[45R]

This is strictly for target shooting only. It will be chambered in .308 and my first rifle. Fellow forum members I would like to ask you what are the pros and cons of this rifle?

Reliablilty
Accuracy
Customer Service at Remington
Cost of upgrades. (Any websites on Tricked out 700's)

[HankL]

Nice first rifle, congratulations!

As with any mass produced rifle you may or may not have a good one out of the box. The trigger will most likely be an issue but is something that can be corrected easily. Even though it comes with an aluminum bedding block some bedding may be in order.

It is a fun and to me, good looking rifle. You could probably get more bang for your buck (it's a crap shoot anyway) but a Remington PSS is a nice thing to have.

Go for it.


Accuracy - Around 1 MOA new, much less now.
Customer Service at Remington-Never had to use it on my PSS.
Cost of upgrades. - The sky is the limit.

[Marshall]

What is PSS? The only SS I know of in .308 is the Model Seven, is this a new gun, help me out? :scrutiny:

[HankL]

Perhaps we should have said Remington 700P ?
Remington 700P (http://www.remingtonle.com/rifle/700p.htm)
Best Regards

[Marshall]

Ahh TY

[YodaVader]

A friend of mine has one and I was able to shoot it on a few occasions - extremely accurate! Even shooting hunting ammo I was impressed! Trigger needed work/adjusting but that is common in a lot of rifles today.

[Nero Steptoe]

Since you're just going to be target shooting, why not consider the VS, instead of the PS?? You'll save a couple of hundred dollars and won't lose any accuracy nor any quality. You will need to adjust the trigger on either. It's simple and something that you can do yourself.

[Braz]

One hell of a nice 1st rifle,

Your gonna be thrilled with the accuracy. Post a range report, will ya? Have fun.

[craigz]

I have one and I love it, but you should try to get your hands on one before you buy it. The stock is rather fat around the wrist, which some people don't like. The VS has a different stock, and costs less. Be sure you have enough money left for a good scope, mount, and rings, too. It's too nice a rifle to skimp on. Here's mine.

http://www.zacker.com/temp/700p.jpg

[Swamp Yankee]

Truly a great rifle.
Mine is one of the older box magazine models. It will shoot 3/4 to 1-1/2 inch groups at 200 yards all day long with Sierra 168 gr. HPBT MatchKings.
The stock is very comfortable, but it does take a little getting used to. Had a gunsmith touch up the trigger and its now a really clean two pounds.
As for accessories I added a B&L Elite 4200 6-24X40 scope and mounted it in Burris Signature rings on a Burris base. May go to a Burris Black Diamond sometime in the future but for now the Bushnell is just fine.The bipod I installed is a Harris LS 9 to 13 inches.
Take Care

[Soap]

I have one and I love it. The reliability is 100% and the accuracy with good ammo is 1 MOA or better. It will probably shoot much better than you will at first so you can't blame it on the rifle ;) I've been shooting rifles since age 5 and my PSS still outshoots me at longer distances!

[Fed168]

Great choice on the rifle. The trigger was the only bugger on mine, and accuracy wise it is 1MOA or better.

As for tuning it up, there are a couple shops around, mine went to Iron Brigade Armory for a basic tune up and the results are positive.

Craigz is right. Don't skimp on things- take the time and buy quality mounts, optics, case, etc.

[larryw]

You can't go wrong with a Remington 700; great choice.

Here's (http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/crisp.html) how to adjust the trigger. Quick and easy.

[cratz2]

I have a 700 Police in 223. Mine was excellent out of the box. Trigger was OK, probably 3.5-4 lbs out of the box but kinda creepy. Had it cleaned up to about 2.5 lbs with zero creep. It's a very light trigger. Have a Leupold VariX II 6-18x40 target scope on it.

I love the stock. Some don't like the thick pistol grip but it's one of my favorite aspects of the rifle. I do find that I tend to keep my thumb on the right side of the rifle instead of completely coming over the back of the grip. This is fine for the 223, and should be for the 308, but I'm not so sure how well it would work out with a 300 Win Mag.

