Sound off Hi-Point fans!


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whatnickname
June 13, 2013, 10:45 PM
Back in the day there were Air Stream only RV parks...you couldn't stay there unless you had an Air Stream RV. We have matches where the 1911 is the order of the day. Then let's not forget cowboy action shooting. Pretty much like a "Trick or Treat" event with guns! I say we have special matches for Hi-Point pistols only with special recognition for the Hi-Point that had the prettiest paint job or the fanciest grips. Then we could have special rapid fire accuracy events starting at say 1000 meters. Special prizes for the most innovative use of a Hi-Point like hammering nails, use as a boat anchor etc. Then we could cap it all off by holding special classes for customization. Perhaps we could get folks like Gary Reeder or Doug Turnbull to turn out some models with case hardened finishes and class A engraving. We need to give the Hi-Point the recognition it deserves so lets hear it from you dyed in the wool Hi-Point fans!!!

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ThePunisher'sArmory
June 13, 2013, 10:50 PM
Well if you held a match with them that would be one way for everyone to practice their failure drills :neener:

MedWheeler
June 13, 2013, 11:06 PM
^^ Hi-Points are known for their butt-ugly appearances, bulk, and price points. One thing they are not known for is failures.

wgaynor
June 13, 2013, 11:10 PM
Wow! This thread is going to be entertaining.

TarDevil
June 13, 2013, 11:15 PM
^^ Hi-Points are known for their butt-ugly appearances, bulk, and price points. One thing they are not known for is failures.
True dat.

But blowed if I'd drop any coin on a custom job.

whatnickname
June 13, 2013, 11:16 PM
Do ya think?

tarosean
June 14, 2013, 02:50 AM
Turnbull to turn out some models with case hardened finishes and class A engraving.

wouldnt that melt the plastic... :evil:

whatnickname
June 14, 2013, 03:50 AM
To that I say: A melted Hi-Point is a better Hi-Point!

frankenstein406
June 14, 2013, 04:08 AM
The vids where they jam the bolts in the barrel are impressive. I want a carbine once they come down in price.

ku4hx
June 14, 2013, 05:48 AM
I don't own one and I have no plans to buy one simply because I do happen to value aesthetics a bit. As to them being butt-ugly, well ... my most favorite pet over the years was described in exactly that same way, one butt-ugly dog. I miss that dog. You should never love anything that can't love you back, and I loved that dog.

I have a Marine buddy (no such thing as an ex-Marine) and he recently bought a Hi-Point and he really likes it. And he knows his stuff. I told him I was developing a barrel insertion that would allow him to use it as a steady platform for a semi portable drill. He laughed a little and I should send him a prototype to test. I'm still working on but I'm having a problem with rate and direction of drill twist. Battery pack issue has been solved. On the spec sheet I call it the "electro mag".

Carl N. Brown
June 14, 2013, 06:17 AM
It would be interesting to have a 1000 round endurance contest (weighted by total stoppages and total rounds on target) between .380, 9mm and .45 HiPoint pistols and carbines on one side and the high price spreads (Walther, Beretta, S&W, Kimber, etc) on the other.

New In the Box, as delivered by factory to consumer. Off-the-shelf generic ammo divided among ?Remington, Federal and Winchester.

tarosean
June 14, 2013, 07:00 AM
^^^ If a HiPoint is all they can afford Im guessing a 1000rds is waaay out of the question..

DeadFlies
June 14, 2013, 08:42 AM
Wow! This thread is going to be entertaining.

Another Hi-Point bashing thread? Just what this forum needs! Yay!

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad147/MarkusRex/photo5.jpg (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/MarkusRex/media/photo5.jpg.html)

brbdwyr
June 14, 2013, 09:22 AM
Yeah, they suck

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/Hanksrainysky/DSCF4589.jpg

Granted, this is from the carbine, but I'd never want to own the handgun - I mean with their lack of dependabilty and accuracy and all....besides, with all that plastic, they're likely to feel like a Glock. :what:

Browns Fan
June 14, 2013, 09:52 AM
I would really like to know if any of you guys shoot yours in a competition, like IDPA or IPSEC. I think that would really be interesting to see!

marb4
June 14, 2013, 11:42 AM
I've always wondered what makes people feel better about their gun, car, house, etc. by bashing someone else's they feel is inferior.

