Powder Valley Just Got a buch of powders back in stock!


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Schwing
June 21, 2013, 11:04 AM
Anyone in need of powder needs to check out powder valley ASAP. They just got a lot of Alliant powders back in stock as well as a few others. I just purchased a ton of MP300, Blue Dot, Herco and Bullseye.

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flgolfer29
June 21, 2013, 11:17 AM
I'm a little slow, Bullseye gone now..

joe

Rule3
June 21, 2013, 11:22 AM
I'm a little slow, Bullseye gone now..

joe
That's because SchWing bought a "ton":D

Schwing
June 21, 2013, 11:27 AM
LOL I don't know if I was being completely honest there. To me, 8 pounds of each is a ton:)

That sucks. They had it literally 2 minutes before I posted this.

Potatohead
June 21, 2013, 01:38 PM
Dadgum Schwing, you should just posted: i got some powder, nanny nanny boo boo:neener:

just kidding

SSN Vet
June 21, 2013, 02:23 PM
looks like the slow hand starves..... and I'm starving

45lcshooter
June 21, 2013, 06:06 PM
Im still starving for IMR4895 and IMR4064 at my local shops, but everyone and their great uncle use it. I can find most everything else I need. And even powders i dont use, but do a quick search to see if there is data.

*look at powder, look at smart phone, i say to my self ohhhhhhhhh i can use it!!!!!!, grab 2 lbs of it, continue down the line, go to the register, smiling*

gunshop owner looks at me and says boy you look happy, i say well you dont have the powder I use buuuuttttttt you have other stuff i can use. gunshop owner says, that is great!!!

BYJO4
June 21, 2013, 06:13 PM
It only takes a couple of minutes for it to be bought up.

Lloyd Smale
June 22, 2013, 08:02 AM
bring me some re22 and some fed lg rifle mag primers! !

Crashbox
June 22, 2013, 09:23 AM
I haven't seen 4320 since early March, and it would sure be nice to get some...

Jcinnb
June 22, 2013, 09:45 AM
Me want Varget.
Me need Varget
Me don't have Varget
Me about lost hope for Varget

ArchAngelCD
June 22, 2013, 11:04 AM
No offense meant but it's threads like this that are making the shortages and price increases worse. For example, "Anyone in need of powder needs to check out powder valley ASAP." Then everyone goes to the sight and orders too much power for too high a price.

Please everyone, calm down and things will improve.

Potatohead
June 22, 2013, 01:26 PM
No offense meant but it's threads like this that are making the shortages and price increases worse. For example, "Anyone in need of powder needs to check out powder valley ASAP." Then everyone goes to the sight and orders too much power for too high a price.

Please everyone, calm down and things will improve.
weird

KansasSasquatch
June 22, 2013, 02:11 PM
No offense meant but it's threads like this that are making the shortages and price increases worse. For example, "Anyone in need of powder needs to check out powder valley ASAP." Then everyone goes to the sight and orders too much power for too high a price.

Please everyone, calm down and things will improve.
I don't think that's 100% accurate. I don't think most people are ordering "too much" and paying "too much." The more you order the cheaper per pound it is due to spreading the hazmat fee over pounds of it. If you're only going to order 2-3lbs the hazmat fee isn't worth it. Order 30lbs or so and the hazmat fee is only about $1/lb.

I see these threads as just a heads up to other reloaders, just like the thread bds started.

HOOfan_1
June 22, 2013, 03:43 PM
That's because SchWing bought a "ton":D

hmmm...a ton.

7000 grains to a pound 2000 pounds to a ton

14 million grains...at 5.5 grains per a round that will give you about 2.5 million rounds

Schwing
June 22, 2013, 06:53 PM
No offense meant but it's threads like this that are making the shortages and price increases worse. For example, "Anyone in need of powder needs to check out powder valley ASAP." Then everyone goes to the sight and orders too much power for too high a price.

Please everyone, calm down and things will improve.
I am not offended and I understand why you feel that way. Driving the rampage is not my intent at all. I have a different perspective. I just started reloading this last year. Unlike a lot of folks out here, I have really struggled to build up any kind of reserves, especially powder. When I first started searching through this and other forums, I was able to pick up stuff based on posts like mine from websites that I, as a newbee, had never even heard of. I am just trying to pay it forward.