I'm far from the best precision rifle shooter in the world but I've managed to get some decent groups with the rifle. The ones in the attached photo were with reloaded Black Hills 75 Gr BTHP ammo. Around 1 to 1.5 MOA and I certainly believe that the rifle is capable of better. Plus, I've only used factory ammo in it so far. My really good shooter friends has not been able to shoot this one yet.

http://photos.imageevent.com/cratz2/guns//DCP_1314a.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/cratz2/guns//DCP_1381a.jpg

[tex_n_cal]

Most of them seem to shoot very well. The action's basic design goes back over 50 years, so it is very well proven.

They should do better than 1 to 1.5 MOA, though, with decent loads. If not handloads, then Federal Gold Match .308's should do the trick.

I gather Remington gets a premium for the "police" model (the tactical premium:rolleyes: )

Why not look for a used 40XB? The action is heavier, and they are commonly known to shoot under 1/2" all day long. Cost for a used one is usually $1000-$1200 or so.

[Robby from Long Island]

I bought mine about 10 years ago when they first started to come out. It's in .223 and accuracy potential is definitely there if you work up the right loads.

I put a Bausch & Lombe 6x24 target scope on mine after having the trigger pull brought down to about 30 ounces.

Never was able to get used to the thick grip, but I should have figured that out before I bought it and it's annoyed me ever since. Since I have older Remington Varmint Specials in .222 and .243 which I feel are more comfortable to shoot, have a tendancy to grab the PSS last. This is strictly a personal thing and like I said, should have been more aware of it before buying it. Like many other shooters have said, if you simply are shooting from the bench you can rest your hand on the right side of the grip instead of bringing your thumb over it, but in the field this isn't necessarily the best position for accurate shooting. JMHO.

Have been told by some shooters who spend a lot of time with this gun, that getting 1/2" groups is not unusual and can be expected on consistant basis. With handloads, don't doubt that for a minute.

Safe shooting.

[Mute]

Tricked out? Depends on whether you want a benchrest rifle or one that can used in the field. Two completely different creatures. If you want one that can be use out in the field go to George Gardner's (http://gaprecision.net/indexr.html) website and take a look.

[Nando Aqui]

I bought mine about six months ago. I believe the PSS stands for Police Sniper Special, but the official model is just P for police.

Mine was just great right out of the box. I added a Versa Pod bipod (don't care for the springs of others) and a Simmons Aetec 3.8-12 x 44 scope.

From the bipod, and with Black Hills Moly Coated 168 gr .308 match I consistently shoot 1-inch and 3/4-inch 4-shot groups at 100 yds, and several times have all four holes touch. I believe it would be better, probably 1/2-MOA, with sand bags front and back, but I prefer the bipod.

You will like your 700P (or PSS)

Alex

[slh02]

According to an episode of "Tales of the Gun" that was on today, the "PSS" stands for "Police Sniper System".

[BusMaster007]

:D

I sure like mine. I put the bbl./action into a Hogue pillar bedded stock to get a better grip on the whole gun (for ME). The factory stock is still with me, along with the box, for future use. It's a very accurate gun.
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=6278

[BusMaster007]

I thought I might have to make two posts for photos, so here's a look at the scope/base/rings.

My objective to get a lighter weight / long bbl. / accurate rifle that was easier to hang on to, especially in cold, wet weather was met by using components other than what is normally suggested for a rifle of this type. Guess mine is 'atypical' then...

Leupold Tactical Mil-dot 4.5-14x40 scope.
Leupold MK4 1-pc. base.
Leupold 2.5" sunshade.
Leupold/Tenebraex ARD unit.
Weaver Grand Slam medium rings.

After reading and checking measurements 'til my eyes were bleeding, I went ahead and ordered these components. If you look at the photo where the scope is just above the bbl., you'll see I couldn't have gotten any lower than that. It does NOT TOUCH. Close as I could get. I'm pleased with the result.
I should mention that the cost was roughly half, as was the weight, of the seriously heavy duty hardware that ususally goes on this type of firearm. Again, I wasn't building the typical version of it, I was building what I deemed necessary for my use.
Good Luck with your Remington 700P (...for PARKERIZED, not Police...)
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=6279

[Kahr carrier]

Traders run sales on the 700 Pss for $699.00 in N Prk.:)

[Quintin Likely]

I've got a 700 VS in .308, which is basically the same thing as a P (PSS) except for the stock. Has a Leupold 1 piece base, medium height 1" rings and a Vari-X III 3.5x10x40...the rifle shoots better than I can, my groups hover right around 1 MOA; a buddy of mine can consistently shoot .5-.6 with it, using Federal 168 gr. match. This is out the box, with no trigger work, no bedding, etc.

