How do you carry when you go to a black tie event


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horsemen61
June 19, 2013, 08:55 PM
Ok y'all So i have to go to a a black tie banquet dinner suits the whole 10 yards anyways my question to you is how do you carry in this situation. I have a friends kel tec p 32 while he is out of town for the weekend and that is what I am planning on carrying it reasons why I know it well and can shoot it pretty darn well so now I am trying to figure out how to carry it he has one of those little metal clips on it so I'm thinking inside my jacket pocket that is inside the jacket so what do y'all think?

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camsdaddy
June 19, 2013, 08:59 PM
When I carried a p32 I used the clip and slid I'd aiwb next to my belt buckle. Now days when I would go to such I simply carry in a smartcarry. Also you could buy a cheap uncle mikes or blackhawk pocket holster

Sam1911
June 19, 2013, 09:15 PM
My favorite carry rig by far is this one that member Joel made for me early in his holster-making career:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/sam1911/0910110025-1.jpg

VERY tuckable. Only the straps show when I've got a thin dress shirt tucked in around the gun. It would perhaps be possible that a very thin tux white shirt might let the color of the dark gun on my hip show if I removed my jacket, but I normally wear dark shirts and the gun is literally invisible -- again, except for the two nondescript black straps around the belt.

Iggy
June 19, 2013, 09:51 PM
Seecamp in the pocket in my cummerbund. Kinda hard to imagine and ol weed hummer in a tux ain't it.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/image.php?u=120141&dateline=1246206511&type=thumb
I even break out my black Stetson for them kind of doin's.

slamfirev10
June 19, 2013, 10:33 PM
a .380 in a smartcarry when suited, very comfy

YJake
June 19, 2013, 10:38 PM
I have a S&W 442 with the pretty Smith grips (You know, the checkered walnut ones with the gold S&W emblems in them) at 4 o' clock IWB usually

Other times I have a 3" S&W Model 10 with pretty grips in the same position.

And sometimes I even tuck my SW1911 in that spot, with the pretty grips :cool:

Oh yes! Don't forget the "mirror polished with pearl grips" NAA 22WMR in the suit jacket pocket ;)

Yeah, I dress up a lot and enjoy it. :D

-Jake

highorder
June 19, 2013, 10:40 PM
A PPK in a shoulder rig, of course!

;)

Deaf Smith
June 20, 2013, 12:02 AM
I have an old Ken Null J frame upside down should rig just for that.

Takes my old steel 640 .38 special perfectly.

Deaf

jeepnik
June 20, 2013, 12:09 AM
Geesh, I wear a suit and such for only three occasions, weddings, funerals and baptisms. Lately it seems to be only funerals that are occurring. It's the only time I carry IWB and then it's an AMT .380 (single action model). Tucked in at about 8 o'clock (I'm a southpaw).

Torian
June 20, 2013, 12:11 AM
When I'm wearing a suit and tie, I love to carry my FN Hi power in an Allessi Bodyguard rig. Very comfortable, and concealable.

Onward Allusion
June 20, 2013, 12:18 AM
A P32 fits nicely in a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster - with or without the anti-print cover. The clip carry method works well for IWB but in a suit jacket (or Tux) it will drag the pocket down because it doesn't distribute the weight evenly.

9mmepiphany
June 20, 2013, 12:47 AM
I have an old Ken Null J frame upside down should rig just for that.
I have the same rig, sized for my Kahr CW9

OP - you could always wear it behind your cummerbund

Sergei Mosin
June 20, 2013, 01:09 AM
Last time I got that dressed up was my wedding. I told my bride that my matte stainless CZ 75B was my dress gun, a very classy looking piece that would go perfectly with a tux, and that I should wear it to the wedding.

You can guess what she told me. :rolleyes:

jim243
June 20, 2013, 01:32 AM
You can guess what she told me.

Yes, I can, but her Dad was caring the shotgun. (LOL)

Jim

Me for a black tie event, just the usual, a Walther PPK in a Galco Executive Shoulder Holster, cumber bun, frilled shirt, bow tie, tux and gym shoes. My surname is really James not Jim.

