My EDC Glock 19 work in progress


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Infidel4life11
June 20, 2013, 09:44 AM
After bouncing around with a few other pistols I knew I would never be happy with an EDC unless it was a G19. This pistol I've posted about before so this is more of a complete overview.
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As it started: factory G19 with a ploymer magwell. I had Jim at Advanced Performance Shooting do the trigger guard undercut and make me a Kydex holster
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Added extented controls, full 3.5lbs trigger, Glock Meister Magwell and warren tactical sights
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Finger groove removal and stippling
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Side stippling
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I still need to do the back strap, KKM barrel and probably a Glockworx trigger. I set out to make the perfect EDC for me. Everyone wants to know about the magwell. For me, it helps a ton with grip more than reloading, it keeps my hand high and I don't fumble when shooting fast. From the draw to round on target my standard is under 1sec and with the way I have this set up it helps me achieve that.

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ku4hx
June 20, 2013, 10:56 AM
I'm not a fan of modifying a carry piece, but this I like. In place of a magwell I went with Pearce PG-19 magazine grip extensions. But the magwell looks like it would work well too.

mdauben
June 20, 2013, 11:23 AM
I'm not a big fan of mag well extentions, but I do like what you've done to the grip. I hate the finger grooves on the Gen3 and Gen4 Glocks as they just don't fit my hands.

David E
June 20, 2013, 11:28 AM
Um, interesting....

I wonder how fast you'd be on the first shot if you weren't fighting that holster each time.

Mainsail
June 20, 2013, 11:51 AM
I'm not a fan of modifying a carry piece...
I'm not a big fan of mag well extentions...

I'm not a fan of either, and truly despise the soldering gun assault that seems so popular on Glocks.

But then again, it's not my gun, so if you like it, that's really all that matters. :cool:

Averageman
June 20, 2013, 11:57 AM
I find the difference between a stippled Glock and one that has been left stock amazing. The ability to retain a consistant grip and to have "landmarks" on the gun make it a much better platform for me.
I have never purchased a pistol with the intent of using it for anything other than a tool. How I modify my tools has a direct relationship on how I use them.
If you have sweaty hands, dirty hands or the potential to need a better grip in an emergency; stippelling is a great way to make your pistol a bit better.

Charles S
June 20, 2013, 12:07 PM
Very nice!

Infidel4life11
June 20, 2013, 03:01 PM
Um, interesting....

I wonder how fast you'd be on the first shot if you weren't fighting that holster each time.
I have a few holsters but the APS holster gets the most carry use. My raven I've had for a year or so doesn't have the retention l need, it's big and rattles. I don't have any issues drawing out of the APS holster, it's my 4th holster from APS.

As for modifying a carry gun I see where most come from. I do it to make it work for me, I also understand the stippling/texturing most don't care for but again its build to me.

Infidel4life11
June 20, 2013, 03:02 PM
I'm not a big fan of mag well extentions, but I do like what you've done to the grip. I hate the finger grooves on the Gen3 and Gen4 Glocks as they just don't fit my hands.
Thank you

David E
June 20, 2013, 03:16 PM
I have a few holsters but the APS holster gets the most carry use. My raven I've had for a year or so doesn't have the retention l need, it's big and rattles. I don't have any issues drawing out of the APS holster, it's my 4th holster from APS.

As for modifying a carry gun I see where most come from. I do it to make it work for me, I also understand the stippling/texturing most don't care for but again its build to me.

Raven is over rated.

The holster pictured appears to prevent a full firing grip, which is essential in the quest for speed.

marb4
June 20, 2013, 03:55 PM
I carried a G26 for a while with a stippled grip. Though it did give better "traction" on the grip, it also rubbed my skin like sandpaper all day. Moved on to a Kahr CW9. A little piece of bicycle inner tube on the grip is cheap and really helps with sweaty palms.

Hunter125
June 20, 2013, 04:20 PM
What does the trigger guard cutout get you?

grimjaw
June 20, 2013, 04:42 PM
I've been lucky, I guess. The only modifications I've felt the need to do on a G19 are night sights and a smooth trigger. I've changed out trigger parts to make it a slightly lighter pull, but it was the same mushy bang button as before; I really can't say it helped much.

But whatever floats your boat. I understand the stippling is popular nowadays.

smalls
June 20, 2013, 04:52 PM
What does the trigger guard cutout get


A higher grip.

I think magwells are a good addition to a carry gun, but that one sticks out too much for my tastes. Reminds me of a race gun rather than a carry gun, where slimness matters more.

gym
June 20, 2013, 04:53 PM
I leave them alone, other than Talon grips, "the sandy ones". But whatever you feel best with is the way to go. it's a nice gun, and glocks are among 2 of my 4 carry guns. The other two are an XDS and a M&P. I only use 9mm and 45 now, after 45 years of carrying every caliber made. Those 2 are the ones I shoot best, and are pretty much similar in their ability to "put down" a bad guy. Since I usually carry 2 guns, It is best to keep them all similar. They all operate the same except for the grip safety on the XDs.
I don't believe in mixing styles, like 1911's and plastic guns without external safetys.
I sold the shield and that was one of the reasons.

