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EMT40SW
June 17, 2013, 11:27 PM
I'm looking for a strictly defensive knife to mount in my car as a last ditch life saver. I want it less than $75. I also want to perminantly mount the sheath with screws to the car. I also dont want the knife to fly out in an accident or hard stop but I have to balance this with easy access. I would love ideas on how to mount this, what knife, or a sheath maker that could make me a kydex or leather sheath for this purpose. Thank you in advance.:)

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Jlr2267
June 17, 2013, 11:56 PM
http://www.amazon.com/KA-BAR-Marine-Corps-Fighting-Straight/dp/B001H53Q6M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371527695&sr=8-1&keywords=kabar

Texan Scott
June 18, 2013, 12:09 AM
I might go for something smaller, flatter and less obtrusive.

Check out the Cold Steel "Secret Edge". It's flat, the sheath offers good retention, and it's inexpensive. If you ever (heaven forbid) have to turn it over as police evidence, you won't worry about getting it back.

I have one that I've carried on beaded chain knotted into and cleverly concealed behind a necktie.

rcmodel
June 18, 2013, 12:18 AM
to mount in my car as a last ditch life saver.I would go for the 4" Spiderco Rescue folder, clipped in a sun visor pocket or appropriate place on your seat belt.

That's one reason they make them for.

You could sever somebody's arm with one while they had a hand around your throat.

And it's even better & safer for cutting yourself out of seat-belts or air bags then a pointy end, sharp enough to do the same thing fixed blade would be.

rc

MrCleanOK
June 18, 2013, 12:44 AM
For a defensive knife, I would recommend either one of these. I have both, and think they would be great for a car knife. Inexpensive, molded plastic sheaths (kydex will get messed up in a hot car), riveted construction so you can tie or bolt/screw them down. The TDI also has a bigger brother if you want a longer blade.

http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-BK14-Becker-Knife-Eskabar/dp/B004CIQY6K/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1371530258&sr=1-1&keywords=eskabar

http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-1480-Knife-Tdi-Enforce-blk/dp/B003IXYW3M/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1371530277&sr=1-1&keywords=kabar+tdi

If you're looking for something more rescue tool oriented, I'd get one of these. If you know anyone in the military with a couple of recent deployments under their belt, they probably have a pile of them and would just let you have one. It'll cut seat belts in an emergency, and I'm sure if you took the glass breaker end to a car jacker's face he would reconsider his life choices.

http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-30-000132-Safety-Coyote-Included/dp/B001PTGOKK/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1371530379&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=gerber+seat+belt+cuter

ugaarguy
June 18, 2013, 01:17 AM
I like RC's suggestion on the Spyderco Rescue (C45). If you stretch your budget a bit there's also the improved version, the Assist (C79), which has a hidden glass breaker (revealed by pressing the finger groove spine blade further into the handle), rescue whistle, and Spyderco's so-called Cobra Hood above the blade hole for easier opening with gloved hands. If you want lower cost while still maintaining high quality you could grab a Spyderco Byrd Cara Cara Rescue for under $25 online. If corrosion resistance and minimal maintenance are important you could always look at the H1 steel versions of the Rescue, the Atlantic Salt (C89) and the Salt Saver (C118)

If you're dead set on a fixed blade the Boker Plus CK-1 Rescue is the fixed blade equivalent of the above folders. If double edged blades are legal in your jurisdiction, and you want a fighting style knife that can be passed off as a rescue knife then the Boker Plus Diver's Knife adaption of their Steelmariner knife may be your best bet.

If it was me, I'd get either the Boker Plus Rescue or the Spyderco Byrd Rescue. Both are inexpensive knives that are still well made, and have true emergency use designs. They cut costs by manufacturing them in China, and using tried and true steels that are no longer the hot new thing. The Boker uses 440c, while the Byrd uses the Chinese version of AUS-8. We think of those as mid level steels now, but they were considered premium not that long ago. Both knives are more than sufficient for the carried often used little contingency role you've specified.

