Makarovs: Bulgarian vs. Polish


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SteelyDan
March 19, 2004, 01:43 AM
I probably need to get a Makarov. I'm taking my wife out to dinner tomorrow, and will try to explain this and another purchase I have planned. Assuming no serious resistance on her part, my choices seem to be the Polish or Bulgarian models. Any tips or suggestions between these two? Both are advertised as being pretty much unissued. Thanks.

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9x19
March 19, 2004, 01:47 AM
The Polish pistols are not Makarovs, but are chambered for the 9x18mm Makarov round.

Get the Bulgarian.

M2 Carbine
March 19, 2004, 02:51 AM
Dan,

I have 11 Makarovs and 3 Polish P-64s.
So you know I like them both.:)

Get the Makarov.
It's a fine all around gun.
Accurate, reliable, well made and cheap to buy and shoot.
It does everything well, except some people think it's a bit underpowered.
I don't carry one (except in the cars sometimes) because for about the same weight and size I can carry a Kimber 45.
But I would feel well armed if I did carry a Makarov.
It's fun to shoot and handles reloads well.


I like the P-64 for it's size, accuracy and reliability. (some have had trouble with the gun's safety)
Sometimes I'll carry the P-64 because of it's size.
It's not a comfortable gun to shoot because of the kick but it is fun to shoot. (just not 200 rounds at a time :) )

PCRCCW
March 19, 2004, 07:39 AM
Makarovs are stellar.......the Polish guns are a Walther/FEG copy. Not that thats a bad thing...but Id rather get an SMC series FEG if thats what you want.

The PM/Real Mak.......is a great little gun. Youll here about odd failures of this and that kind on rare occasions...but they are truly rare occasions.

Shoot well.

RUT
March 19, 2004, 07:39 AM
I guess my question would be why buy a P-64 when you could have a Bulgy??:confused:

Snowdog
March 19, 2004, 11:01 AM
Yes, get the Russian IJ-70.




You'd find more aftermarket goodies for a makarov

Whitey
March 19, 2004, 07:39 PM
Dan, I've been carrying the 1911 for close to twenty years. I just recently bought a Springfield XD-9 and I've replaced my 1911 primary gun with the XD. I've also replaced my BUG which was the Kel-Tec P-3AT with my Bulgarian Makarov.

To be honest with you, I'd feel just as comfortable using my Makarov as my carry gun. It's super accurate and very, very reliable. Buy one and enjoy it. You'll be happy you did.

SteelyDan
March 19, 2004, 11:16 PM
First, thanks for the education and the tips. My wife is right, I DON'T know everything. Still...

Second, I got the "geen light" for the Makarov at dinner tonight ("Yeah, sure, I just bought some bathing suits.") On some fundamental level it seems unfair that I felt compelled to ask first and she did not (which I pointed out), but who cares? One new Mak will soon be on the way. Outstanding!

Clean97GTI
March 20, 2004, 05:47 AM
I don't carry one (except in the cars sometimes) because for about the same weight and size I can carry a Kimber 45.

Yeah, but the Makarov is a more reliable gun. Why would you carry an inferior weapon. Good way to get yourself killed if you ask me.

Snowdog
March 20, 2004, 06:41 AM
Yeah, but the Makarov is a more reliable gun. Why would you carry an inferior weapon. Good way to get yourself killed if you ask me.

:rolleyes: Um, ok....

copycat
March 20, 2004, 08:15 PM
I have two a "Simson-Suhl" that's pretty much a safe queen, and an IJ-70 both are 9x18mm the IJ simply cannot be stopped probably have near 4000 rounds through it everything from 120gr hp to 90gr xtp without a single, not even one ever problem, no FTF, no FTE.

M2 Carbine
March 21, 2004, 02:56 AM
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I don't carry one (except in the cars sometimes) because for about the same weight and size I can carry a Kimber 45.
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"Clean97GTIquote:
Yeah, but the Makarov is a more reliable gun. Why would you carry an inferior weapon. Good way to get yourself killed if you ask me."


Everything is a trade off.

45ACP
or less powerful 9x18?

Kimber Tactical Ultra that's been 100% reliable
or Makarov that's been 100% reliable?

I have to go with the 45 because the 9x18 might be, as you say a "Good way to get yourself killed".

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