Smith & Wesson 39-2


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brbdwyr
June 13, 2013, 01:45 PM
To fire or not to fire? Purchased from the original owner who claims it to be unfired. After close inspection, I don't doubt him.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55591024x768.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55611024x768.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55641024x768.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55621024x768.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55651024x768.jpg

So....I picked up this classic Roy's Original Pancake to go with it.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55661024x768.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55671024x768.jpg

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returningfire
June 13, 2013, 01:52 PM
Depends on you. Are you a collector or a shooter?
If a collector or wish to keep it as an investment, don't fire it.
If you are a shooter, fire away. You won't be disappointed with it's performance, and she is a beauty. Good score.

7.62 Nato
June 13, 2013, 03:00 PM
Shoot it.

FM12
June 13, 2013, 08:43 PM
It's a used gun regardless. Shoot, enjoy, repeat.

SharpsDressedMan
June 13, 2013, 09:45 PM
Ask yourself, are you going to feel more warm and fuzzy if you keep it in a safe for life, die, and let someone else be the curator, or would you enjoy it more if you lived only once, and carried it often, if not only to annoy the collectors?

brbdwyr
June 13, 2013, 10:12 PM
Ask yourself, are you going to feel more warm and fuzzy if you keep it in a safe for life, die, and let someone else be the curator, or would you enjoy it more if you lived only once, and carried it often, if not only to annoy the collectors?

Well......I did buy that holster....:cool:

whatnickname
June 13, 2013, 10:44 PM
I say shoot the damn thing! They're great guns...not all that valuable. Putting a few rounds through it isn't going to hurt it!

brbdwyr
June 13, 2013, 10:52 PM
They're great guns...not all that valuable.

I guess I'd ask you to define value. To a poor working slob like me, couple hundred bucks is a lot of money.

rswartsell
June 13, 2013, 10:55 PM
Box and papers?

vkeith
June 13, 2013, 11:00 PM
Nice! If it were mine, I'd shoot it, but then, again, mine has 26 years worth of shooting enjoyment logged. They're great handling and shooting pistols. It would be a shame to not personally discover that for yourself.

brbdwyr
June 13, 2013, 11:01 PM
Box and papers?

Yes, and Jay Scott pearl grips in their original box, too.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/SW%2039-2/DSCF55461024x768.jpg

rswartsell
June 14, 2013, 12:47 AM
Well,

I am personally a "choot-em 'lizbeth" kind of guy, I don't own anything I won't shoot. However, if you are ever a "collector" kind of guy looking toward resale value, that would be a "collector" piece for sure. The first round you fire will cost way more than just the cartridge.

You can indeed find shooter grade examples if so inclined. Bust that cherry and there is no going back.

For your consideration.

JellyJar
June 14, 2013, 01:20 AM
Is that gold plating? If so then don't even use the holster because gold is so soft a metal it will quickly wear off.

If not its up to you.

bannockburn
June 14, 2013, 06:38 AM
brbdwyr

It sure is pretty looking, especially with those vintage Jay Scott grips, but I'm also with those who advocate shooting it. I don't believe in safe queens or keeping a gun "minty" fresh.

brbdwyr
June 14, 2013, 08:14 AM
The first round you fire will cost way more than just the cartridge

How much will I decrease the value? Is it sustantial? Could you give me some numbers as to the value as it is, and what it may be worth if I do run a box of shells thru it?

Are those pearl grips worth anything? The original box says Jay Scott was a designer for Colt, and they were $9.95 in 1976.

SharpsDressedMan
June 14, 2013, 06:12 PM
Ah, I have a story about a S&W 39-2 nickel with J Scott ivory grips. I was dating a girl back in 1978 whose father had a beautiful Colt Diamondback 2 1/2" nickel .38 with pearlite grips, and the dad asked me to find his daughter a nice gun similar, as she really liked his gun and wanted something like it. I suggested a nickeled 39, which we found and bought, but could not get the pearlite grips anywhere at the time. I did find the synthetic ivory, and the pistol still looked darn good. This girl was something else. When she unwrapped the gun, she insisted that I show here how to disassemble and reassemble it for cleaning. She sat on the floor and did it both ways about 7-8 times, until she had it by herself. She was INTO it! Never met another girl who took to the whole enchilada; some like to shoot, but none cared about cleaning or knowing the gun. The girl is still an old friend, and still a force to be reckoned with.

rswartsell
June 14, 2013, 06:51 PM
As the saying goes, anything is only worth what you can get someone to pay for it. Gun values are in a state of more rapid change than normal due to current events and political considerations. The best answers to the questions posed come from watching gun auctions to see what similar examples are actually selling for, not just what someone asks.