DeepSouth
June 20, 2013, 01:35 AM
When "formal" I go small, a NAA Mini my front right pocket. Normally a black tie event isn't exactly a high risk area, so the better than a sharp stick NAA would work for me. But then again I don't own a tie, so what do I know about black tie events?

jbrown50
June 20, 2013, 01:36 AM
I have a belly band holster that my Kahr PM40 fits nicely into. It's come in pretty handy for the few times I've had to wear a tux. If I'm just wearing one of my regular old suits, I can wear a belt with all of the pants and the pockets are just loose enough to hide the PM40.

4895
June 20, 2013, 01:53 AM
A PPK in a shoulder rig, of course!

My thoughts exactly 007.

ColtPythonElite
June 20, 2013, 02:29 AM
Colt Agent or Cobra in pants pocket.

bannockburn
June 20, 2013, 07:25 AM
Belly band holster and a SIG P-238 would be my choice for a black tie event.

beatledog7
June 20, 2013, 08:04 AM
As some have alluded, a gentleman doesn't wear a suit to a black-tie event. Such an event requires a tuxedo.

Carry options are the same, but don't wear a suit to a black-tie dinner.

AirForceShooter
June 20, 2013, 08:17 AM
.25 Beretta.
Chamois shoulder holster.

AFS

beatledog7
June 20, 2013, 08:28 AM
AFS,

MI6 collected James Bond's .25 Beretta decades ago and made him carry a .32 PPK. He still never missed.

Z1D2
June 20, 2013, 09:38 AM
I would say on the ankle sounds good.

aarondhgraham
June 20, 2013, 11:32 AM
It's been a while but the last time I wore a tux,,,
I went all James Bond traditional (http://aarondgraham.com/knighthood/index.htm).

I carried a borrowed Beretta .25 in a minimal shoulder holster,,,
Absolutely no one noticed I was carrying a handgun.

If I were to ever don a tux again,,,
It would be with my Taurus 25-PLY in the same rig

Aarond

.

fdashes
June 20, 2013, 12:00 PM
lol, 4895, that is what I was thinking. But....the ppk seems so underated in here. It is pretty, easily hideable, and is actually accurate enough to take care of any personal protection situation. IMO ;)

303tom
June 20, 2013, 12:00 PM
Never been to a black tie event, but if I go some place that I have to dress nice, I carry my folding mini in my pocket.....................(just in case)

hgte2001
June 20, 2013, 12:06 PM
Sounds perfect. Nice jacket. IWB holster or tuckable glock 27. Simple effective and reliable.

642 naked in jacket pocket! Any J Frame

I have custom make 2" Rhino holster also for 357.

45crittergitter
June 20, 2013, 05:12 PM
A black Les Baer 1911, of course. I use IWB.

GCBurner
June 20, 2013, 08:21 PM
A 7.65mm Walther PPK in a inside-the-waistband holster, concealed under the cummerbund.

Gun Master
June 20, 2013, 08:34 PM
Bauer .25 (SS copy of Baby Browning) in one pocket, and 3'' lock blade in another. Hey, it beats nuttin' !:o

AK103K
June 20, 2013, 08:42 PM
A PPK in a shoulder rig, of course!
But of course. :D

Or a P230, or Glock 26, or a J frame, in one of these.....

Galco Executive
http://www.usgalco.com/Catalog/large/EXEC.jpg

welshdude
June 20, 2013, 09:10 PM
A PPK in a shoulder rig, of course!

;)

Definately. Shaken, not stirred...:cool:

jeepnik
June 20, 2013, 10:18 PM
Keep this up guys and I'll have to start carrying my .25 Beretta daily. I am surprised just how accurate this little thing really is. But, I doubt I could count on one shot stops the way Bond did.

Maybe Q had some special ammo. I seem to recall when they take his Beretta away they told him the .32 hit like a brick. Must have been an awfully small brick.

Deaf Smith
June 21, 2013, 12:13 AM
"Major Boothroyd: [to Bond] Walther PPK, 7.65 millimeter, with a delivery like a brick through a plate-glass window. The American CIA swear by them. "

Well it's a good description if attacked by a plate-glass window. Dunno if the CIA swears by them.

