Bloomberg sets up phone number to call NV gov office to vote on gun control, let's


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thelaststand
June 9, 2013, 10:53 AM
Turn it against him

The govenor of Nevada setup a phone number to be called to vote on whether he should sign the gun control bill or not. Bloomberg setup a phone number so out of state anti gunners can call in and appear to be in state.

I copied this from ar15.com
"MAIG set up an out of state hotline for their cronies to make calls look like they are coming from Nevada 888-966-9224 wait till they get you through and select option 2"

Let's call and use this against them. Select 2

Also call direct to this number to vote: 775-684-5670

Mod Note: See Activism thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=718872&p=8965826#post8965826) for more details on this mandatory background check bill.

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Deus Machina
June 9, 2013, 11:18 AM
And what's option 2?
I'm betting if there's an automated system to send votes, any option to not sign the bill just drops the connection.

thelaststand
June 9, 2013, 11:59 AM
It's a vote so it will drop the connection. Option 2 is the veto.

medalguy
June 9, 2013, 12:03 PM
Done. Option 1 supports the bill, option 2 opposes it. Hit it!

Queen_of_Thunder
June 9, 2013, 12:09 PM
Better yet call these numbers


Las Vegas Chamber of Commerence 702-641-5822

Las VegasTourism 702-641-5822

Tell them that your future visits to their fair city is totally dependent on what the governor does. Also point out that those in the gun hobby have the discretionary income to spend in their town.

03fatboy
June 9, 2013, 12:15 PM
Just voted

Byrd666
June 9, 2013, 12:22 PM
done

thelaststand
June 9, 2013, 03:43 PM
The state bill that bans private sales

DPris
June 9, 2013, 04:00 PM
HSO,
Thanks, that makes more sense.
Denis

hso
June 9, 2013, 05:00 PM
The great thing about MAIG and Bloomberg setting these toll free numbers up is that we can use them to oppose him and the other Antis. Even better is that we're far more active in opposing Antis than they can get people to take any action against us.

Vern Humphrey
June 9, 2013, 05:05 PM
Done. Any idea how the vote is running?

hso
June 9, 2013, 05:20 PM
It isn't actually a "vote" or "poll". NV is just counting how many people call in supporting the bill by "pressing 1" and how many are opposing it by "pressing 2". Supposedly the Governor of NV will take into consideration the count for each in making a decision.

Bruno2
June 9, 2013, 05:29 PM
So we want option #2 right?

Carl N. Brown
June 9, 2013, 05:33 PM
Even better is that we're far more active in opposing Antis than they can get people to take any action against us.

I recall there was a poll that people who support gun rights are more active than people who support gun control.

PEW Research Center Poll May 1-5 2013

GR gun rights supporters v GC gun control supporters

I would not vote for a candidate who disagrees with me on gun policy even if they agree with me on other issues:
41% GR gun rights supporters
31% GC gun control supporters

I have contributed money to an organisation that takes my position on gun rights/gun control:
12% GR gun rights supporters
3% GC gun control supporters

I have contacted a public official to express my position on gun policy
11% GR gun rights supporters
9% GC gun control supporters

vkeith
June 9, 2013, 06:26 PM
Done.

Bloomberg has set up a type of phone relay that allows the user to call into the system and appear to be in state. After hearing the announcement, the call is transferred to the governor's office poll lines, and so it appears that the call is coming from in state, since it is relayed through local phone lines.

The great thing about what Bloomberg is doing is that it can be turned against them if enough people vote "no" (option 2), and the Bloomberg folks can't do anything about it because they lose control of the call once they have transferred it to the governor's office phone system. The poll itself is administered by the governor's office so the Bloomberg folks can't drop "no" votes.

I would also think that multiple calls could be made to further exploit the weakness in Bloomberg's attempt to manipulate results.

CharlieDeltaJuliet
June 9, 2013, 08:20 PM
Done.... Thanks for posting. We all need to do this just for the support of our brothers and sisters in Nevada.

4D5
June 9, 2013, 11:07 PM
Seems there's no restriction on how many times Dumberg number is used to register #2, at least up to five times anyway :D

And one to the governors number for good measure :)


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Bruno2
June 9, 2013, 11:41 PM
I voted a few times.;)

Ignition Override
June 10, 2013, 01:28 AM
Bruno2: Same here.

You guys/gals are sure that multiple calls from a number outside NV are not differentiated or excluded?:scrutiny:
I voted over ten times, just to help the Real citizens of Nevada.

Deus Machina
June 10, 2013, 01:43 AM
Wait, so this mayor and/or organization set up a phone system that forwards your number through another system, with the intent to hide your true location and affect a voting decision.

I think I've heard something about this before. There's a name for it. Hold on, it's coming to me...
Oh, yeah.
Fraud.

vkeith
June 10, 2013, 01:56 AM
Bruno2: Same here.
Do multiple calls register as different people?

Does their telephone survey differentiate between calls from Nevada, and those from other states?:scrutiny:

Chances are that multiple votes count multiple times, but it depends on how good the governor's office phone/polling system is. If it's a good one, then it will see the caller ID as coming from the same group of phone numbers and eventually discount those calls. If it's a not-so-good system, then it probably can only differentiate between in-state and out-of-state calls.

However, if MAIG's phone system is really good, and their service carrier (phone company) lets them, they could produce and send a different caller ID number for each call.

The Bloomberg lines were set up to fool the NV governor's office into thinking that the calls are coming from in state, which means MAIG is cheating. Imagine that?