She's a shooter for sure, don't have any complaints whatsoever. I've heard horror stories of Big Green's quality slipping down the drain in the past few years, but the dominating rifle at matches in my neck of the woods are 700s or 700 actioned big buck custom rigs.

[LevelHead]

I'm not imrpessed at all with the Fit and finish of mine at all.

See Here (http://www.gad.net/Shooting/LevelHead/PSS/index.html) for more details.

I would not buy one again, even if I wasn't going to change almost everything on it.

[Nando Aqui]

I believed that the PSS after the model 700 stood for Police Sniper Special, and that it was later changed to just P, for Police.

Another contributor to this fine forum said that it meant Police Sniper System, and yet another opinion was that the P stood for Parkerized.

So I e-mailed Remington and asked them. Here is their response:

"Thank you for your inquiry. The Model 700 PSS stands for Model 700 Police Sniper System and then we changed to the Model 700 P which stands for the Model 700 Police."

Just thought you may like to know...

Alex

P.S. What ever we call it, it is great!

[Gewehr98]

And I still would buy LevelHead's stock, since he never intended to keep his in it's original furniture to begin with. (As revealed on The Firing Line)

Tight groups are the norm with these guns. Here's mine (yes, original green stock, as ordered by a certain sheriff's department):

http://mauser98.com/700PSScap.jpg

[LevelHead]

Yes its true - I sold off that stock and was happy to be rid of it. The PSS stock is a love or hate thing I think. Personally it did nothing for me. Of course I should not have bought a PSS just to ditch the stock, but we all do strange things in our lives. :)

[BIGR]

Nice Rifle. I have heard some great range reports on that type of rifle when using the 168 GR. match ammo.

[BusMaster007]

700 P
:banghead:

This is from the Remington Law Enforcment site.
If this doesn't make it clear what the 'P' in 700 P stands for, I don't know what will...!

CHECK THIS OUT:

http://www.remingtonle.com/home/le_tips.htm

Welcome to the Remington Law Enforcement Website!
We hope you find it informative and educational. In this section, we will provide you with some key tips about the Remington Law Enforcement product line. Thank you for visiting the site and for your support of Remington Law Enforcement products.

Sincerely,
Greg Foster - Manager, Law Enforcement and Government Sales

FIREARMS:
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1) The "P" beside the model Model 870P, Model 11-87P or Model 700P stands for "parkerized" not "police".

While there are no blued finish versions of Model 11-87P or Model 700P models, there are still several Model 870P models that utilize blued finishes.
____________________________________________________

...hope that helps! :neener: :D :neener:

[Kahr carrier]

Yep.:)

[Nando Aqui]

BusMaster007:

I was unaware of the website you provided, Remington L.E., so I just e-mailed Remington at info@remington.com and their reply was what I posted earlier; i.e., PSS = Police Sniper System and later, just the P = Police, a portion of the previous PSS designation.

I agree that the L.E. site is probably correct; i.e., P = Parkerized, but it would be nice if they all (at Rem) would sing to the same tune.

Alex

[mark mcj]

I have the .308 VS and like shooting it regularly. The best group I've got out of mine is .685" with a five shoot group. Prone with a bi-pod and rear bag. I think 5 or 6 moons were postioned correctly also.:) The ammo is 168 gr SMK at 2690fps. Leupold Vari-X III 4.5x14 40mm in a set of Badger Ord. rings and base.

edited to note that the above mentioned group was shoot at 100 yards.

[cratz2]

I have long been under the understanding that PSS stands for 'Parkerized Sniper System'.

My (slightly less than) 1/12th of a quarter. ;)

[BusMaster007]

:D I like to pull that up from the LE site just to show that it's there.

I just call my rifle a '700 POLICE' and leave it at that.
It sounds good; it's short; everyone knows what you're talking about; and it looks good on the internet!

It would be kinda nice if the mfg. would be definite on terms, wouldn't it?;)