To get this started;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=347716589

Not sold yet and also not advertised as "unfired", often truly unfired NIB (new in the box) will command say a 10% premium over LNIB (like new in the box)

and;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=347449120

Nickel will generally bring more than blue. Hope this helps.

Once again, I personally would keep and shoot (and be damned pleased about it). You should make a fully informed decision as a benefit of your spanking new THR membership. In any event it is a beautiful example of what I and many informed others feel is a highly underrated handgun. Underrated handguns have a habit of suddenly "catching fire" or being discovered and inflating in value rapidly. Will yours? No-one truly knows, but there is no doubt that if it does the unfired examples will garner the largest increase in value. This is one school of thought that produces "safe queens" and the people that own them are capable of rational thought too. You should hope that the Smith experts will chime in with such details as which box, the blue box pictured in the auction or your silver box is actually "correct" and what value to assign to the Jay Scotts. I know they are not cheap.

Regards

brbdwyr
June 14, 2013, 07:05 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=347716589

Wow, that sure is nice. And wow, 799. Just wow.

G'dale Mike
June 14, 2013, 07:57 PM
Sorry, but it's a beaut! I would keep it as is. U can always find another 39 to plink with. For me, the "being unfired" would be one of the major reasons to have made the purchase. Once the trigger is pulled, its like every other 39 out there, as it sits now, it is unique. It's like going back 40-50 years in a time capsule and being able to bring something to the present time. But thats just me and my type of O.C. Personality

BigG
June 14, 2013, 08:25 PM
Keep it unfired but lose the holster. That will dick it up pretty quickly.

brbdwyr
June 14, 2013, 10:30 PM
Keep it unfired but lose the holster. That will dick it up pretty quickly.

Do you mean Dont Use the holster or Dont Store It In the holster? Will it take the finish off?

rswartsell
June 14, 2013, 10:43 PM
Holstering any handgun with any holster will abrade the finish and the caliber (i.e. category, class, status as NIB) that your piece currently resides in will not benefit by it, instead it will lose that status completely. If you elect "safe queen", lose the holster. Not literally, just don't carry, store or in any way mar the finish by using the holster.

On the other hand, if you go practical, damn the torpedos-full speed ahead, looks like a darned good choice for leather to me.

smalls
June 14, 2013, 11:20 PM
That gun is way too crisp. Needs a few thousand rounds through it, then it'll look nice ;)

Liberty1776
June 14, 2013, 11:29 PM
I'd sell everything and buy a shooter 39-2 and a big pile o' ammo... I love both of mine - they're sweet guns. (I had to get one with a pierced hammer, and one without...)

rswartsell
June 14, 2013, 11:38 PM
Just as a counter-thought about "highly underrated" handguns. Some of us want to use the best designed and executed handguns that we can afford. That should also be a part of your consideration. Do you actually use handguns such as this 39?

If so the counter view is that you got a brand new one at less than it's true worth might be, and can have a lifetime of constructive use for what some others may soon be paying more to experience (or if they also go "safe queen" no-one actually gets what they are made to provide).

You must ask why you own handguns, is this the "it" gun for your purpose? Do you value investment speculation more? Truth told, guns like many potential investments are "iffy" at best and collector grade guns are a lousy ways to make money, good ways to provide for personal defense and a helluva lot of fun if used.

My case and opinions are now fully presented.

brbdwyr
June 15, 2013, 06:58 AM
Just as a counter-thought about "highly underrated" handguns. Some of us want to use the best designed and executed handguns that we can afford. That should also be a part of your consideration. Do you actually use handguns such as this 39?

