Caliber specific powder funnel?


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Mohave-Tec
June 8, 2013, 11:11 PM
Who makes a really great caliber specific powder funnel? I'd like to find something specifically for my more precise 223 loads. Conditions and circumstances change depending on the powder I'm using but both the generic and the modular RCBS are a pain in the ass.
Thanks in advance.

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GLOOB
June 9, 2013, 12:24 AM
I bought one for 223 from Saturn Machining. It worked ok, but it still spilled powder.

I am using a DIY funnel made from a 223 case. If you size a 223 case with the expander rod removed, then give it a good outside chamfer, it'll just rest in the lip of an expanded 223 case. Then you just have to cut it off at the shoulder and attach it to a funnel.

rcmodel
June 9, 2013, 12:28 AM
I use one of these with .223 when I even bother to weigh charges, and have never ever had a problem with it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/118739/lyman-electronic-scale-powder-funnel-pan

rc

higgite
June 9, 2013, 12:33 AM
I have 2 Saturns, one for .223 and one for .308. No spilled powder with either one. One, I forget which, has a tiny lip that catches a minute amount of powder where the funnel meets the drop tube, but a quick "rattle" before removing it takes care of that. I keep saying I'm going to Dremel that smoother when I get a round tuit.

P.S. Never any static cling.

ArchAngelCD
June 9, 2013, 12:34 AM
I second Satern Funnels.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/480995/satern-powder-funnel-22-caliber-aluminum-and-brass

HJ857
June 9, 2013, 08:21 AM
This is also a very nice set. I've had my set for probably six years now without any issues. All the tips have o-rings on them and there is no spillage at all.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/554122/frankford-arsenal-powder-funnel-with-16-nozzles-and-4-drop-tube

Mohave-Tec
June 9, 2013, 10:09 AM
Alright everybody. I'm going to order both the Satern in 223 and the FA set. Tippng funnels are not my issue, it is the neck size. And I'm making a mess as well as questioning my charge weights.

beatledog7
June 9, 2013, 01:53 PM
For .223 I use a funnel made of paper. I simply taped about a 4" square into a cone shape and trimmed the result. It took a couple of tries to get the right shape and size.

The big end measures about 1.25" across, and the little end is just .18". Stick powders such as Varget pour through with just a tap of encouragement. It inserts just .25" or so into the case mouth, so I support it with one hand and pour out the scale pan with the other. No spillage, no interference with full cases.

Cost: probably less than a penny and about 15 minutes.

Rule3
June 9, 2013, 02:07 PM
I have the good old Lee and two Lymans. The scale funnel that RC mentions I use a lot. The other Lyman works perfect on 223 also. They all work.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/137330/lyman-e-zee-powder-funnel-22-to-50-caliber


http://www.midwayusa.com/product/118739/lyman-electronic-scale-powder-funnel-pan

dagger dog
June 10, 2013, 05:57 PM
I second the Frankford Arsenal, if you get the Midway Flyer they put them on sale about once a year for 4-5 bucks off regular price.

The o ring feature makes them almost 1 piece they stay on the case and do not leak.

TexasShooter59
June 10, 2013, 08:59 PM
For .223, Satern for the win! No spills here. I previously used a Lyman (different from RC's) and it was a hassle. I plan to get a 30 caliber Satern when I am ordering stuff where I can add it.

Miata Mike
June 10, 2013, 11:35 PM
I think I have the Saturn funnel and never use it any more. Bought a Lee die to funnel the powder in. Something about any external funnel just didn't work for me.

JustSomeGuyinCA
June 10, 2013, 11:55 PM
I have Saturn funnels in .223 and .30 cal. I prefer them when doing non-progressive powder work. No problems with spilled powder here.

rayatphonix
June 11, 2013, 07:53 AM
Another vote for the Satern funnels. I've got them from 20 caliber on up. I've learned to give them a quick tap before I move them to the next case and any powder stuck on the sides goes into the brass.

Jim Watson
June 11, 2013, 08:43 AM
I have one of the Saterns and will get another.

I also treasure one of the last generic aluminum Pacific powder funnels.
No wash with this or wipe with that to try to prevent static cling, it just funnels.

Rule3
June 11, 2013, 10:59 AM
Wow, a bunch of grown Men(big boys with toys) discussing the nuances of funnels.

We are a bunch of OCD individuals. A 12 step meeting is nearby.