Infidel4life11
June 20, 2013, 09:10 PM
Raven is over rated.

The holster pictured appears to prevent a full firing grip, which is essential in the quest for speed.
I don't know maybe its the picture but I can wrap my hand around it just fine when in the holster.

Captains1911
June 20, 2013, 10:04 PM
Magwell extension on a carry gun...interesting.

David E
June 20, 2013, 10:43 PM
I don't know maybe its the picture but I can wrap my hand around it just fine when in the holster.

You do have the magazine placed over the root of the triggerguard, but it sure looks like your middle finger would be jammed in the wedge the holster creates.

Infidel4life11
December 4, 2013, 09:28 AM
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tomrkba
December 4, 2013, 09:42 AM
BARF!

You were done after changing the sights. And that cut under the triggerguard...yikes.

It's important that your mags match the color of the frame...on the part that's inside the gun and mag holder.
Just do this and get it over with:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/funny/cd9ba9d1-8cb0-4569-ab99-15bebb5a6203.jpg

Infidel4life11
December 4, 2013, 09:55 AM
BARF!

You were done after changing the sights. And that cut under the triggerguard...yikes.

It's important that your mags match the color of the frame...on the part that's inside the gun and mag holder.
Just do this and get it over with:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/funny/cd9ba9d1-8cb0-4569-ab99-15bebb5a6203.jpg
It's carried concealed everyday, runs in uspsa and steel challenge matches bi-weekly. It gets fed through G19 mags for CCW for the range G17s. Does 200rds a week in training. All without a hiccup or a complaint. Best gun I've ever owned.
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee413/infidel4life11/image-77.jpg
Bless your heart, if my EDC makes you barf with your narrow mindedness I bet this awesome Glock would give you a heart attack

lpsharp88
December 4, 2013, 11:12 AM
Interesting setup! How do you like the sights? I've always been curious about the unmarked rear sights.

Infidel4life11
December 4, 2013, 11:45 AM
Interesting setup! How do you like the sights? I've always been curious about the unmarked rear sights.
I have a different rear sight from Warren on there now. I really like them

Hometeached1
December 4, 2013, 06:19 PM
Nice 19!

Here's mine! I have a NY1 trigger spring, Talon rubber grips and Tru glow TFO sights. Have 4082rds, 3-4 times as much dry firing and I have lost count of how many draws. Plan on installing a smooth trigger and under cutting the trigger guard.

Armedleprechaun
December 5, 2013, 12:10 AM
I'd leave the trigger alone on a carry gun...

silicosys4
December 5, 2013, 02:54 AM
This thread makes me glad my gen 3 19 came with the RTF2. I say, if the frame mods work for you, great. I can't say as I like the holster/mag setup, but thats just a personal thing.

el Godfather
December 5, 2013, 06:55 AM
Why the mag base in first photo covered in carpet like material?

hentown
December 5, 2013, 08:02 AM
I think the OP's mentioning of a KKM barrel pretty much advertises the OP's knowledge of carry pieces. I own a KKM barrel...for my range piece. You WON'T improve the reliability of any Glock by adding an aftermarket barrel.

I also despise the soldering iron treatment of grips. Frequently, my edc is in contact with my nekked skin. I don't want a rough surface abrading my skin. I prefer Agrip or Wilson tennis racket tape, both of which grip well when wet and feel a lot better than nekked plastic in my hands.

The mag well is just sophomoric silliness, to me.

I don't want a revolver-like pull on a Glock, so I don't use a NY spring. If I were unfortunate enough to be a New Yorker, I suppose a NY spring would be what I deserved.

All of this, of course, is purely subjective. It's the OP's G19. The chances that he'll ever have to use it for s.d. purposes are somewhere between infinitesimal and zero, anyhow. ;) :evil:

Infidel4life11
December 5, 2013, 11:10 AM
Why the mag base in first photo covered in carpet like material?
It's stippled.

Infidel4life11
December 5, 2013, 11:37 AM
One size doesn't fit all, it's not perfect out of the box for me. To each his own I get it. 10years and counting Active Duty MP, SRT, LE Firearms Instructor, Certified Glock Armorer, 30 months of deployments, I guess that means I know nothing of firearms. It's not meant for you to like it, it's meant for me.

dprice3844444
December 7, 2013, 01:13 AM
i changed my 2 g19c's to round g17 triggers

Girodin
December 7, 2013, 08:39 PM
I'm not a fan of either, and truly despise the soldering gun assault that seems so popular on Glocks.

