Stilletos Will Be The Next Ban! - Not What you Think!


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Tomcat47
June 14, 2013, 12:45 AM
Hope this fits in on THR ..... I think so!

So here is the Story: http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_23446139/woman-kills-boyfriend-shoe-after-night-at-bar?source=rss

So there we have the next ban is on its way .... They are after our assault rifles and the wifes six inch Stillettos will be next.... :( And as much as we love Ar-15's and women in six inch Stillettos... they obviously cause harm to people... :eek:

I bet Feinstien wears high heels along with her concealed carry gun!....:what:

Oh! wait it is the Tequila Infused anger that caused the human being to use the item as a weapon? I always ask why???? ... illogical people refuse to see that inanimate objects cannot commit a crime.

furthermore.... ANYTHING can become a weapon!

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Sam Cade
June 14, 2013, 12:55 AM
In all seriousness, I'd like to see the M.E's report on the decedent.

TimboKhan
June 14, 2013, 01:27 AM
My first thought was to close this thread for being off topic. But, it does kind of point out the potential lethality of everyday objects. Here's the thing: If we want to talk about self-defense using objects at hand, thats on topic and good to go. If it turns into a bunch of sexist jokes and dumb hyperbole, it's gonna get closed. Fair enough?

hso
June 14, 2013, 01:41 AM
I'm having a lot of trouble seeing this working out considering the way it started and the offhand attempt to toss in the "furthermore - ANYTHING can become a weapon" almost as a thin justification for the post.

BUT, as Timbo points out there is some shred of value in examining the use of everyday objects as weapons.

Sentryau2
June 14, 2013, 06:34 AM
seeing that reminds me of one thing a friend and teacher told me during training. Anything can be used to commit a murder if you go about it correctly. A belt swung hard enough will cause a depressed skull fracture, or can be wrapped around a neck. Misc objects are very dangerous if you have the right (or rather wrong) mind. A comment about heels tho, I always new they were dangerous, the scar on my foot can attest to that (tho I wasnt the one in heels :p )

Tho the oddest self defense tool I have heard of is a car antenna used by an eskrima practitioner when he was jumped. (that even sounds painful)

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JShirley
June 14, 2013, 06:38 AM
The car antenna was an old trick used in the inner city.

Officers'Wife
June 14, 2013, 08:05 AM
If you had ever slipped off a five inch heel you would know the things are killers!

OK, I'll be good. A couple of months ago we had a patient come into the ER that had been assaulted by a glass baby bottle. It had been thrown from a height of about 6 meters and struck the victim in the head then shattered. The assailant was released to the custody of her mother. Whether she will be tried as a juvenile or adult is uncertain. (Just kidding)

The Stiletto heel, the baby bottle, the broom handle... if the great white father starts banning everything that can be used as a weapon we will end up sitting naked on a dirt floor. I just hope they ban trees before they do C-Span. I would hate to miss the "we deserve to be safe" types arguing with the tree huggers.

hso
June 14, 2013, 10:04 AM
We're surrounded by potential defensive tools all the time so the question is do you take the time to look for them as you would for an exit in an unfamiliar place or do you have to have it pointed out to you ("The exits are at the front of the theater.").

kBob
June 14, 2013, 11:06 AM
Seems every women's defense article since the dawn of designer foot wear has featured a section on using heels as a weapon.

Mid 1970's guy that lived across the street from me was killed by a blow to the temple with a high heel. She and other guy then placed him in his truck and fired that thing up. Lovely folks......

-kBob

Zeke/PA
June 14, 2013, 08:41 PM
Actually, in Philadelphia there has been a rash of stabbings recently.
Think it might be because of the current ammo "shortage"?

hso
June 15, 2013, 12:49 AM
"shortage"

Probably not since criminals aren't expending rounds at the range, but ... ya never know.

Heck, even the stats from the DoJ indicate that more people are killed with impact and bladed weapons than rifles or shotguns. Not all of those are speciality weapons and I'd wager the majority of them aren't. People have been bludgeoned and stabbed/cut/chopped with many different things far longer than firearms have even been around.

When in a tight spot and you feel your life is threatened what's at hand may be all that is available and knowing how to spot, select, and use simple everyday items is an important defensive skill. Knowing what everyday items to carry with you and use is also important.

John's water bottles, my pens, doc's canes, flashlights, padlocks, umbrellas, ... all discussed before and used by some of us in tight spots to get out of them. As said, Mindset, Skillset, Toolset.

Deltaboy
June 15, 2013, 10:47 PM
I heard about getting hurt or killed by high heels from several LEO'S and ER Doctors.

Double_J
June 18, 2013, 09:46 PM
I know that a high heel hurts like the dickens when it is jabbed into your instep. I was playing the part of "test dummy" for a friend's female rape defense class, one of the ladies stomped on me and brought lots of tears to my eyes. I was also wearing a pair of heavy duty work boots, and thick socks to try to minimize the pain, it did NO GOOD. Anything and EVERYTHING can be used as a weapon/tool if the person has the mindset of survival. Like was stated above, mindset, skill set, tool set.

Swing
June 19, 2013, 03:27 PM
Ouch. What a way to go. ;)

19-3Ben
June 19, 2013, 09:01 PM
Just to point out some of the more obvious improvised weapons, we talk all the time on here about how a cane can be a very effective eskrima sticks, and that a small flashlight can make one heck of a kubaton in the right hands.

Weapons are all around us. Just sitting here on the couch, I have a cast iron lamp on the table next to me; potential club, and I have a any number of things, the computer included that could be thrown at an assailant if nothing more, just to distract him so that I can then rush and strike, or escape. Whichever is more likely to lead to my survival is fine with me!

Another basic one is that if you are knocked to the ground, grabbing a handful of dirt/sand/gravel and throwing it in an attacker's eyes has a remarkable ability to stun someone.

Back when i was taking karate, one of the stories I always loved about the grand master/founder was that one time he was jumped in a bar, and as the sooper-dooper-wiz-bang martial artist that he was... he grabbed a glass ketchup bottle and smacked the attacker upsides the head with it, thus promptly ending the attack.
Moral of the story- use whatever works! The weapon is your mind. What you have in your hand is merely the tool.

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