James Yeager vs. your average reloader... let's compare resumes


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Bovice
June 18, 2013, 11:24 PM
So I was cruising around on youtube, and stumbled on several video posts from James Yeager. This one I thought was the funniest.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsxdk1V8i-M&feature=relmfu

Now, we all know that it isn't unheard of for 9mm to operate in the 30-32k psi range, and .40 has a ceiling at 35k. Most of it probably stays between 30-33k I'd imagine, unless you have it at the absolute top.

So my question is this; based on your loading habits and your chrono data (if applicable), would you consider 9mm to be "high pressure"? Given that I load mine on the healthy side with universal for reliably knocking over steel, I'd say yes. In terms of pressure, it would be closer to .40/357 SIG than .45 auto.

This isn't intended as a debate on what's best, I'm just trying to get a feel for how fellow reloaders feel about 9mm and if it's categorized as high pressure.

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rcmodel
June 18, 2013, 11:32 PM
Yes, it is high-pressure.

SAAMI specs list 9mm at 35,000.
9mm +P at 38,500.

.40 S&W at 35,000.
.357 Magnum at 35,000.
.44 Magnum at 36,000.
10mm at 37,500.
.45 ACP at 21,000.

If 9mm +P isn't high pressure in an auto pistol round, I don't know what is.



BTW: I've noticed a very high incidence / percentage of Morons on YouTube where it comes to all things gun related.

rc

Shmackey
June 18, 2013, 11:57 PM
9mm is definitively a high-pressure round.

steve4102
June 19, 2013, 01:25 AM
As stated above, Yes of course it's a high pressure round.

JShirley
June 19, 2013, 01:47 AM
I'm sorry, what? You lost me at "James Yeager".




;)

Fire_Moose
June 19, 2013, 02:28 AM
Wow, never seen that Guy before. I feel like I just unlearned.

Sent from my CZ85 Combat

Aaron1100us
June 19, 2013, 03:24 AM
From what I found

9mm is 34,500 psi
.40 is 37,000 psi
.357 sig is 40,000 psi

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Bovice
June 19, 2013, 03:46 AM
The funny part is that he's so opinionated but the "facts" aren't factual and he presents it with the attitude of "I'm right because I said I was" and "let's compare resumes". If we're blaming "high pressure" for worn out guns, and 9mm works at the same pressure as .40, the fallacy of the argument is evident. Most people probably don't give much thought to cartridge pressure, but reloaders certainly do. Having loaded and shot all 4 calibers discussed, I can't say that .40 was any worse for wear than 9 or .45. 357 seemed to be a little worse.

thump_rrr
June 19, 2013, 06:45 AM
This just confirmed my previous opinion of James Yeager.

340PD
June 19, 2013, 09:13 AM
Acknowledging Yeager as a viable source for anything is pure folly.

john wall
June 19, 2013, 09:15 AM
Glock will tell you the 40 is a High Pressure round using a heavy bullet.

This makes the round harder on a gun than the 9X19, which is a High Pressure round using a light bullet.

No comments on Mr Yeager. :o

Arkansas Paul
June 19, 2013, 09:24 AM
BTW: I've noticed a very high incidence / percentage of Morons on YouTube where it comes to all things gun related.

Or anything else related for that matter.

0to60
June 19, 2013, 09:43 AM
I saw that video the other day also, and I thought the same thing. You'd think the guy would take 5 minutes to check wikipedia before filming an entire video on the subject.

If you REALLY wanna LYAO, watch this one at the :24 mark, where he does situps with his AK. Good stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN5Ioa43i4U

jmorris
June 19, 2013, 10:03 AM
If 9mm +P isn't high pressure in an auto pistol round, I don't know what is.

And that doesn't count +P+ ammo

Official +P pressures are established by the SAAMI for certain cartridges; in general the +P pressure is approximately 10% higher than the standard pressure (see chart below). SAAMI does not have a +P+ pressure standard, but this indicates a pressure higher than the +P loading. In both cases this is below the pressure of proof test cartridge, which all firearms are required to withstand before they may be sold. Proof pressure are established by the SAAMI, as a percentage of the working pressure, so this places an upper bound on the +P+ pressures of 30–40%

caz223
June 19, 2013, 12:21 PM
Anyone who calls themselves the 'world's leading expert' in anything isn't done learning the basics.

Feanaro
June 19, 2013, 12:42 PM
Is it so wrong that I sort of hope people believe him anyway, because it means fewer .40S&W cases to sort through while scrounging for my .45acp brass? :evil:

Elkins45
June 19, 2013, 12:48 PM
BTW: I've noticed a very high incidence / percentage of Morons on YouTube where it comes to all things gun related.

Your comment is still valid even without the second clause.

Comrade Mike
June 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
The man doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground on a lot of things he speaks to. He's too busy playing cool guy in his own little world to ever stop and think he may just be wrong.

silicosys4
June 19, 2013, 01:04 PM
The first video of his that I saw on his youtube page was titled
"women are too stupid to choose their own guns"

Don't want to increase his views by watching.

Guy doesn't just come off as a tool...he comes off as the whole shop

Arkansas Paul
June 19, 2013, 01:30 PM
The first video of his that I saw on his youtube page was titled
"women are too stupid to choose their own guns"

Don't want to increase his views by watching.

Guy doesn't just come off as a tool...he comes off as the whole shop

That video about women is actually slamming guys who want to pick out their gf's or wife's gun for them. The entire point of it is to say that women should pick out their own and that they are capable of it.

Don't know much about him other than that.

higgite
June 19, 2013, 02:04 PM
9mm = high pressure

the linked Youtube video = Dorf on Guns

Fire_Moose
June 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
In addition to my last post, I do agree with him that 40 s suck....

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Arkansas Paul
June 19, 2013, 03:46 PM
I do agree with him that 40 s suck...

And by suck, you mean strike the perfect combination between 9mm and .45. :neener:

Comrade Mike
June 19, 2013, 05:35 PM
Gentleman please let's not get into this :D

Just remember shot placement is king.

stubbicatt
June 19, 2013, 06:11 PM
Oh wow. I've seen that guy before. I didn't know his name. I had hoped to avoid seeing him again. I was unsuccessful. :(

BullfrogKen
June 19, 2013, 06:30 PM
I don't have to go past the title of the thread here.

Yeager brings nothing to the table.

taliv
June 19, 2013, 06:44 PM
Even though he almost seems to be begging for abuse , Thr and especially the reloading forum isn't the place for it.

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