For what its worth, I'm fortunate to own firearms from all over the price spectrum including a Hi Point 9mm. Close to 2000 rounds through it with never a failure of any kind. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another if that's all I could afford.

DeadFlies
June 14, 2013, 12:02 PM
I've always wondered what makes people feel better about their gun, car, house, etc. by bashing someone else's they feel is inferior.

For what its worth, I'm fortunate to own firearms from all over the price spectrum including a Hi Point 9mm. Close to 2000 rounds through it with never a failure of any kind. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another if that's all I could afford.

I'm constantly amazed that people will happily pay big $$$ for guns that need to be tuned and tweaked; then dismiss Hi-Points because they aren't World-Class pistols right out of the box.

They are boring firearms, though. Almost no add-ons, accessories, or modification to be had. About the only thing you can do with a Hi-Point is shoot it.

/endrant

MedWheeler
June 14, 2013, 12:07 PM
About the only thing you can do with a Hi-Point is shoot it.

Good enough for me! One day I will end up getting one, for pretty much no justifiable reason whatsoever..

Mooseman
June 14, 2013, 01:55 PM
I bought a 45 a few years ago on a whim and I like it a lot. It might not be the first gun I'd grab but if it was all I had I certainly wouldn't feel undergunned.

Zastava
June 14, 2013, 03:21 PM
impressive shooting DeadFlies :eek:, distance?

Reminded me of the famous quote from Gorski vijenac
"U rukama Mandušića Vuka, svaka će puška biti ubojita" (In the hands of Mandušić Vuk, every rifle will be deadly)

Jim K
June 14, 2013, 03:34 PM
With better sights and some trigger work, a Hi Point should do reasonably well in formal competition. The ones I have fired have been adequate in the accuracy department, and there is no problem with a lot areas that require extensive gunsmithing in the 1911, like bushing fit, linkdown time, etc. The weight (in .45) would be too much for most shooters, but some shooters would have no problem.

Jim

whatnickname
June 14, 2013, 04:13 PM
I hear Hi-Point is set to release their new "Quasimodo" line of pistols. They are going to market it with a new line of matching carbines called the "The Elephant Man".

whatnickname
June 14, 2013, 06:10 PM
Pictures to follow!!!

DeadFlies
June 14, 2013, 06:20 PM
impressive shooting DeadFlies :eek:, distance?

Reminded me of the famous quote from Gorski vijenac
"U rukama Mandušića Vuka, svaka će puška biti ubojita" (In the hands of Mandušić Vuk, every rifle will be deadly)

Thanks

My first outing with the new Hi-Point. About 12 yards.

mboe794
June 14, 2013, 06:23 PM
I've got a 9mm carbine. The newer TS version. I am quite pleased with it, other than it has a little bit of a clunky feel to it. I wouldn't mind having one of their hanguns too. I dont have a need, or a deep desire to go out and get one anytime soon. If I had money in my pocket and happened to come across one I might pick it up just for the novelty.

DeadFlies
June 14, 2013, 06:27 PM
I hear Hi-Point is set to release their new "Quasimodo" line of pistols. They are going to market it with a new line of matching carbines called the "The Elephant Man".

Isn't that somebody else's sig line?

rondog
June 14, 2013, 06:27 PM
Never fired a HP pistol, but I have two 9mm carbines and one .40 carbine, and they're so much fun something's just GOTTA be wrong with them!

marv
June 14, 2013, 06:37 PM
Had one. Surprisingly accurate, went bang every time, Ugly gun; right in there with my Glocks.

jdooner
June 14, 2013, 09:02 PM
Ahhh..HiPoint, the poor man's Glock...

Barry the Bear
June 14, 2013, 09:20 PM
Ughh.... hi-point

akv3g4n
June 14, 2013, 09:30 PM
I'll probably buy one soon just to support them because they are an Ohio firearms manufacturer. Have my sights on the c9. Never fired one but for the price I don't think you can go wrong.

