Its been a while, But need help with .45


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Nikoncanon
June 16, 2013, 03:07 PM
Hornady .45 HAP .451 185 grain bullets.
Cant find any load data what so ever. Not even in my reloading books please help.
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jonkit
June 16, 2013, 03:45 PM
It looks like the same as a xtp on hornadys site, just designed without the expansion. data for a 185gr xtp should work. What manual do you have? What powder do you plan on using?

Nikoncanon
June 16, 2013, 03:51 PM
Hornady 9th edition
As for powders I have
1.unique
2.powder pistol
2.imr sr 4756

jonkit
June 16, 2013, 04:01 PM
I have hornady 7th edition, only one listed is sr 4756. I'd use the data for the 185 gr. xtp. The Hap is modeled after the xtp minus the exposed lead and the cuts for expansion, It's more of a match bullet. Should be the same basic thing, as long as the weight is the same.

Nikoncanon
June 16, 2013, 04:10 PM
Should i invest in older hornady books? I will load about 5 rounds that way and post results. so sub this channel

rcmodel
June 16, 2013, 04:23 PM
Not necessary.

Use the 185 grain Hornady XTP data you have.

It will be fine.

Lyman #49 lists data for the 185 XTP as follows.
Unique - 4.8 Start - 7.8 MAX.
Power Pistol - 7.4 Start - 8.3 MAX.

Hodgdon lists 185 Hornady with SR-4756
7.4 Start - 8.2 MAX.

rc

bds
June 16, 2013, 06:39 PM
Hornady .45 HAP .451 185 grain bullets.
HAP stands for "Hornady Action Pistol" meant for action pistol matches like USPSA/IDPA and while the bullet is hollow point the nose profile is shaped for more reliable feeding and chambering in often tighter chamber match barrels.

As others suggested, I would reference the load data for Hornady XTP HP bullets as they would be seated to comparable seating depth.

This is from Hornady website - http://www.hornady.com/store/HAP-Hornady-Action-Pistol/
Modeled after the legendary XTP bullet design, HAP (Hornady Action Pistol) bullets are further refined into the perfect competition projectile. While XTP bullets use folds and a cannelure to aid in controlled expansion and terminal performance, we have eliminated these from HAP bullets leaving only a sleek and balanced projectile with a protected nose that aids in consistent and reliable feeding in autos.

BUILT FOR COMPETITION

Expansion isnít an issue in action pistol shooting, so we removed the expansion-aiding features like the skives and cannelure. The result is a bullet that delivers the accuracy its sleek appearance promises.

tyeo098
June 16, 2013, 09:32 PM
Using the load data for any jacketed 185gr bullet should work, and just make the OAL as long as it will fit in your mag and chamber correctly (plunk test).

Right? :uhoh:

EDIT: Link to database for 185gr bullets (lead and jacketed, so make sure its F/TMJ or JHP)
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=45%20ACP&Weight=185&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=

Nikoncanon
June 17, 2013, 12:59 AM
Finished Product
Pistol powder 7.5gr O.A.C is 1.213 but i went for 1.210

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murf
June 17, 2013, 04:27 AM
don't forget the plunk test.

murf

Nikoncanon
June 17, 2013, 09:33 AM
I dont always reload.........
But when I do........
I always plunk test.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdJLNox1hpk

tyeo098
June 17, 2013, 11:20 AM
I just like the noise it makes when it goes 'plunk'!

:D

Conservidave
June 17, 2013, 11:38 PM
is it just me or is the case mouth rolled down on the right side of that round?

maybe it's lighting or something but it looks out of kilter...:scrutiny:

Lj1941
June 18, 2013, 12:47 AM
I have shot a bunch of 45ACPs with Nosler bulk bullets loaded with 9 grains of Power Pistol.It is a snappy load but not excessivly so.I use Federal OF brass and Winchester LP primers. They are almost identical in appearance to the picture.They are reasonably accurate if I do my part.:evil:

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