On a more positive note, I will be reloading with something other than Unique or blue dot for the first time:)

clutch
June 22, 2013, 07:54 PM
One more month and the house is paid off. Following month, I hope powder valley has stuff in stock, I'm buying for the next year or so of shooting.

Crashbox
June 22, 2013, 11:02 PM
One more month and the house is paid off. Following month, I hope powder valley has stuff in stock, I'm buying for the next year or so of shooting.

Congratulations on your milestone! There is no feeling quite like a mortgage payoff- it is as though someone came along with bolt cutters and removed the ball and chain from your legs. [/threadjack]

bds
June 23, 2013, 12:55 PM
Hate to continue hijacking the thread but this is awesome news that should be celebrated! :D
One more month and the house is paid off.
Woohoo! Congratulations! A feat very few people can manage these days.


OK, back to OP.
Following month, I hope powder valley has stuff in stock, I'm buying for the next year or so of shooting.
I have been following reloading components inventory on the Reloading Components/Equipment for Sale (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=707473&page=44) thread and more and more components/equipment are definitely hitting the shelves.

Looks like things are looking up and I think Powder Valley will continue to receive more inventory.

Beentown
June 23, 2013, 09:58 PM
Me want Varget.
Me need Varget
Me don't have Varget
Me about lost hope for Varget

I have some up for sale. Too bad you are not in OH.

joneb
June 24, 2013, 02:52 AM
And why is powder so scarce ? What difference at this point does it make :scrutiny:

bds
June 24, 2013, 10:44 AM
It seems whenever there is a shortage of factory ammunition, more people get into reloading as a hobby, for the necessity of being able to shoot or with the intent to save money (but this rarely happens as you end up reloading more and shooting more).

IMO, the current shortage has been historic and probably pushed a record number of shooters to reloading (I have seen people I would never guess to get into reloading with the current shortage). Things are improving and more and more factory ammunition are hitting the stores but all the old reloaders and new shooters who started buying reloading equipment and components are probably running low or without the most popular powders of choice for their calibers.

I haven't seen W231/HP-38/Unique/H335/H4895/Varget in stock online for quite a while and go out of stock very quickly when they do. The LGS have had them in stock but they don't last long on their shelves.

I think it's still supply and demand at work. The supply has not increased significantly and the demand is great.

buck460XVR
June 24, 2013, 10:48 AM
No offense meant but it's threads like this that are making the shortages and price increases worse. For example, "Anyone in need of powder needs to check out powder valley ASAP." Then everyone goes to the sight and orders too much power for too high a price.

Please everyone, calm down and things will improve.


I think to a small degree this has some truth in it. Along with the sharp increase in interest in the shooting sports driving the shortage in ammo and reloading supplies, so is the panic buying. While it is true buying powder in volume is cheaper and covers the hazmat when buying over the internet, most folks are buying in larger quanities than they did in the past. Schwing is a good example. He has been reloading less than a year and just bought 32 lbs of powder. 3 years ago very few new re-loaders bought enough bulk powder in advance to load approximately 23,000 handgun rounds. Now because of the internet, every new re-loader thinks they need a 40lb powder reserve. Because of the ammo shortage there are a ton of new reloaders......thanks to the internet. That's why there's also a shortage of reloading presses to be found. When I started reloading, I never bought anything other than a 1 lb jug of any untested powder for fear me or my guns wouldn't like it, much less 8 pounders. For years I generally only kept on hand what I needed for the next few months cause I could always go down to my LGS and buy more. I never used to get paranoid when I opened my last box of 1000 primers. Now I think I have to have enough stock on hand to last me the rest of my life. Yep.....I too am part of the problem too.

bds
June 24, 2013, 11:14 AM
When I started reloading, I never bought anything other than a 1 lb jug of any untested powder for fear me or my guns wouldn't like it, much less 8 pounders. For years I generally only kept on hand what I needed for the next few months cause I could always go down to my LGS and buy more.
That used to be the case but thanks to the internet, narrowing powder selection is done much faster now. When I started loading .308, I spent several months on the internet forums/resources and was able to narrow my choices to IMR4895/H4895/Varget/RL15. With .300 BLK, it was even faster with H110.

I never used to get paranoid when I opened my last box of 1000 primers. Now I think I have to have enough stock on hand to last me the rest of my life. Yep.....I too am part of the problem too.
I used to keep 6 months to 1 year supply but after the last shortage, I increased my stock to 3-5 years and used tax refund money to buy components when they went on sale at good prices.