I'm constantly amazed that people will happily pay big $$$ for guns that need to be tuned and tweaked; then dismiss Hi-Points because they aren't World-Class pistols right out of the box.

This is so true. Makes me laugh.

jrdolall
June 14, 2013, 09:36 PM
I have never handed my Hi Point 9mm to a person that didn't enjoy shooting it. Gun people will invariably look at me like I'm crazy and then fire off 9 rounds with no issues. The next look I get is more along the lines of what a great shooting gun it is. They aren't for everyone and I don't strap mine to my $100 belt in my $150 holster and carry it to the opera every weekend but of all the pistols I have, from $100 to $2000, it is THE most dependable semi I have ever owned. I like the sights and the trigger is okay, not great but okay. The only problem I ever had was with an after market mag that caused multiple FtFs and we all know that NEVER happens with a 1911.
The breakin period for my HiPoint was about 2 rounds. Performed perfectly right out of the box so I decided I didn't need a trigger job, new grips, Crimson Trace lasers or marksman sights.
It sure is ugly and is huge for a single stack 9mm. If I owned a Glock I would compare the two but I don't because THEY are butt ugly guns. I want my butt ugly guns to be made in 'merica.

Mauser lover
June 14, 2013, 09:51 PM
Of the last three hi-points I have used (also first three), two 9mm pistols, and one 9mm carbine, the pistols jammed probably every three to four shots (may have been ammo, but I don't think so), the trigger pull was awful, as was the trigger slap, and the carbine was amazing (once you get the magazines broken in). I don't own any, but would spring for the carbine at the right price.

Could also be used as a boat anchor, bludgeoning device, or anything else you want, but you can always send it in to the factory and they will fix it!

rondog
June 14, 2013, 10:18 PM
You guys gonna make me drag this story out again?

Bought my .40 carbine new and two boxes of ammo. Went to an indoor range, and this butch female RO had a good giggle that I had me a new HiPoint. She came to the range to watch me shoot it, I'm sure she thought she was going to see a cool explosion or something.

Hung the first target and ran it out, took the carbine out of the box, loaded it up and went to town. No sight adjustments or anything, just shot a whole box at one target.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20High%20Points/DSCN1763.jpg

Put up a second target, ran through the second box.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20High%20Points/DSCN1764.jpg

As I was packing up to leave, I could tell that Butch the RO was sorely disappointed.

Yeah, those HiPoints ain't nothin' but junk. After all, how many bullets did I waste that went through those big holes without touching paper?

USAF_Vet
June 14, 2013, 10:36 PM
Had two Hi Points, ended up selling them both. I kinda miss them both as well. The .45 pistol was accurate and reliable. The 9mm carbine was the same. The only issue I had with either one was a rust issue on the carbine receiver cover. Some matte black Rust-o-leum spray paint took care of that issue. Accurate to minute of paper plate at 100 yards.

But as I could afford better, I purchased better. Nothing wrong with a Hi Point. Good guns for a budget.

allin
June 15, 2013, 10:40 AM
I own and shoot a c9, great gun. I also have a number of other semi autos and revolvers, Smith, Taurus, XDM, etc. Hi Point bashers should shoot one before posting opinions. Mine shoots well and has never presented a problem. I have had issues with guns, most shooters do at some point in time, it is the case with most mechanical devices, guns included. Lighten up, Just because it is low priced and made differently doesn't make it bad. Get off the bashing bandwagon and go out shooting and have some fun. Just sayin.:)

jim243
June 15, 2013, 03:10 PM
We need to give the Hi-Point the recognition it deserves so lets hear it from you dyed in the wool Hi-Point fans!!!

Let's not do that or they will cost as much as a high end 1911. As far as failures, that person must be smoking something other than tobacco. Still can't get over how accurate they are.

Jim

But let's not leave out us 4095 TS owners. Put me in for the 1,000 meter shoot.

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DeadFlies
June 15, 2013, 03:27 PM
the pistols jammed probably every three to four shots (may have been ammo, but I don't think so),

Most Hi-Points malfunction because of three things: limp-writing, bumping the mag release button (I used to do this on my C9 all the time for the first 100 rounds or so) and improperly adjusted lips on the magazine.

