Got an sks problem!


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Chuck53
June 22, 2013, 09:05 PM
I was going to shoot my uncle-in-laws sks, seemed in working order, loaded 2 rounds, pulled the trigger and nothing. Waited 30 seconds and couldn't pull the bolt carrier back, so I took off the dust cover and pulled out the recoil spring and looked at the hammer, it didn't appear to have come up far enough to hit the firing pin (which I checked before hand and it was free). Here's the main problem, I have a live round in the chamber and I can't get the bolt carrier and bolt pulled back to eject the cartridge! What can I do to get the bolt carrier to operate and get this thing out?! It's in a safe place with the barrel pointed into the dirt...just FYI. Thanks!

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4v50 Gary
June 22, 2013, 09:12 PM
Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

First thing is to get that live cartridge out of the chamber. Keep the finger off the trigger. I'd clamp the gun down on a bench with the muzzle in a safe direction. Take a rubber mallet and tap the bolt carrier back.

M-Cameron
June 22, 2013, 09:13 PM
idea take it to a gunsmith ASAP.

you may want to try to soak it in penetrating oil to try and kill the primer.

rcmodel
June 22, 2013, 09:26 PM
Point it away from your head, then use your boot heel to stomp the bolt handle open.

Or pull back on the bolt handle as hard as you can while slamming the butt plate into the ground.

Bolt carrier inertia will open the bolt, or pull the rim of the case.

But it will come out, one way or another!!

you may want to try to soak it in penetrating oil to try and kill the primer.That simply will not work in our lifetime on sealed military ammo, or much of any other ammo.
Bad advice suggesting it will.

rc

ApacheCoTodd
June 22, 2013, 09:57 PM
Point it away from your head, then use your boot heel to stomp the bolt handle open.

Or pull back on the bolt handle as hard as you can while slamming the butt plate into the ground.

Bolt carrier inertia will open the bolt, or pull the rim of the case.

But it will come out, one way or another!!

That simply will not work in our lifetime on sealed military ammo, or much of any other ammo.
Bad advice suggesting it will.

rc
I like it with one addition:

In dealing with this a lot overseas, it came to me that getting those un-initiated in this technique to perform it with the trigger guard facing them was naturally a bit safer.

Watching folks being trained to practice the procedure with the trigger guard away (more natural and reflexive) more often brought the muzzle dangerously close - if not potentially fatally - to the firer than if they performed the clearing techniques with the trigger deliberately towards them.

shiftyer1
June 22, 2013, 10:50 PM
Keep in mind that an sks has an inertia driven firing pin!!!!! I say that because my first accidental discharge was from helping a bolt forward in an sks. After saying that....


I agree with Rcmodel

Chuck53
June 23, 2013, 12:14 AM
Appreciate the help guys, I got the thing out, I just took a flat head screw driver and wedged it between the bolt and chamber and pryed it carefully back, with the recoil spring out the bolt carrier just slid right back once I got it started. Again, thanks for your help and responses, I need to figure out why the hammer won't come up and hit the firing pin, it stops at about a 45 degree angle. Anyone know why this could be happening?

rcmodel
June 23, 2013, 12:18 AM
Because the round is not fully chambering.

So the bolt isn't closing and locking shut.
So the hammer cannot fall and hit the firing pin.

You have a chamber obstruction of some sort, or the round would not have stuck tight in the first place.

Look for carbon fouling, corrosion, rust, or a broken shell case stuck in the chamber.

rc

Chuck53
June 23, 2013, 12:39 AM
Thanks RC, I think you gotta be right about this. The more I think about all the symptoms and that once that cartridge was out I was able to make the hammer hit the firing pin easily. I know I'm gonna feel like an idiot haha and I'm seriously not a newbie when it comes to guns. I'm gonna take a look at it ASAP, I should have just brought it home with me tonight like I thought about doing!!!! :banghead:

mljdeckard
June 24, 2013, 05:23 PM
I opened a thread about this this morning, I have had my Yugo for several years. I get to go home and make sure all of the cosmo is really out of everything, and there is no buildup in the chamber preventing full chambering and bolt closure.

I had to kick mine open in front of my boys this weekend. Didn't look stupid AT ALL. :)

dprice3844444
June 24, 2013, 06:41 PM
just an fyi ref sks trigger http://www.kivaari.com/SKS%20Target%20Match.htm

mljdeckard
June 24, 2013, 07:57 PM
(Except......mine already has a Kivaari trigger.)

ApacheCoTodd
June 25, 2013, 08:22 PM
Here's a photo of what I was writing about in kicking the bolt handle of an SKS with the trigger guard towards you - or the sights away.

It naturally puts the rifle on the butt's heel rather than toe, keeping it steadier. There's also very little chance of the kicking causing the muzzle to travel towards the kicker's head as it wants to do with the sight towards the kicker.

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