I was waiting for "Buy a Dillon":D

horseman1
June 11, 2013, 03:08 PM
Speaking of the 12 step program:

Now, before we start, I would like to make sure that everyone understands that I do not condone the use of a whiskey flask while reloading....

But, the stainless steel funnel previously used to fill the whiskey flask has been re-purposed for use in filling .223 and it fits perfectly. It might be a Jack Daniels brand, not sure.

788Ham
June 12, 2013, 12:31 PM
Back in '69 when I started gathering all my reloading items, I bought an "Every-size fits" funnel for $2.00, still using it today, has never failed a round yet. Whats the big deal about a few kernels of powder? Sounds like a 12 Step meeting might be needed alright!

dirtykid
June 12, 2013, 12:46 PM
Back in '69 when I started gathering all my reloading items, I bought an "Every-size fits" funnel for $2.00, still using it today, has never failed a round yet. Whats the big deal about a few kernels of powder? Sounds like a 12 Step meeting might be needed alright!


I with him, The only time I have spilled ANY powder is when I am getting tired and not paying attention and don't manage to hold the funnel neck square with the case neck,,,, Sheeez, I thought I was ocd....

DeadFlies
June 12, 2013, 07:46 PM
My wife works in a lab so she swiped me a few small plastic funnels with tapered ends. Trimmed to the correct diameter, they work great.

floydster
June 12, 2013, 07:59 PM
I have a Herters funnel i have been using for 60 years, from 222 to 45-70, if you are having trouble with a funnel---get out of reloading!!!!!!!!! Not to believe.:fire:

ridgerunner1965
June 12, 2013, 08:39 PM
huh. didnt know there were caliber specific funnels.ive used the same plastic funnel for 22 to 45 cals for years.seems to work fine tho and doesnt spill any powder.

Kevin Rohrer
June 14, 2013, 08:05 AM
They sell both their own designs (the brass ones on the upper left of the pic) and those pink ones made by MTM on the right. The caliber specific inserts are below (for the brass) and to the left for the MTM's.

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0710.jpg

rondog
June 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
Regular old Lee red plastic funnel works great for me, don't see what the fuss is.

witchhunter
June 22, 2013, 11:35 PM
We all have different ways of charging cases. I love the saturn funnels because I set the funnel on top of the case and run the measure the I move to the next one by sliding the loading block. No need to hold it square....also try your RCBS funnel on a .204 or a .17 Remington!! I have em for all calibers.

GLOOB
June 24, 2013, 02:38 PM
I'm sure plenty of people will do fine with a one-size-fits-all. It depends on how you load, and what powder. For stick powders, have at it. Anything will do.

I rarely use a funnel anymore, but I do use a custom drop tube on my measure - using a modified 223 case as previously described. With my current process, I don't hold each case to be able to feel when it's perfectly centered and leveled, nor do I have room or desire to stop and tap each neck to get those last few kernels to drop off the case mouth. Yet, I can load a block of 50 223 cases pretty darn fast and without ever losing a single kernel of H335. This was simply not possible with the regular "inverted funnel" drop tube on the measure. Heck, even doing them one-at-a-time, by hand, I'd have the occasional oops where the case felt like it was tight on the drop tube, but turned out it was slightly tilted or offcenter.

http://s688.photobucket.com/user/gloob27x/media/SAM_0213.mp4.html
Yes, those are all filled, perfectly. Nope, not a kernel was lost.

On >25 caliber cases, my drop tube is even faster and easier. That's the other thing about the inverted funnel design of a one-size-fits-all funnel. For what it is, it works OK on 22 cal and smaller cases. But on all the bigger cases, it's an unnecessary compromise. Plenty of us don't reload anything smaller than 223.

Back when I was loading my rifle cases with a funnel on a loading block, there was another small problem with the Saturn funnel. If I accidentally double loaded a case in the middle of the block to overflowing, there was no way to reach in and lift the darn case out without removing the funnel and letting a mountain of powder spill. (My loading blocks are too small, I suppose). Of course, that only happens once or twice before it's burned into your head. :)

Mohave-Tec
June 24, 2013, 08:40 PM
I'm the OP. I bought the Satern funnel. It is a huge improvement over the stock RCBS funnel but I've not loaded anything with it yet. No matter. I'm pretty clever. I will make improvements as required.
BTW, I like your funnel. I may go that way for H335.

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