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Sentryau2
June 16, 2013, 01:15 AM
Ok I was wondering if someone could give me a website to order a set of brass knuckles "belt buckle" or even better steel that are a decent quality.

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rcmodel
June 16, 2013, 01:21 AM
No, I sure can't, and won't if I could.

That would just get you locked in the slammer faster then they can pull the Taser barbs out of your skin, and charge you with a felony.

Brass knuckles, and belt buckles that can be used as such, are against the law almost everywhere in the USA I am aware of.

rc

Dlowe167
June 16, 2013, 02:55 AM
Ya bad,but fun idea. Be cool for around the house,only place to wear it to,legally

hso
June 16, 2013, 08:50 AM
Advertising you are carrying knucks is a dumb idea. Wearing them out in the open is an invitation to getting into a confrontation which is also a dumb idea.

If you want some of the fancy "bling" non-functional knuckles buckles, that presents an aggressive combative posture that we can't condone.

4v50 Gary
June 16, 2013, 09:00 AM
While I have punched people, I never liked the idea of punching someone. Control holds means less force and doesn't look as bad. If I was that concerned about fighting, I'd carry a roll of nickels.

bikerdoc
June 16, 2013, 10:30 AM
Most states define them as prohibited.
Funny story, way back around 1980 something I responded to a call and Mr. knuklehead had a some had some brass knucles on.

I gazed over his shoulder and said," take him Tommy" There was no Tommy but when he turned it was easy to slam him into wall and cuff him. Those nucks turned a minor drunk charge into a felony.

Sam Cade
June 16, 2013, 10:37 AM
Brass knuckles, and belt buckles that can be used as such, are against the law almost everywhere in the USA I am aware of.


Perfectly legal in KY if carried openly. Maybe as ear rings :D

Perfectly legal carried concealed with our CCDW license and mentioned specifically as kosher in the legalese.


Knucks are subject to the same sort of "thug" stigmatization as switchblades but they remain viable and effective small impact weapons. As with every thing else, quality and utility will vary widely with many of the "novelty" knucks being unusable.

Fred Fuller
June 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
Good advice above.

Try one of these on your keys - http://comtechstinger.com/ - if, of course, it's legal where you live.

Rat Robb
June 16, 2013, 02:56 PM
A friend and I bought some at a tattoo convention years back. He had a cop stop him and looked over them (he was wearing it as intended, a belt buckle, at the time). The cop told him to make sure he kept them there and left us alone.

I open carry mine now :-)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/doveman/Tattoos/th_463782_2003993035525_1714602767_1012331_1140996223_o.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/doveman/media/Tattoos/463782_2003993035525_1714602767_1012331_1140996223_o.jpg.html)

-Robb

Sentryau2
June 16, 2013, 06:15 PM
Its legal to wear them as a belt buckle......never said I would carry them with me, I just want them. If I wanted a self defense weapon brass knuckles would be one of my last choices. Here in missouri its legal to own them just not to carry them.

hso
June 16, 2013, 07:37 PM
Then what's the point of having it as a belt buckle?

Check ebay for some crazy ones if you just want them for paper weights.

beatledog7
June 16, 2013, 07:51 PM
Perfectly legal in KY if carried openly.

I guess I'm missing something--when did "technically legal" start being the same as ethical and conscionable.

Sounds like inside the beltway talk.

Sam Cade
June 16, 2013, 08:19 PM
I guess I'm missing something--when did "technically legal" start being the same as ethical and conscionable.

Sounds like inside the beltway talk.

What the devil are you talking about?

beatledog7
June 16, 2013, 08:28 PM
Nothing. I apologize if I offended.

Sentryau2
June 16, 2013, 11:32 PM
Its legal to wear them as a belt buckle.....just nothing else.

hso
June 17, 2013, 08:03 AM
Just because it is "legal" doesn't make it practical or advisable.

Carl N. Brown
June 17, 2013, 09:38 AM
The state going armed statute bars going armed in public for offense (period) or for defense (without a handgun carry permit) and specifically lists weapons prohibited from public carry--including brass knuckles. A lot of "prohibited" weapons can be kept in the home for defense, or collected as curios, ornaments or keepsakes, but are prohibited from carry.