Valkman
June 18, 2013, 01:32 AM
The Spyderco Rescue is what I have in my truck, I keep it in the center compartment with a flashlight. Mine has Orange handles, very easy to find.

zxcvbob
June 18, 2013, 01:43 AM
How about a professional kitchen knife/butcher knife? I still have one of these that I bought 30 years ago (in my kitchen, not in my truck) and it's like a razor *and* an ice pick all in one, with a nonslip handle:
http://www.swissknifeshop.com/r-h-forschner-6-semi-stiff-curved-boning-knife?gclid=COGttKLy7LcCFY0WMgodzX4Arw

rcmodel
June 18, 2013, 02:20 AM
or a sheath maker that could make me a kydex or leather sheath for this purpose.I still think a Spyderco Rescue clipped to a seat belt or visor is the best of the best you can get for this use.

But for less then $10 bucks?

Buy a Chinese serrated kitchen boning knife and a chunk of 1" or 1 1/4" white PVC pipe at the hardware store.

Then heat the PVC pipe over a stove burner until you can force the knife handle into it and hand mold it till it snaps in and out while it cools.
(Use an oven mitt!)

Then heat the remaining part of the pipe again, and squeeze it flat in a vice against the blade.

I have had a cheap Wal-Mart boning knife hanging off my Honda lawn mower for going on 5 years now with plastic cable ties.
I use it to cut out weeds out by the roots while mowing.

You can do the same anywhere in a car with plastic cable ties or duct tape.

But like I said twice before.
Get a Spydeco Rescue and be safer and better armed.

A long pointy razor sharp blade inside a car during a crisis would be more dangerous to you then what you think you are going to do with it in a crisis.



http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/Knives/Mowerknife1_zps37d54ba1.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/Knives/Mowerknife2_zps562a1cd4.jpg

rc

Mp7
June 18, 2013, 02:59 AM
... i would mount a

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=174384&d=1352377393

Mora Companion somewhere.

In fact, that`s what i did.

It`s not as sturdy as a Ka-Bar ... but i feel confident with
its cutting and stabbing capabilities.

kBob
June 18, 2013, 08:54 AM
Based on direct personal experience I would say......something cheap you won't mind being stolen.

Other than that I would say an M4 bayonet......attached to its M1 Carbine.

I might check a few yard sales to see what was available. Recently picked up on of the steel pipe handled BSA Hatchet with a sheath that needs repairing.

I would consider a serrated edge, if for no other reason than cutting seat belts. You mentioned it for being for defensive use in a car......the car makes a pretty good defensive tool as well.

-kBob

mole
June 18, 2013, 09:36 AM
I used Velcro to attach a Mora inside of the pocket on my car door.

Deltaboy
June 18, 2013, 10:28 AM
Another vote for Moras I got carbon steel ones in all my rigs in the glove box or in the door.

RTR_RTR
June 18, 2013, 01:01 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-1480-Kn...ords=kabar+tdi

This is what I have. Sheath latches perfectly to whatever you call the compartment on the side of the door. Easy access to both hands. Just there to get a hand off me long enough to drive away

Sam Cade
June 18, 2013, 01:13 PM
I vote for a Mora as well.

BLB68
June 18, 2013, 01:24 PM
If you're looking for something more rescue tool oriented, I'd get one of these. If you know anyone in the military with a couple of recent deployments under their belt, they probably have a pile of them and would just let you have one. It'll cut seat belts in an emergency, and I'm sure if you took the glass breaker end to a car jacker's face he would reconsider his life choices.

http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-30-000132-Safety-Coyote-Included/dp/B001PTGOKK/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1371530379&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=gerber+seat+belt+cuter

Personally, I'd go with the ResQMe over the Gerber thing.

I'll second the folder over the fixed blade suggestions. If you want something that cuts well and isn't too expensive, you may want to look at Spyderco's Byrd line. They're made overseas, but held to Spyderco's high standards. (Unlike Benchmade's red box knives, which are junk, IMO.)

I'd also second going with serrated blades. The Cara Cara Rescue is 4" and about $24 on Knifecenter, an the Medowlark Rescue is 3 1/8" and about $20.

Coyote3855
June 20, 2013, 06:22 PM
I had the Gerber thing clipped to the visor when a texting teenager doing 40 mph rearended me at stop light. When the dust settled, I had no idea where the Gerber was but certainly no longer clipped to the visor. Nor was my Glock 23 still tucked between the seat and the console. Clipping to a stationary part of the seat belt might be better, but I like RC's sheath option for a fixed blade. Oh, no one was injured and he had excellent insurance.

jyo
June 24, 2013, 04:02 AM
Glock knives are decent European made fixed-blade knives---cheap too---about $30 bucks last time I looked...