Note: Anyone calling the direct number (NV area code) from out of state is pretty much guaranteed that their vote will not count because if the calls are tracked by caller ID then the pollsters will know the votes were cast out of state. The 800 number provided gets around this by transferring out of state calls to phone lines that show in-state numbers on caller ID.

Thelaststand, I sure would appreciate a link to the article you mentioned at ar15.com, and if anyone has a link to the MAIG page that discusses this campaign, that would be appreciated, also.

DeepSouth
June 10, 2013, 01:59 AM
It's surprising how good it felt to vote on that.......... I think I'll do it again. :D

This is gonna backfire on him BAD.

Proinsias
June 10, 2013, 02:05 AM
Las Vegas? Why? Our governor does not live in Las Vegas. He lives more than 400 miles from there... It's the biggest city, but I think the convincing would go better in Reno/rural areas, where we aren't forced to register.

I have no big sense about how Sandoval feels, except that I hope he does know that gun control would be political suicide in some way. He knows how his state feels...

If this thing is true, very scuzzy of Bloomberg. Not surprising, but kind of messed up.

Twiki357
June 10, 2013, 02:27 AM
Yes... Vote many times. It's a double wammy for Bloomberg. A vote against the background check bill AND it runs up MAIG's phone bill.

Of course, you know, those toll free numbers record the callers phone number so expect calls from MAIG in the future...... That could be entertaining. :)

vkeith
June 10, 2013, 02:55 AM
Las Vegas? Why? Our governor does not live in Las Vegas. He lives more than 400 miles from there... It's the biggest city, but I think the convincing would go better in Reno/rural areas, where we aren't forced to register.

I have no big sense about how Sandoval feels, except that I hope he does know that gun control would be political suicide in some way. He knows how his state feels...

If this thing is true, very scuzzy of Bloomberg. Not surprising, but kind of messed up.

But, Gov. Sandoval does have an office in Las Vegas.

Call the 800 number and you will hear a recording that tells you to vote to support SB 221 by pressing 1, and to stay on the line while your call is transferred to the governor's poll line. You will then be transferred to the state-wide poll line.

Not only is it scuzzy, but it is also cheating, and, as pointed out by Deus Machina, fraud.

Ignition Override
June 10, 2013, 03:08 AM
Are you guys saying that the listed 775 area number is a toll-free, or it connected somehow?

My impression was that toll-free numbers are usually 800.

Sgt_R
June 10, 2013, 06:51 AM
Vote early, vote often!

R

RLTW
June 10, 2013, 07:25 AM
Voted from a local number.

M2 Carbine
June 10, 2013, 10:41 AM
I would like to know what the count is.:)

hokiemojo
June 10, 2013, 11:12 AM
I wonder if autodialers will play a role in the results (in either direction).

Ryanxia
June 10, 2013, 12:03 PM
Did it!

backbencher
June 10, 2013, 12:11 PM
Done from Kuwait via Skype.

foghornl
June 10, 2013, 12:39 PM
I voted following the advice of Chicago's Emperor "DICK" Daley the 1st...


Vote Early...Vote Often.

Claude Clay
June 10, 2013, 02:31 PM
i did *67 and than the 800# to avoid posible call backs as Twiki357 mentions.

Manco
June 10, 2013, 03:32 PM
I voted a few times.;)

I was going to count how many times I voted, but I'm not sure where I was when I fell asleep. Man, am I tired today! :o

Deep Fried
June 10, 2013, 05:20 PM
I think I found something to do when I can't sleep at night :)

c4v3man
June 10, 2013, 05:24 PM
Sandoval said he'd veto the bill a week or so ago. Regardless of how this ridiculous phone poll ends up, he needs to stick to his earlier convictions or there will be hell to pay. 2014 is not that far away, and we're watching...

vkeith
June 10, 2013, 08:40 PM
Are you guys saying that the listed 775 area number is a toll-free, or it connected somehow?

My impression was that toll-free numbers are always 800, but frankly I'm lost in this high tech age.

No. The only valid toll-free numbers actually in use at this time are 800, 888, 877, 866, and 855.

The 775 number is a long distance call to the Las Vegas area code.

The 800 number for the NV poll on SB 221 is:


888-966-9224

Press 1 to support background checks, or press 2 to indicate you do not support background checks as proposed by SB 221.

creitzel
June 10, 2013, 08:43 PM
I got about 10 no votes in before it stopped working for me. I'll call it some more later. Awfully nice of mayor bloomberg to provide this service for us. :evil:

Hyrulejedi86
June 10, 2013, 08:54 PM
Done option 2 chosen

Sent from my DROID RAZR

Johannes_Paulsen
June 10, 2013, 09:18 PM
Don't forget...block caller ID before calling. :-)

Quick Shot xMLx
June 11, 2013, 12:38 AM
This is what this country has come to, a governor using a poll to decide if he's going to rape the Constitution or not. You guys in NV need to throw this bum in prison.

DeepSouth
June 11, 2013, 06:43 AM
I knew that I knew that name.. Then it hit me, Johnny Cash, Folsom prison blues, track 8. Yeah, I know I listen to entirely to much Johnny Cash.

Anyway, voted again. I really appreciate Mr. Boobberg........ well maybe not.

Johannes_Paulsen
June 11, 2013, 07:53 AM
5 ways to block caller ID:

http://www.wikihow.com/Block-Caller-ID

Johannes_Paulsen
June 11, 2013, 08:09 AM
@DeepSouth: I thought of this guy. Much more inspiring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arturo_Sandoval

FROGO207
June 11, 2013, 09:08 PM
Done a few times.:D And some more.:cool:

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