Well, some folks like being able to get some positive purchase on the gun.


What does the trigger guard cutout get

For a lot of folks they not only allow for a higher grip but also prevent "glock knuckle."

I'm not a fan of modifying a carry piece...

Yes, why would anyone want to make a tool that he or she may use to save his or her life better for its intended task.

Why the mag base in first photo covered in carpet like material?

Really? Its a stippled base pad. Stippling is generally done to provide a rougher texture.

I think the OP's mentioning of a KKM barrel pretty much advertises the OP's knowledge of carry pieces.

And you just advertised yours. There is no reason that match barrels are per se incompatible with duty or defensive guns.

http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=5332

The mag well is just sophomoric silliness, to me.

You should let Dave Harrington know how sophmoric he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ViI2UWFKg See about 4:25

Remember, being opinionated is not the same as being informed.

People in this thread are bashing a lot of mods that Hackathorn, LAV and Harrington say they like. I wonder what the base of knowledge of the people in in this thread is? How many of you have shot a 100K rounds in a year?

silicosys4
December 7, 2013, 08:51 PM
So you are saying that a match barrel with a tighter chamber is better than the factory glock barrel in a defensive carry gun?

Why is that?

Girodin
December 8, 2013, 03:06 AM
I'm saying the proposition that a match barrel is per se less reliable is not true. "Better," is a whole different discussion. For most people I highly doubt it would bring anything to the table at all. Did you read the rather short article by Hilton Yam that I linked to?

GLOOB
December 8, 2013, 02:57 PM
+1 Barf, but not for the stippling, the magwell, or the trigger cutout. I like the trigger cutout and stippling. I do a bit of trigger cutout on certain Glocks, myself. The part I can't stand is the extended slide lock/release on a carry gun, for the simple fact it can accidentally jam the gun. But then I probably have bigger hands and a stupid grip. I can accidentally decock and disconnect the trigger on a USP in the middle of a string, and I need to make the slide release smaller on my Glocks. Although I've never accidentally locked the slide back while shooting the 19, I occasionally prevent the slide from locking back on empty with a stock slide release. And I have accidentally locked the slide back while shooting a stock G27 with nuclear reloads.

tomrkba
December 8, 2013, 03:27 PM
I will have to disagree about the negative opinion of the KKM barrel. It's a *good* thing. Kyle Defoor talks about the advantages and reliability. It does improve accuracy. However, I am not sure it matters for self-defense (which is why my guns still have stock barrels). I am willing to try one and spec'd one out; I just have to get the cash together for the parts and test ammo. Acquiring 1,000 rounds of quality 9x19mm ammo and a 100 JHP makes the testing expensive.

We can go back and forth whether or not a 50-100 yard shot is necessary for self-defense. In my mind, I cannot dictate the circumstances of the encounter. I could be up against guys with rifles at any distance. I may *need* to take a shot at 100 yards. Given the current trend of mall attacks, this is not out of the question. The accuracy advantage provided by a KKM drop-in barrel may make that shot easier. Once I get one, I'll be able to test and make the determination.

Infidel4life11
December 9, 2013, 09:15 AM
+1 Barf, but not for the stippling, the magwell, or the trigger cutout. I like the trigger cutout and stippling. I do a bit of trigger cutout on certain Glocks, myself. The part I can't stand is the extended slide lock/release on a carry gun, for the simple fact it can accidentally jam the gun. But then I probably have bigger hands and a stupid grip. I can accidentally decock and disconnect the trigger on a USP in the middle of a string, and I need to make the slide release smaller on my Glocks. Although I've never accidentally locked the slide back while shooting the 19, I occasionally prevent the slide from locking back on empty with a stock slide release. And I have accidentally locked the slide back while shooting a stock G27 with nuclear reloads.
This is a very common comment on the extended controls. People with normal hands don't need extended controls, I got that. However I on the other hand do need those things do to my short fat fingers. I've carried a gun on and off the job for over 10years now. All of my mine have had extended controls and I have yet to date had any issues with them while carrying. Twice (during a match in Octomber while shooting my production gun) I locked the slide open on a mag that was not empty but still placed first.

Infidel4life11
December 9, 2013, 09:17 AM
Well, some folks like being able to get some positive purchase on the gun.



For a lot of folks they not only allow for a higher grip but also prevent "glock knuckle."



Yes, why would anyone want to make a tool that he or she may use to save his or her life better for its intended task.



Really? Its a stippled base pad. Stippling is generally done to provide a rougher texture.



And you just advertised yours. There is no reason that match barrels are per se incompatible with duty or defensive guns.

http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=5332



You should let Dave Harrington know how sophmoric he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ViI2UWFKg See about 4:25

Remember, being opinionated is not the same as being informed.