JShirley
June 24, 2013, 08:34 AM
Well, they're tough. That about the only decent thing about them!

jack44
June 24, 2013, 09:32 AM
How about this one?

Certaindeaf
June 24, 2013, 10:30 AM
Maybe if you had to stab a mouse in the head.. it seems pretty small.







































Just kidding!

hso
June 24, 2013, 10:59 AM
Some of you are missing that the OP wants a defensive knife and not a rescue knife.

a strictly defensive knife

I would advocate a fixed blade in the close quarters of a vehicle. It will be used primarily in a surprised state requiring just the use of gross motor skills to put to use and the sheath has to be both secure against the knife coming out in an accident and still easy to use in a crisis. The knife is a much easier item to identify than the sheath due to the requirements. The combination will be difficult to get under the price stated.


Think about how the knife is going to be used. Inside the car you may have a lot of difficulty with slashing. In the transition from outside/inside you may have that as your primary initial response. So, think carefully about what situation you'll be in when you need to employ it.

A serrated fixed blade might help with the cover of the knife as a rescue tool.

Certaindeaf
June 24, 2013, 02:25 PM
Upon being put on track by hso, one knife that has done well and that one might carry, (and as was suggested in post #20) and since abut everyone has carried one or has one is the Ka-Bar or Camillus equivalent 7". Then you just have to affix it to whatever.. and bear the barbs of those telling you you might as well have un-pinned hand grenades in you car. or a turd

hso
June 24, 2013, 02:56 PM
Ummmm, Just so folks understand - I commonly recommend against the USMC Fighting Utility Knife/USN Mk2 and would advise against anything longer than 5" in this application.

Certaindeaf
June 24, 2013, 03:48 PM
Ummmm, Just so folks understand - I commonly recommend against the USMC Fighting Utility Knife/USN Mk2 and would advise against anything longer than 5" in this application.
Since this a particular query and "not common", what would you suggest, especially given your prior to this assertion.

hso
June 24, 2013, 05:42 PM
Consisder where the knife has to be mounted in a car and all of the intervening levers, wheels, straps, consoles, etc. that it might hang up on and a large knife becomes less practical because of the mechanics and obsticals of the draw and deployement.

If you don't have a practice knife of the size of the desired knife, take a flat foot long ruler (that's likely to give you between 6 and 7 inches of "blade") and tape it with blue tape anywhere you might consider. Strap yourself in the driver's seat. Roll all the windows down. Turn the radio/stereo up to 11. Jump out of the car and run around it 3 times to get your pulse racing and then race to get back into the seat, slam the door, and strapped in to "draw" the knife. The idea is to simulate the stress and surprise of needing the knife "right now". The longer the blade the more to hang up on all the "clutter" in a car.

Walkalong
June 24, 2013, 06:41 PM
Something small to medium, easy to grip, pointed, but not thinly, reasonably strong. I am for no serrations of any kind in case you need to remove it quickly for another strike. But try not to get surprised when strapped into your car seat.

I have one of these. I use it for the occasional steak at work.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/439302/cold-steel-roach-belly-fixed-blade-knife-425-drop-point-4116-krupp-stainless-steel-blade-polypropylene-handle-black

This one interests me.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3174510804/heckler-and-koch-14101-conspiracy-fixed-blade-tactical-knife-48-tanto-point-9cr13-black-stainless-steel-blade-black-g-10-handle

I am certainly no expert on knives though. :)

saltydog452
June 24, 2013, 07:03 PM
A Kershaw Black Blur that has a small disposasble keychain light attached hangs out of my no-longer-needed cigarette ash tray. (Yippee! 5 years now)

There is an outragiously expensive Dollar General box cutter in the cell 'phone cup. The cost was 10.00 per dozen. It kinda cool for opening DVDs and removing the occasional splinter. It rides in the cup next to the Dora and Batman BandAids.

salty

the count
June 24, 2013, 07:13 PM
How about paying only $25 and getting a REAL knife......?!

Cold Steel GI Tanto...