Deaf

hariph creek
June 21, 2013, 02:44 PM
Wear a suit three times a week.

Used to pocket a Detective Special. Kinda big but doable.

Went to a Seecamp LWS32 in the pocket. Sweet but, had to be careful how I grabbed it. Too small for my hams...I mean hands.

Changed to my Sig P290RS. Initially pocket carry. Then got a Null USH-X for it. Awesome upside down rig. Goes under a button up shirt. Previous shoulder and neck injuries make it unusable, for me. Dang it!
Back to pocket carry, with the Sig. Works fine, I just hate not being able to draw while seated.

Shortly will be getting a KelTec P32. Great for pocket, light enough for jacket breast pocket.

JRs12Valve
June 21, 2013, 05:15 PM
Wear a suit once a week. What I'll be doing depends on how I'll be carrying. I'll usually keep a top break .38 in my vest pocket, other than that, I'll carry my Kimber in a Galco Jackass holster, or I'll just tuck a single action 1873 behind my waistband.

LongTimeGone
June 21, 2013, 10:24 PM
Seecamp in the pocket
of my pants in a Galco holster, tux or suit.

postalnut25
June 22, 2013, 02:45 AM
Last super fancy event I went to had me carrying a 642 on my ankle.

9mmepiphany
June 22, 2013, 02:47 AM
of my pants in a Galco holster, tux or suit.
Your tux has pockets :confused:

tarosean
June 22, 2013, 02:56 AM
Your tux has pockets

Im guessing one of them snazy T-Shirt ones??? :D

Twiki357
June 22, 2013, 03:14 AM
What ever you carry, just hope that the event is not at a location with metal detectors. :eek:

2@low8
June 22, 2013, 04:04 AM
I use a trouser holster (crotch holster) from CTD! (TRW-330) for $19.97. Perfect fit for my G27 or S&W 640 with an additional magazine or speed loader and very comfortable.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=185589&stc=1&d=1372024295

Almost no possibility of it becoming visible or printing which is definitely a no-no at black tie affairs.

herrwalther
June 22, 2013, 07:22 AM
At a black tie event, I wear yellow ties...

When I go to formal events I leave my jacket on all the time so a shoulder holster works best. Since I don't go to them often my shoulder holster is a cheap but effective Condor model I got for around 20 bucks. Durable enough when I was carrying an M9 overseas when I didn't want it on my kidney/leg/chest. Under a jacket, a 1911 is very much at home in it.

LongTimeGone
June 22, 2013, 10:29 AM
Your tux has pockets

This is what they call a tux here.
http://www.uptowntux.com/weddingtux.html
Edit ;
I guess not a true black tie event though and it's been to long to remember when I wore what you have in mind.

pendennis
June 22, 2013, 11:10 AM
Keep this up guys and I'll have to start carrying my .25 Beretta daily. I am surprised just how accurate this little thing really is. But, I doubt I could count on one shot stops the way Bond did.

Maybe Q had some special ammo. I seem to recall when they take his Beretta away they told him the .32 hit like a brick. Must have been an awfully small brick.
The knock on the Beretta, was that 007 was using it silenced when he encountered Rosa Kleb, of SMERSH. He got in caught in his clothing, and nearly got killed.

Boothroyd thought it was underpowered, and even more so, when "silenced". Bond countered by saying he had never missed with it. He reminisced that he had literally "dressed to kill" carrying it in a suede holster.

However, as others have cited, it was the Walther, or a S&W Airweight (Model 42?).

Roadking Rider
June 22, 2013, 11:51 AM
Kel Tec P3at in my pocket. It's not my favorite pistol but has been 100% reliable. It has it's plusses in certain situations where Deep CC is important.

MedWheeler
June 22, 2013, 12:14 PM
I haven't been to a "black tie" event since the eighties, and I wore an Undercover .38 on my ankle (I was an off-duty LEO.)