If so the counter view is that you got a brand new one at less than it's true worth might be, and can have a lifetime of constructive use for what some others may soon be paying more to experience (or if they also go "safe queen" no-one actually gets what they are made to provide).

You must ask why you own handguns, is this the "it" gun for your purpose? Do you value investment speculation more? Truth told, guns like many potential investments are "iffy" at best and collector grade guns are a lousy ways to make money, good ways to provide for personal defense and a helluva lot of fun if used.

My case and opinions are now fully presented.

Valid points, and your opinion is appreciated. Let me back up and give you a bit of history about me:
Just a normal guy that likes to shoot. I have a fair assortment of lower-end shooters with a wide variety of use. My edc is an SR9c. Love it for what it is designed for - compact carry and defense. The stainless and poly take a beating, and I don't cry when it gets bumped around.

Ergonomics are my first factor in a handgun. If it doesn't fit my hand, I see no use is keeping it around. I've parted ways with many fine handguns that had a lot of value (by my standards), but didn't get used because they were awkward to use. So introduce my buddy's 5904 - beat up, scratched and dented. But I liked the looks and the feel, but that double stack was big for me. But ohhhh, it shot soooo good. So after arguing with myself about the "need" (or not) for a double stack, I started looking for a 39-series. I wanted a blued, beat up, scratched and dented model. I found this one locally, and at a price that should have reflected the model I was looking for. So naturally, I had to buy it.

I know I can sell it and make a few bucks, but the reality is that I want to shoot the heck out of it. And, I'll never get another one like this for what I paid. It won't be an edc, more of a paper poker and shelf sitter. And I'm ok with that. My concern was mainly how much of a financial hit would I take if I shot it, and I'm beginning to believe the pleasure of shooting it will far outweigh any loss that I may incur by doing so.

I'll keep my eyes open for that blued, scratched and beat one. And I have the holster ready for it!

Thanks fellas, hope you enjoyed the pics.

HexHead
June 15, 2013, 07:43 AM
I'm sure it was test fired at the factory, so "unfired" is a myth.

cwl1862
June 15, 2013, 10:46 AM
Shoot your 39 and enjoy it! I have a 39-2 that is like new and a 6906 also like new but they both get range time, the 6906 even gets some holster time now and again. Me personally I don't own safe queens, life is too short not to enjoy what I have, and I enjoy shooting! My only problem of late is ammo and or reloading components! Hard to shoot without the things that go boom!

skoro
June 15, 2013, 12:55 PM
the reality is that I want to shoot the heck out of it.

That's exactly what it was made for.

Sure is purty!

I can't resist shooting each and every firearm I have. But then, I'm an accumulator, not a collector. It's yours to do with as you please. But I know I'd be kicking myself if I had one like it and let it go, even at a profit. They aren't made any more and you won't ever find a nicer one.

Smith357
June 16, 2013, 08:08 PM
Pristine collector grade M39s and going up in value, it's getting down right stupid. Since you have the box and papers I would save it and get a good $350 shooter grade 39 to enjoy.

orionengnr
June 16, 2013, 09:20 PM
Consider "collectible" items, like mid-year Corvettes or other late 60's-early 70's musclecars, or motorcycles of an equivalent vintage.

Not only are they only new once, but people pay outrageous sums to "restore" them to "like-new" condition. At that, they are never worth what an "original" one is.

And anything composed of so many parts (many of which are plastic, rubber and other unstable materials) degrade every year just from sitting. Belts, hoses, wiper blades and tires dry-rot. Wiring hardens. VOCs evaporate from paint...interior parts lose their suppleness...steel, iron and aluminum try to return to their origins...even in a climate-controlled environment.

Your M39 is in pristine condition, and has remained so for many years. All it will take to maintain that condition is a wipe-down once in a while. I might consider a coat of wax on the grips, especially the unfinished back sides.

Look at the top of that slide. How many more remain in that pristine state? Certainly very, very few. Maybe none.

I would buy a "beater" and enjoy shooting it. And keep that pristine M39 and...enjoy it, in an entirely different way. :)

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