It's easy to dismiss them as junk because they're inexpensive and shoddy performance is what one might expect. Indeed, it's what some people might want as a way of justifying the purchase of a more expensive firearm.

But it's also easy to stop limp-writing, make a conscious effort to keep ones thumb away from the mag release and adjust the feed lips until the gun runs properly.

Mauser lover
June 15, 2013, 09:12 PM
I don't think it was me limpwristing it, because there were three of us shooting these two guns, and all having the same problem. It could, however have been the mag lips, because (if I recall correctly) we were just using one magazine for both guns.

DeadFlies
June 15, 2013, 10:11 PM
It could, however have been the mag lips, because (if I recall correctly) we were just using one magazine for both guns.

More than likely. The mags are, from what i have read at th HP forums, the most common culprit.

jrdolall
June 15, 2013, 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser lover
It could, however have been the mag lips, because (if I recall correctly) we were just using one magazine for both guns.

More than likely. The mags are, from what i have read at th HP forums, the most common culprit.

As I mentioned in an earlier post this was the only problem I ever experienced with literally 1000s of rounds through my C9. The factory mag has been perfect using the cheapest ammo I can find from reloads to quality HPs but the extra mag I bought from an LGS caused multiple issues with every mag.

F-111 John
June 15, 2013, 11:07 PM
I say we have special matches for Hi-Point pistols only with special recognition for the Hi-Point that had the prettiest paint job or the fanciest grips.

Hi-Point: The only Pistol I can think of where you can add night sights and double it's value.

They're reliable, go bang when you ask it to, and are priced at what they really cost to make plus a little to the man for the effort. Not priced as high as 'the market will bear.'

Schwing
June 15, 2013, 11:16 PM
I wanted a 9mm Carbine about a year ago and just about bought a Beretta CX4. I had it in my hand when I saw the hi points $249 price tag. I had no intention of using the thing for anything other than plinking so I laid down the $249 for the hi point and spent the rest of the money I would have spent on the Beretta and bought a safe too.

I won't lie and say I was 100% satisfied with it out of the box. I had problems with it jamming and the slide getting stuck open but I sent it back to Hi point and they took care of it. I put a red dot sight on it and can shoot a 1" grouping from about 50 yards. it is by far the cheapest gun I have ever purchased but is surprisingly enjoyable to shoot.

I would, by no means, trust my life with it but I reach for it any time there are some soda cans that need some holes in them.

FIVETWOSEVEN
June 16, 2013, 12:29 AM
My only hands on experience with Hi Point was with the .40 S&W handgun. Jammed multiple times through numerous magazines. Then we put away the ammo that the owner brought which was steel cased and used my brass .40 S&W and the malfunctions stopped completely.

They work with the right ammo but after a few magazines, I went back to my XD40 and didn't shoot the Hi Point again.

If I owned a Glock I would compare the two but I don't because THEY are butt ugly guns. I want my butt ugly guns to be made in 'merica.

Like new Glocks?

Reefinmike
June 16, 2013, 12:56 AM
I'll add my own two shiny copper Lincoln coins. A couple years ago as I was just getting back into firearms, my second handgun was a Hipoint c9. It was big, ugly, a hair uglier than a glock, gave the walther ppq and beretta neo a run for their money and in the end, the neo and ppq prevailed as the winners for the ugliest gun known to man :) .

Anyways, done with the bashing aesthetics of other guns. The c9 had a jam within the first box. after this, It would jam about two times a mag. It would double feed and flip the round vertical, missing the chamber but resting on the top of the barrel. I played around with the feed lips a little bit at home, bent em til I thought I made em look right... I never took pliers to the range with me and patiently worked with the mag. I ended up selling it for $90. Had I known what I do now about everything firearms related in general, im sure I'd have her running like a champ.

HKGuns
June 16, 2013, 12:28 PM
On the surface the carbine targets look impressive, however, there is no mention of the distance. Since most indoor ranges max out at 25-50 yards, I'd expect those results from nearly any rifle at that distance. Heck, I could make a group like that with most of my pistols at my indoor range. At least one of the targets in this thread is noted as being at 50 yards, my bone stock Ruger 10/22 can do as well or better at 50 yards.