Now, when I do have to "dress up", which is rare, it's a Kel-Tec P32 in a front pocket. I've actually done that with a PF9, too, before I got the P32.

mountainpharm
June 22, 2013, 12:38 PM
When in a suit or sport coat (haven't worn a tux since my wedding), I either use my EDC rig which consists of a Walther PPS in a CTAC IWB holster or my Elsie Pea with Crimson Trace in the pocket.

dbp
June 22, 2013, 01:26 PM
My Nano in an Alabama Holsters pocket rig. Doesn't matter the dress type as a pocket is a pocket.

biohazurd
June 22, 2013, 04:59 PM
When I am at a suit and tie event I make good use of a shoulder holster. Smith m&p 9 full size or a 1911. As well as an lcp in my pocket. When I where a suit I very rarely if ever take my suit jacket off so that is my reasoning. A lot of people see it as carrying something smaller. Me I carry something a bit bigger.

Tomac
June 23, 2013, 12:55 PM
I carry a Kahr CM9 AIWB w/a Covert Carrier combo grip/clip:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/Tomac/P6150005.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Tomac/media/P6150005.jpg.html)
Tomac

VA27
June 23, 2013, 05:39 PM
Black tie? Beretta 418 in chamois pouch shoulder holster. Any thing else is...uncivilized.

Me in a suit, .380 Seecamp in a trouser pocket.

2@low8
June 23, 2013, 06:58 PM
I added this photo of the CTD! trouser holster (TRW-330, $19.97) to post #42.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=185589&stc=1&d=1372024295

rodinal220
June 23, 2013, 09:06 PM
PPK/s in a good shoulder rig.

asia331
June 24, 2013, 02:06 AM
Same as always; 1911 strong side OWB; SP101 offside ankle; it's really not that difficult of an issue.

Haywood
June 30, 2013, 05:42 PM
Very rare but if I do have to dress up I use a Tuckable type holster for my LCR357 and pocket my 442 for backup.

sgt127
June 30, 2013, 09:58 PM
The last formal event I went to was at a country club outside of Austin TX.

There were, of course, a couple of options.

I went with the one on the top right. '68 PPK. In a very simple hip holster.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j277/sgt127/wheelof.jpg

Some of the others would have been a bit pretentious.

thorazine
July 1, 2013, 07:12 AM
Ok y'all So i have to go to a a black tie banquet dinner suits the whole 10 yards anyways my question to you is how do you carry in this situation.

Glock nineteen with four spare magazines carried underneath my sombrero.

Sergei Mosin
July 1, 2013, 08:01 AM
Glock nineteen with four spare magazines carried underneath my sombrero.

"Mexican carry" taken to a whole 'nother level!

mwmjones
July 1, 2013, 11:08 AM
kahrs or ppks

45crittergitter
July 11, 2013, 03:09 PM
http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPT3.asp?ProductID=2031&CatalogID=2

http://www.mitchrosen.com/product_line/product_line.html

C5rider
July 11, 2013, 04:23 PM
Lol!
:d

Blackstone
July 11, 2013, 05:23 PM
Is it much different to everyday carry when wearing a jacket?

mljdeckard
July 11, 2013, 05:27 PM
1911 in a crossbreed IWB or a Galco Miami classic, depending a little on how tightly the jacket fits.

bryson1
July 11, 2013, 06:06 PM
I have tried a lot of different concealed carry holsters and Versacarry is my choice.
I use all the time, for .380, .38 revolver, and 740slim.
I will be getting one for my officer 45.
It holds the gun by the inner barrel, and is the smallest holster I ever used, and
I have a drawer full of holsters
.http://www.versacarry.com/

bryson1
July 11, 2013, 06:09 PM
:) Carry with a smile.

Rodfac
July 12, 2013, 12:11 AM
Heck, my #2 son got married with a Ruger Flat Top .357 (a wedding gift from his bride) strapped to his hip, under his tux. in a Tom Threepersons open top holster. I noticed the bulge and so did his mother. Truly a Kentucky wedding! Rod

iblong
July 12, 2013, 09:03 AM
In that atire I could carry any pistol I own Iwb.