Brass knuckles simply have the aura of a black jack or other "weapon of the footpad or thief by night". While a knife or gun may be simply brandished to be effective in defense or offense, knucks or jacks usually have to be used. There is a gut reaction--embodied in many weapons laws--that sees knucks as offensive weapons without defensive use. You may call it prejudice, but it is hard to ignore since it is part of the law.

AJumbo
June 17, 2013, 11:24 PM
I saw a guy get seven kinds of stuffing kicked out of him because he thought he could get the buckle-knucks deployed in a timely manner. After the fight, the winning party pulled the knucks off the loser's belt and left them where the police would see them. Everything was sorted out in court, but it was along old road.

Officers'Wife
June 18, 2013, 07:14 AM
Years ago one of the local... guys. Had my uncle pour him a set of "knucks" out of aluminum then fit them as the grip of a huge knife. (a Buck IIRC) I suspect it is still in the property room of the sheriff's office.

4v50 Gary
June 18, 2013, 08:18 AM
Ajumbo - good point you made with your observation. The belt buckle wearer gave his opponent plenty of lag time while he fumbled to get his buckle. One well delivered punch or kick is all that's needed to disable one's opponent. Relying on weapons means two things: 1) The person knocked out didn't rely or train the brain first; 2) Weapons that take time to deploy can be trumped by a skilled assailant.

waterhouse
June 18, 2013, 11:10 AM
About a month ago I was in the back of a courtroom waiting to testify and the case in front of mine involved a prohibited weapons charge for a brass knuckles belt buckle.

That case got pushed back, so I don't know the outcome, but it seems like a lot of hassle. Be certain of the wording of your local laws.

saltydog452
June 18, 2013, 11:43 AM
In another place and time, 'belts' crafted by using automotive timing chains were occasionally visible.

salty

Sentryau2
June 18, 2013, 04:53 PM
I just want them as a novelty/paper weight. I've got a chain "necklace" with .5lb weights at each end if I wanted a weapon to use in a fight, if I did not mind the assault with a deadly weapon charge.

lemaymiami
June 19, 2013, 08:09 AM
A little practical "street advice" might be in order here. When I was a young cop I made one or two (probably more...) arrests for concealed weapons charges. If the item was anything other than a firearm (blackjack, dagger, "dirk" -whatever that is.. knucks -in any material, etc, etc....) the charge was purely a misdemeanor (here in Florida). If the item was a firearm, of course, a felony... Remember now at this point we're only talking possession concealed -not use. Anyone foolish enough to use any of the above (and not in necessary, pretty clear cut, self defense was looking at a felony (agg. assault for just threatening or trying to use one, aggravated battery if you did any injury with that particular weapon). Improvised weapons ( a rock in a sock, a stick, hammer, etc) got treated the same.....

Now for the important stuff... many times possession of a weapon (say during a traffic stop) was never acted upon... I'd advise them of the law and point out that it the item was not within their ready reach (I know, for young men , that would defeat the whole purpose...) then they'd never have the slightest problem -as long as they never attempted to use it unless they were in clear cut self defense mode. The trunk of the car was where I pointed them for that kind of "storage". Here's what you never told anyone on the street... If they were up to no good or were found in circumstances where an arrest was a maybe situation, having a weapon meant they ended up taking a ride downtown, period, even if no weapons charge was ever involved at all.

When my son was finally old enough to drive, and usually up for anything that any other fool thought was a good idea.... I carefully walked him through all of what I've just written. Not sure he listened but managed to grow up without an arrest record, and is now a young CG type...

beatledog7
June 19, 2013, 08:39 AM
My issue is with the "statement" wearing a set of brass knuckles as a belt buckle makes--the impression it gives...

"I'm a cocky tough guy who'd as soon punch you as look at you, so watch yourself when I'm around lest I have to go off on you!"

That's purely my impression, and if yours is different, so be it. I suppose some people might view OCing a handgun in the same way, but I do not. OCing has practical SD advantages; a brass knuckles belt buckle does not.

herrwalther
June 19, 2013, 01:51 PM
Class ring doubles as brass knuckles (and considered in several states as such) and a belt buckle that doubles as a dinner plate. No desire to combine them to make them non functional.

Swing
June 19, 2013, 02:26 PM
Just because it is "legal" doesn't make it practical or advisable.

Well said.

Wearing a brass knuckles is, at best, tacky, at worst something that will land you in the county jail. ;)

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