Defense: Check
Whack your way out of a wreck: Check
Cut your sub in half: Check

Even comes with a decent sheath. What more can you ask for?

http://www.knifehog.com/images/Product/medium/1185.jpg

hso
June 24, 2013, 09:08 PM
7" blade bad idea for all the aforementioned reasons.

Sam Cade
June 26, 2013, 01:36 PM
I'm changing my vote.

Given that the primary purpose of the knife is martial, and it is to be wielded in close quarters with no room for a proper swing, the only reasonable choice is the Imacasa 975D14 "Burriquito".

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=185688&stc=1&d=1372267668

Of equal importance is mode of carriage.

My first choice would of course be attaching the blade to the headliner of the vehicle with an array of neodymium magnets.

If the OP is willing to sacrifice some small measure of personal safety for speed of deployment I would suggest the following alternative method.
It has the advantage of working well on motorcycles, convertibles and other open-topped conveyances.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=185689&stc=1&d=1372268068












:neener:

hso
June 26, 2013, 03:46 PM
Nice shirt!

BTW, wouldn't the constant drooling be a problem (or is that why the shirt?!)?

Sam Cade
June 26, 2013, 03:55 PM
Nice shirt!


Herzlichen Dank.

Much to my wife's chagrin, I have a closet full of them.




BTW, wouldn't the constant drooling be a problem

Not as much as you would think. Even so, it is advisable to drive fast enough so that the slipstream dries the saliva faster than it is secreted.

Keep the blade well oiled to prevent corrosion of course.

kBob
June 26, 2013, 04:42 PM
For a while I had a F-S knife on the left of the driver's seat so as to be available to the left hand for a simple stab with my left into the passenger's seat area. Practiced with a dowel and against a buddy. Sorry small blade and slash guys....I think having five or six inches of double edged razor sharp good ness inserted some where between the top of your hip and your arm pit on the left side and jerked around is going to pretty much stop aggressive action.

The knife was in a car that way when it was stolen ( an original BTW) the only good thing about the theft was that who ever stole it cut the belt hanger off the sheath with it......and apparently cut themselves pretty badly based on the blood next to where the hanger fell. Local Sheriff's department and I were very surpised there were no ER reports that evening/morning for such a wound.

-kBob

Deltaboy
June 26, 2013, 06:02 PM
Mora all the way.

Fred Fuller
June 28, 2013, 11:18 AM
Take a look at the Boker Mosier Trigonaut - http://www.amazon.com/BŲker-02BO280-Boker-Trigonaut-Knife/dp/B0037EZ0TC ($58 and change)

Short enough to use in confined spaces, but long enough to do the work, works acceptably in both forward and reverse grips, a stout enough blade of good enough steel (Sandvik 12C27) to abuse some if necessary, stabby and slashy as needed, and a decent production copy of a good custom design (though I wish it were flat ground instead of hollow ground).

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31%2BIai58hpL._SX342_.jpg

Perfection for what you describe IMHO would be a Ban Tang- made copy of SouthNarc's Disciple, but that's more than twice your budget....

Corpral_Agarn
June 28, 2013, 03:25 PM
I'm changing my vote.

Given that the primary purpose of the knife is martial, and it is to be wielded in close quarters with no room for a proper swing, the only reasonable choice is the Imacasa 975D14 "Burriquito".

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=185688&stc=1&d=1372267668

Of equal importance is mode of carriage.

My first choice would of course be attaching the blade to the headliner of the vehicle with an array of neodymium magnets.

If the OP is willing to sacrifice some small measure of personal safety for speed of deployment I would suggest the following alternative method.
It has the advantage of working well on motorcycles, convertibles and other open-topped conveyances.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=185689&stc=1&d=1372268068


Thread Post of the day!
good to see a fellow pirate! Aarrrgghhh!!!!

Thanks for a good laugh!

back to blades: I think anything slim, pointy and has at least one edge that's around 4 inches long would do you.
Something like a Cold Steel Spike maybe?
http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Wrapped-Handle-Secure-Ex/dp/B000BSWE8C

rondog
June 28, 2013, 04:01 PM
Hmmm, I'd never really thought about keeping a knife in my truck to repel boarders, that's why I usually have a pistol of some sort wedged between the front seats right next to my leg. This may bear some research.

