the asylum".

Gnull
February 3, 2003, 06:18 PM
Good for Barrett! Wish I could see more companies standing up for those who made them what they are: Law abiding, freedom loving Gun owners.

Carlos Cabeza
February 3, 2003, 06:18 PM
Ronnie Barrett = REAL AMERICAN !

Carlos Cabeza = FUTURE Barrett Customer !:cuss:

50 Shooter
February 3, 2003, 06:24 PM
The sickest part of the whole story is the fact that LAPD SWAT had the BALLS to send their M82A1 back for service the week after the hearings!!!

The LACC are a bunch of mindless dolts, they never think about anything they vote on or the out come of their actions.

10-Ring
February 3, 2003, 06:25 PM
You go boyeeeeeeeeee!!

Well said!

Hkmp5sd
February 3, 2003, 06:26 PM
Just makes me want one even more!

Sergeant Bob
February 3, 2003, 06:27 PM
What the heck does the LAPD need 50's for anyway? Good letter though, we need more manufacturers to grow a pair.

Fed168
February 3, 2003, 06:52 PM
Nice.

FPrice
February 3, 2003, 07:03 PM
Perhaps one of the finest "letter to the editor" type of writing I have seen in a long time. Too bad, as he stated, that Los Angles is ignoring facts in response to mindless emotionalism.

critter
February 3, 2003, 07:13 PM
I keep telling you guys that facts and reason are wasted on idiotic liberals. BTW, 'idiotic' and 'liberal' constitute a redundancy!

FPrice
February 3, 2003, 07:21 PM
I just sent this email to Mr. Barrett.

Dear Mr. Barrett,

The text of your recent letter to the Los Angeles City Council was posted on a firearms enthusiast forum, The High Road (http://www.thehighroad.org). Those of us who read it and commented feel that you have made a very powerful and intelligent rebuttal to the mis-guided (and I am being very generous here) efforts of the LACC to ban .50 caliber rifles. ANY attempt to ban one kind of firearm such as these rifles is nothing less than an incremental step in attempting to ban all firearms. For if one particular type of firearm can be demonized as being "bad" then it is only a short step to including more and more types until none are left.

While I normally do not try to speak for others, I am sure that I am safe in saying that all of us support your efforts and hope that you are instrumental in preventing this ban from actually being implemented.

Having read your spirited defense of your products (and by inference the law-abiding firearms owners of this country) I now wish that I had been able to purchase the used Barrett M82A1 which was on sale at Four Seasons in Woburn, MA this past year. Hopefully another one will be available at a time when I can afford it.

Thank you for efforts.

Sincerely,

F Price, Jr.


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=93465#post93465

Boats
February 3, 2003, 07:39 PM
Can't afford the rifle now? Do what I am going to do after reading that letter--buy a spare part for your future rifle. Maybe I will start with some magazines.:evil:

Frohickey
February 3, 2003, 07:51 PM
Please excuse my slow response on the repair service of the rifle. I am battling to what service I am repairing the rifle for. I will not sell, nor service, my rifles to those seeking to infringe upon the Constitution and the crystal clear rights it affords individuals to own firearms.

Every single gun manufacturer in the United States or doing business in the United States should have this as their standing policy, but apply it to the law enforcement agency that is organized under the law-making body trying to ban firearms.

Lets see... I can see Colt or FN refusing to do business with the United States Government because of the United States Congress.

I can see Maryland state troopers and local police departments having no armorer support or spare parts for their service pistols and shotguns

I can see California Highway Patrol having a waiting list on 'officers' waiting to be issued servce pistols because of a backlog of orders from gun manufacturers.

Bartholomew Roberts
February 3, 2003, 08:49 PM
I have never had the smallest desire to own a .50 BMG rifle until now...

Skunkabilly
February 3, 2003, 08:53 PM
If .50 BMGs have a high CDI Index I will consider one!!!

jmbg29
February 3, 2003, 09:07 PM
You go boyeeeeeeeeee!!Word! :D

4570Rick
February 3, 2003, 09:51 PM
Charactor like Mr. Barrett's is rare and should respected.;)

Don Gwinn
February 3, 2003, 10:08 PM
Outstanding. Maybe I can afford a magazine, a t-shirt--anything he sells. This man deserves every penny we can send him.

Frohickey
February 3, 2003, 10:12 PM
If .50 BMGs have a high CDI Index I will consider one!!!

What's a CDI index?

Bob Locke
February 3, 2003, 10:23 PM
Barret Rifles (http://www.barrettrifles.com/)

For reference.

Gonna start squirreling away for at least a 99...

pittspilot
February 3, 2003, 10:28 PM
Time to start saving the pennies

labgrade
February 3, 2003, 10:49 PM
Barret makes a loud, resounding Ba-Boom! ... the fiream itself, too.

Re: LAPD 82A Rifle, Serial No. 1186

Anybody think this rifle w/same S/N won't be showing up on some "sketchy" registration forms. :D

gun-fucious
February 4, 2003, 12:33 AM
me thinks Tamara is an expert judge of the CDI factor

an AR15 has a CDI of 8
add 3 if it has a RAS
add 10 if it rockinrolls

a 50bmg is easily a CDI of 12
the Windrunner is a 14

MitchSchaft
February 4, 2003, 02:27 AM
Oh boy how I wish other manufacturers would follow in the same footsteps as to not sell or manufacture their goods to antis.