40-82
July 12, 2013, 09:29 AM
The event was actually white tie, my sister's wedding back in '73 I had a lightweight commander in my cummerbund. I only report what I did. I don't necessarily encourage anyone to follow my example. I risked the .45 sliding down my pants leg and rattling across the floor. I reccommend less my warning to my future brother-in-law. "I know you'll be nervous. When you walk down the aisle you may feel an impulse to bolt. Go ahead. I love runnings shots."

beatledog7
July 12, 2013, 10:36 AM
My only viable option if I'll be taking off my jacket is a Taurus 738 on my weak side interior ankle. It's the only thing I have small and light enough for ankle carry without discomfort. But such a gun is strictly utilitarian and hardly seems appropriate for black tie.

If I knew for sure that my jacket would not be coming off, which is the case most often for a suit and almost invariably for a tuxedo, the options open up to anything I can carry in an IWB rig or a higher-riding belt rig. I'd carry something with more capacity or at least in a larger caliber. And since it's black tie, carrying a plastic gun would be just wrong, so it'd be either a Baby Eagle, a BDA, or a revolver.

I'd have to pick up a black holster for my 2.5" Security Six. Yeah, I think that'd be my choice.

Vern Humphrey
July 12, 2013, 11:07 AM
When I go to a black tie affair, I carry a sword.

gunsablazin
July 12, 2013, 11:52 AM
You York Rite Vern?

I carry a KelTec P3AT, when I want to be extra discreet.

Vern Humphrey
July 12, 2013, 12:25 PM
Knights of Columbus.;)

Beach Nut
July 12, 2013, 04:12 PM
Whenever I have to dress formal or wear a suit and tie, I carry the smallest gun I
have, the Ruger LCP, in a pocket holster in the inside pocket in my jacket. Wearing
a suit jacket actually makes it somewhat easier to carry in most situations.

B!ngo
July 12, 2013, 11:04 PM
Like the fellow mentioned above, wearing a suit to a black tie (read tuxedo) affair is cause for revocation of the gentleman card. A metaphor I used with my young sons years back to teach them the fine art of behaving properly with women.
To retain ones card, only a real tux will do. And with that tux, any item of mass and weight in a pocket will distort the shape and fit of the garment and you're within a hairsbreadth of losing ones card.
The only technique is a tight-fitting shoulder holster with a modest sized gun (a plausible reason why James carried a small caliber weapon) and/or an ankle holster with another modest sized semi.
No gun in pockets or in cumber bun. And while we're at it, no baseball caps turned backwards. Nothing. :)
B

22-rimfire
July 13, 2013, 06:26 PM
BFR in 475 Linebaugh usually... Oh, I never go to black tie events.

But seriously, it would be something very small and I probably wouldn't carry at all.

spm
July 14, 2013, 04:46 PM
Like the fellow mentioned above, wearing a suit to a black tie (read tuxedo) affair is cause for revocation of the gentleman card. A metaphor I used with my young sons years back to teach them the fine art of behaving properly with women.
To retain ones card, only a real tux will do. And with that tux, any item of mass and weight in a pocket will distort the shape and fit of the garment and you're within a hairsbreadth of losing ones card.
The only technique is a tight-fitting shoulder holster with a modest sized gun (a plausible reason why James carried a small caliber weapon) and/or an ankle holster with another modest sized semi.
No gun in pockets or in cumber bun. And while we're at it, no baseball caps turned backwards. Nothing. :)
B

Absolutely correct on all points.

s.

Deltaboy
July 15, 2013, 08:52 PM
I am in a ministerial robe 90% of all my Black tie affairs so I can carry a shotgun under that thing. Mostly I have my old Charter Undercover in my pocket and a buck 110 on my belt.

Dr.Rob
July 16, 2013, 01:28 AM
Since tuxedos come in many styles, choose one with a waistcoat (vest) and opt for a vest pocket piece.

Unless you are IN the wedding party you can choose what style of 'black tie' matches the event.

Nathanael_Greene
July 16, 2013, 05:05 PM
I pocket-carry a Taurus .25 auto.

perpster
July 17, 2013, 02:32 AM
Front pocket or shoulder holster (assuming you are not wearing a belt with your black-tie).

9mmepiphany
July 17, 2013, 03:29 AM
Front pocket or shoulder holster (assuming you are not wearing a belt with your black-tie).
They make tuxes with belt loops? :confused:

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