People in this thread are bashing a lot of mods that Hackathorn, LAV and Harrington say they like. I wonder what the base of knowledge of the people in in this thread is? How many of you have shot a 100K rounds in a year?
Thank you

tarosean
December 9, 2013, 05:39 PM
People in this thread are bashing a lot of mods that Hackathorn, LAV and Harrington say they like.

I didn't see any Bowie Tactical mods on said pistol. :neener:

tomrkba
December 9, 2013, 09:14 PM
People in this thread are bashing a lot of mods that Hackathorn, LAV and Harrington say they like.

Just because some instructor(s) say it doesn't mean it's the answer to anything. Some guys keep telling me to get a 1911 and I've been the death of more than one "reliable" 1911. I always test a modification to see if it is right for me. Dual appendix carry just did not work out for me :neener: and red dot optics do not work with my vision correction for long distance shooting. Stippling in plastic wears down over time and it is a permanent modification to the gun. I prefer to use replaceable tape that can be evaluated at every cleaning. I'm still on the fence regarding a match barrel; it seems like a good idea and I'll certainly try it out in early 2014. I am perfectly fine with calluses from my Glock. Never believe anyone about this stuff; test it yourself across several classes. The true pros and cons will become apparent.

conw
December 9, 2013, 09:36 PM
Stippling looks nice, good and clean.

I've done most of the mods to a G19 with good results. Stippling, groove removal, backstrap reduction, undercutting the trigger guard, warren 2 dot sights, and extended controls.


Each was evaluated independently and while the irreversible mods were a leap of faith they did end up measurably improving performance. I have several more unmodified g19s I could have reverted back to but haven't.

Oddly the extended slide release actually reduced the frequency with which I accidentally locked back the slide. Some firing grip adjustments also helped, though.

Infidel4life11
December 9, 2013, 09:41 PM
Just because some instructor(s) say it doesn't mean it's the answer to anything. Some guys keep telling me to get a 1911 and I've been the death of more than one "reliable" 1911. I always test a modification to see if it is right for me. Dual appendix carry just did not work out for me :neener: and red dot optics do not work with my vision correction for long distance shooting. Stippling in plastic wears down over time and it is a permanent modification to the gun. I prefer to use replaceable tape that can be evaluated at every cleaning. I'm still on the fence regarding a match barrel; it seems like a good idea and I'll certainly try it out in early 2014. I am perfectly fine with calluses from my Glock. Never believe anyone about this stuff; test it yourself across several classes. The true pros and cons will become apparent.
Who said my Glock mods were the answer to everything? Who said it's not been tested? I started this thread on 20 June, I've owned this pistol since Feb/March I've probably got 7.5k-10k rounds through it by now. This is my 3rd 19 and my 7th Glock. Everything that has been done or will be done to it is from me shooting and wanting to make it better. And I'll be danged if I don't enjoy the heck out of this gun. BTW I didn't mention the full Glockworx trigger that I loved so much I got another one for my 34 and 19c lol.

Infidel4life11
December 9, 2013, 09:42 PM
Stippling looks nice, good and clean.

I've done most of the mods to a G19 with good results. Stippling, groove removal, backstrap reduction, undercutting the trigger guard, warren 2 dot sights, and extended controls.


Each was evaluated independently and while the irreversible mods were a leap of faith they did end up measurably improving performance. I have several more unmodified g19s I could have reverted back to but haven't.

Oddly the extended slide release actually reduced the frequency with which I accidentally locked back the slide. Some firing grip adjustments also helped, though.
Thank you for the input good to hear.

Infidel4life11
December 9, 2013, 09:43 PM
Just because some instructor(s) say it doesn't mean it's the answer to anything. Some guys keep telling me to get a 1911 and I've been the death of more than one "reliable" 1911. I always test a modification to see if it is right for me. Dual appendix carry just did not work out for me :neener: and red dot optics do not work with my vision correction for long distance shooting. Stippling in plastic wears down over time and it is a permanent modification to the gun. I prefer to use replaceable tape that can be evaluated at every cleaning. I'm still on the fence regarding a match barrel; it seems like a good idea and I'll certainly try it out in early 2014. I am perfectly fine with calluses from my Glock. Never believe anyone about this stuff; test it yourself across several classes. The true pros and cons will become apparent.
Dual appendix carry? I don't know why I never thought of that lol.

Sam1911
December 9, 2013, 09:49 PM
Dual appendix carry? I don't know why I never thought of that lol.
'Cause of that one time that you tied your shoes and you thought to yourself, wow, that would SUCK with two guns stuck in my gut!

;)

Infidel4life11
December 10, 2013, 07:07 AM
'Cause of that one time that you tied your shoes and you thought to yourself, wow, that would SUCK with two guns stuck in my gut!

;)
LOL True

Infidel4life11
December 11, 2013, 08:39 AM
Kyle Defoor shooting pass 50yds with glock and talks about match grade barrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ioCWVehtg&feature=youtu.be

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