FPrice, please post a reply if you get one. This man is amazing.

Skunkabilly
February 4, 2003, 02:52 AM
CDI = Chicks Dig It!

Berettas hiiiiigh up on the list, right up with the P7M8.
M1A = low CDI index :( I need a new rifle....

foghornl
February 4, 2003, 09:26 AM
We can only hope that it takes Mr Barret's company a VERY LOOOONG time to fix LAPD's rifle.....Like forever.

Along with comments that since the LAPD allowed "civilians" to hold the Big 50 rifle, they have commiited several felonies, and their rifle cannot be returned untill ALL involved are in jail.

KMKeller
February 4, 2003, 09:39 AM
VERY nicely done!

MonkeyMan
February 4, 2003, 10:02 AM
Since Mr. Barrett was a witness to a felony, actually multiple felonies, involving the rifle in question, shouldn't he send it to the Beer, Butts, and Bullet people until an investigation can be completed:evil:

I've always wanted to shoot a .50cal, now I want to own one.

labgrade
February 4, 2003, 10:42 AM
Nice take = whomever.

Rifle must be impounded as evidence, & pending trial outcome.

Subsequent warranty fixes will be sorted out "at a later date."

What a hoot! that LAPD would have their own gun, in their own "evidence locker," waiting for their own betters to be tried, for laws they, themselves instigated.

Make it fly, Ronnie! ;)

MonkeyMan
February 4, 2003, 10:54 AM
What a hoot! that LAPD would have their own gun, in their own "evidence locker," waiting for their own betters to be tried, for laws they, themselves instigated.

Make it fly, Ronnie!

Fly Ronnie.

Aye, Ronnie

Irony.

What goes around comes around.:D

Oh yeah, best served cold.:evil:

Skunkabilly
February 4, 2003, 01:29 PM
He should install some 'smart gun' technology on it to make it 'safer' for them :D

Lots of good folks at LAPD too bad a few big mouths make the rest look bad.

Master Blaster
February 4, 2003, 01:40 PM
While he has it he could install a child safety trigger lock on it and forget to send them a key, You never know when a three year old could get a hold of such a dangerous weapon:rolleyes:

mpthole
February 4, 2003, 02:42 PM
Ronnie Barrett hit a home run with that letter! Glad I bought my M99 when I did. Its been reliable and accurate and would definitely do it again.

Kharn
February 4, 2003, 05:48 PM
I wonder how the LA SWAT team is reacting to the news that their favorite toy isnt coming back anytime soon. I'd love a picture of thier facial expressions.

Kharn

El Tejon
February 4, 2003, 06:50 PM
California police "smart gun" technology=>pouring concrete down the barrels of the cops' weapons! Long past time for the gunmakers to start attacking.:cool:

Baba Louie
February 4, 2003, 08:54 PM
If only someone could roust a "Grand Jury" to look into the alleged crimes that Mr. Barret was witness to... It could bring some warranted publicity to light... (Was that on KeepandBearArms this morning? A citizen bringing charges to a grand jury to review, that is. Think I'll take a look again)
(edited to say I found what I was looking for, but it's not really germain to the thread... )

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/1759935

(end edit)

Naaaaahhhhh, never happen in lala land.

Adios

12.7x99mm
February 5, 2003, 06:01 PM
Ive met Mr Barrett and The owner of Windrunner a few times. Nice guys. Im glad I spent my money with this company. This letter will be history. Its allready all over the net. Read more responces here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/836082/posts

Save your cash and buy a fifty. They are so much fun. Just know that your getting into allot of stuff and money well spent.

Drjones
February 5, 2003, 07:47 PM
Dear Mr. Barrett:

I read the letter you sent to the Los Angeles Police Department.

All I can say is; what a beautiful, eloquently written letter!

A million thanks for standing up so vocally for the rights of the
American People!

I appreciate the effort more than I can express in words.

I hope to purchase one of your fine rifles soon!


Warmest Regards,
Strati Vourakis
evourakis@csus.edu
----------------------------------

Their addy: mail@barrettrifles.com


How much does one of their rifles cost anyway?

Mad Man
February 6, 2003, 01:25 AM
In the July 30 2002 edition of National Review Online, David Kopel (http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel073002.asp) proposed a constitutional amendment that would require gun control laws to be applied to the government.

This would allow federal, state, and local governments to pass gun control laws, as long as their employees (eg- cops) were not exempted from those laws.

After all, if "assault rifles", .50 BMG rifles, "junk guns," etc., have no legitimate purposes, as the anti-gunners claim, then why do the cops need them?

Maybe some manufacturers will now have the courage to refuse to sell firearms to New Jersey government agencies that don't incorporate "smart gun" technology, even though police officers are exempt from the new law requiring this technology (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73763,00.html).

The White Flyer
February 6, 2003, 11:50 PM
:confused:

mpthole
February 6, 2003, 11:59 PM
*** edited ***

waterdog
February 7, 2003, 12:27 AM
Yeah!, why does the LAPD need a .50, or several?

Maybe they need the capability of shooting through the thick armor of a dropped 63 Impala??

Just another toy for the SWAT boys.

waterdog

Mark Benningfield
February 7, 2003, 01:37 AM
Hello All.

Attaboy, Ronnie Barrett!!! Sic 'em, son!!!

Man, now I want one of those big honkin' rifles even worse!!:(

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