It's the new normal for many.

Rule3
June 24, 2013, 11:36 AM
Absolutely the demand is far greater than even 4+ years ago, Now everyone wants to start reloading. They do not want to learn and do the work, just how much of this do I put in and will it go bang or boom.:rolleyes:

Firearms have returned but no ammo.

I do not see how folks who do not reload can afford to shoot. Even if they find ammo, say 2 boxes of Win white box 45 ACP. At around $25 per box that makes for an expensive short day at the range for over $50!.

So folks shifted to 22 LR, now that is like finding gold.:(

bds
June 24, 2013, 12:24 PM
I wondered the same whenever I see mounds of factory new spent brass at the range.

But according to range staff, violent crimes have increased over 80%+ the past year for our city and more people are buying guns/getting CCW permits at record setting pace and practicing with factory ammo. I guess life has priorities no matter what the cost.

I do see 22LR ammo in stock but at higher prices. I was reluctant but glad to.pay $5 for 50 rounds. Heck, I can reload lead 9mm rounds for that price! :D

buck460XVR
June 24, 2013, 01:28 PM
That used to be the case but thanks to the internet, narrowing powder selection is done much faster now.

In my case it's just the opposite. I spend the time and effort to research a bullet and a powder, work it up to a very accurate load that works very well in my guns and for the purpose at hand, and then someone else posts about how great "XYZ" powder works with a 240gr JSP. The handloader in me says...."damn, I gotta try that!":banghead:


I used to keep 6 months to 1 year supply but after the last shortage, I increased my stock to 3-5 years and used tax refund money to buy components when they went on sale at good prices.

It's the new normal for many.

Yes, me too. But everyone suddenly buying ten times as much ammo and components as they used to without the manufacturers upping their production by 10X means shortages and price gouging. Add to that all those new to the sport. Like the last shortage, I'm sure production will eventually catch up, but just like last time, I doubt prices will ever go back to where they were. The new higher price will be the "new normal".:cuss:

Rule3
June 24, 2013, 02:04 PM
It's the same as gasoline. It goes way up so we are used to it and feel like we got a deal when it went down .02cents:rolleyes:

I have enough reloading supplies for handgun and small rifle but would like some more large rifle powder and LR primers as I just started shooting more of that.

We have no LGS that sells reloading and if I find something online it has a limit of 2 lbs of powder or 2K primers. Not worth the haz mat and shipping. So heck with them. I'll shoot something else,.

Potatohead
June 24, 2013, 03:52 PM
Schwing,
Dont let the "its all your fault" crowd get to you. Ive started shooting this year and had no supplies and i heard a bit of that too. Most people understand though, that you gotta do what you gotta do. you dont have to apologize, "let your heart be glad" that you're trying to help folks out

Potatohead
June 24, 2013, 03:56 PM
every new re-loader thinks they need a 40lb powder reserve

....and they might be right

Schwing
June 24, 2013, 06:08 PM
I don't feel bad about it at all. Most long-time reloaders and shooters are nothing but helpful and are an enormous source of good information and tips. Some of the great loads that I use right now are from folks who paved the way. There is a small but vocal crowd, however, that feel that there should be some kind of mandatory second-class citizen status assigned to new reloaders/shooters and that they should somehow be required to wait at the end of the line and be rationed in what they are allowed to buy... Good luck with that. The fellow who has done it for 30 years has no greater entitlement to anything than the young guy who is at the range for the first time.

I have been shooting for 30 years now and just got tired of the ammo sticker shock. Any reloaders who feel that new folks are somehow to blame need to look in their own stores to see the hypocrisy there. I know a lot of long time reloaders. Every single one of them has a huge cash of supplies etc that puts mine to shame. I would bet that, with very few exceptions, those reloaders who don’t have a stash are kicking themselves right now and many are doing so in the form of complaining about the new guys. I fully intend to keep building up my supplies until I have about a 3 year reserve of everything. I used to do the same with my factory ammo which, in the case of .22s, has paid off enormously. Some of t he powder I used early on was a result of a .22 trade.

Potatohead
June 24, 2013, 06:29 PM
well said

hentown
June 24, 2013, 06:35 PM
I just scored 96# of WC844; no hazmat; no shipping charges @ $7.50 per #. Glad to get it, and I don't feel overstocked. That's about 28k .223s. ;)

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