Berkley
June 28, 2013, 06:35 PM
On the inside of my driverís seat, just where my right hand naturally falls if I drop it from the steering wheel, is what appears to be some sort of seat back adjustment handle. No mechanic or passenger has ever even noticed or commented on it.
http://i41.tinypic.com/vxowoo.jpg
In fact it's a CRKT Bear Claw-sharp tip plain edge- equally useful for cutting the seat belt that anchors just next to it, or purely defensive use in tight quarters. Fortunately I have never had to use it for either purpose, but itís a comfort to know it is there.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2qvauxk.jpg
The standard sheath is fastened to a U-shaped Kydex backing plate that slips up under the edge of the shift console cover.

saltydog452
September 13, 2013, 01:32 PM
The between the teeth carry worked when Johnny Weismiller was diving into the river. Luckily, he never seemed to get confused as to which way the edge of the blade was facing.

Tarzan survied, as did Jane, the crock-a-gator didn't. Jane was a drop dead Fox.

Giving credit where credit is due, 'Jane', Fay Wray, and National Geographic gave this pre adolescent a brief glimpse as to the the bumps and curves of wimmin.

Given the stds of the Motion Picture Board, its surprising that those films were released w/o lots of editing.

Slight thread drift. My bad. The blade between the teeth got me thinking of Tarzan in that time period.

salty

ArmedOkie
September 14, 2013, 10:45 AM
go down to walmart and pick up the winchester bowie knife. that thing would SUUUUUCCCKKKK to get smacked with, and with a decent sharpener would be a great buy at 20 bucks. strong as tarnation, my friend bought one for the exact same reason. tucks the sheath down between his seat and the center console. Not saying its as good as a lot of other weapons quality-wise, but its pretty good for 20 bucks!

check local laws obviously.

22-rimfire
September 14, 2013, 11:25 AM
I would choose the Mora Companion even though I am not particularly a Mora lover. It should work pretty well and if you change your mind, you only spent about $15-$20.

Storm
September 14, 2013, 11:43 AM
I have a Buck/Harstook Ultralite http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=product.detail&productID=3563 in S30V steel hanging down by my rear view mirror in my Jeep. While I have it mostly in case I would needed to cut through my soft top roof to escape, it is razor sharp and would be very effective in a defensive role.

jdub3
September 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
I'd look at something like a Cold Steel Peacemaker, Counter-tac, or Tanto Lite, or one of the Spike series.

I know some people don't like CS, but they make great budget knives in my experience.

Col4570
September 16, 2013, 06:56 PM
Here in the Uk if caught with a knife in your car you need to explain it is part of your tool kit.If you say it is for personal protection the handcuffs would be on you rapido.Slowly the lawmakers are realising that there are some nasty people out there but self protection weapons cannot be outside the home.

Speedo66
September 16, 2013, 07:55 PM
A knife fastened in your car would be tough to prove you just happened to have it if police get involved.

Probably a better legal weapon would be something like a 3 or 4 battery Mag-Light in your door pocket. Makes a great club, and doesn't come across as a per se weapon.

"But officer, it's just a flash light". :rolleyes:

blindhari
September 16, 2013, 10:25 PM
For the price point and use intended go to Ragnars Forge and buy 3 Mora #748. Short enough for close work, light enough to carry, strong enough to use daily. This modern Pukko form blade is over 5" long with I would guess about a 4"+ handle. It works out to about the size and weight of the Gerber MK1 I carried back in the late 60s. All the defensive/offensive knife I ever needed.

blindhari
SGT
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Life During Wartime
September 19, 2013, 01:26 AM
I have a CRKT Stiff K.I.S.S. with a Tanto point. The sheath it come with has holes in it for securing to things that I suppose you could use to bolt down with. I got it from Big 5 for around 35 dollars. It technically is discontinued but BIG 5 tends to keep discontinued products for a number of years. They still have them when I went last around a month ago. Might be worth checking into.

Exactly where in the vehicle is this going? Under/Above the dash or on the back of a seat?

Edit:
Here is a picture of the knife (its the one on the top). You can see the holes in the sheath.

For any curious, the bottom knife is a Buck Hartsook Ultralite. I would not recommend it for your intended purposes, but in specific roles it is great.

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