If it is a 100 yard indoor range, it is the exception and I take back my criticism.

No experience with Hi-Point so I have no dog in this fight.

foghornl
June 16, 2013, 12:29 PM
Don't own any Hi-points, but with my informal shooting group {We call ourselves The Cheap Galoots} I have fired most all of Hi-Points offerings, except the new .45Carbine.

Overall impressions: Pig-butt-stuck-in-a-mud-fence ugly, goes BANG! on request every time and puts the lead where you aim. Hi-Point will fix it Free, even if you are the 3rd/4th/5th etc owner.

Midwest
June 16, 2013, 12:45 PM
I have a HiPoint .45 acp pistol it shoots good and never jammed.

srtolly
June 16, 2013, 01:51 PM
I have the .40 s&w and the .45 pistols. The 40 has over 2000 rounds through it since HiPoint replaced the original mag which had some issues. Nice shooter and accurate to boot, shot the bull out of an 8" target at 10 yards last week, eats any ammo I feed it. Only 300 rounds through the .45, no failures and just as accurate. I had the 9mm and it was just as good a shooter as the other 2. Got offered $50 more than I paid for it so it left.

Onward Allusion
June 16, 2013, 01:59 PM
Has anyone who owns one noticed that the slide's paint job is pretty durable? It is powder coated paint, right? I've shot mine, wiped it down and it looks like new.

DeadFlies
June 16, 2013, 03:17 PM
Has anyone who owns one noticed that the slide's paint job is pretty durable? It is powder coated paint, right? I've shot mine, wiped it down and it looks like new.

The C9 i just got rid of had almost 3000 rounds through it. A simple wipe-down with a silicone cloth and it looked brand new again after every range session.

TennJed
June 17, 2013, 03:04 AM
I have read a lot of posts about the "ring of fire" guns where people really feel they are dangerous. Enough people claim these guns are ones they would not shoot out of safety. I have never really heard that about Hi-Points. They may be inexpensive but they do have a rep of being reliable and safe. That is A-OK in my book. Nothing wrong with being affordable.

Kiln
June 18, 2013, 04:26 AM
Hi Point gets very little respect from most but gets respect from people that have been so broke they couldn't afford anything more than a $150 gun.

If you've been there then you'll be thankful that you could buy a gun, period. If you haven't been there then you'll probably never actually understand.

Back in the day I was just glad I could get a Raven for $100 instead of saving up for a month in a bad neighborhood. If I'd known about Hi Point I would have rather had a 9mm for nightstand duty.

improperlyaged
June 18, 2013, 06:10 AM
I owned one, didn't expect much considering I payed 50 bucks for it. Couldn't make it jam, and I tried pretty hard.

clg114
June 19, 2013, 04:55 PM
I had a .45, until I gave it to my oldest son. I never had any kind of problems with it, nor does he. The problem is, it's big, heavy, ugly brick with a trigger. On the other hand , who in the industry has a better warranty?

aarondhgraham
June 19, 2013, 06:02 PM
I own a 995-TS carbine and I'm not ashamed to say so.

I have a group of buddies who all own carbines of some ilk or another,,,
Several Beretta's, several Kel-Tec's, lotsa AR style rifles,,,
I just wanted a toy so I could play with them,,,
And I didn't want to spend tons-o-cash,,,
So $239.00 later I had a carbine.

I bought 2,000 rounds of el-cheapo bulk 9mm FMJ,,,
Brunhilda performs just as well as their 6, 7, or $800 guns,,,
But she is definitely what I would call a beaten by the ugly stick gun.

I won't say it has never jammed,,,
But my buddies can't say that about their guns either

My Carbine performs just as well as their guns,,,
Just ten rounds at a time is all.

I spend less time cursing my carbine than any of my buddies,,,
One of them actually bought one "for his son to shoot",,,
I find it hilarious that he very often brings the gun,,,
But rarely ever brings his son to the range. :rolleyes:

Aarond

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Deltaboy
June 20, 2013, 01:27 PM
I have a HiPoint .45 acp pistol it shoots good and never jammed.
Same here mine is my recliner gun.

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