Mossberg Trench Gun


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NoirFan
June 23, 2013, 01:56 AM
So I know a lot of guys like to bolt on tactical widgets, gewgaws and whatsits to their shotguns. Nothing wrong with that I guess, as long as you know how to run the weapon. But I wanted to go a different route with mine. I've always liked old school stuff, so when I got my Mossberg 590A1 many years ago, I always knew how I wanted to fit it out: like an old fashioned trench gun:

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This way I get the reliability of the modern internals and ghost ring sights, with the traditional looks of the old police and military shotguns. I'm still figuring a way to mount a light, but once I figure that out, I'll be a happy man.

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madwell
June 23, 2013, 02:08 AM
Nice!

horsemen61
June 23, 2013, 02:13 AM
Awesome can I ask as to how and what mods you did ?

dak0ta
June 23, 2013, 02:26 AM
I'd add some BLO to the wood and get a butt plate or recoil pad and call it good.

natman
June 23, 2013, 03:47 AM
Some wood finish, a recoil pad and a light and that'll be a very nice rig indeed.

CapnMac
June 23, 2013, 04:32 AM
Dunno that I wouldn't be tempted to replace the swivel cap with the bayonet-adapted end cap.

Which would not be as impressive as having a mount for an Enfield bayonet, which was pretty standard for US trench guns.

ifit
June 23, 2013, 05:04 AM
very nice, to be honest...I like the faded wood and dull finish as is
cant afford the real thing, so I bought a norinco copy:)

bigfatdave
June 23, 2013, 08:33 AM
I like it!

bannockburn
June 23, 2013, 09:59 AM
Looks great, especially the wood furniture.

Buck1959
June 23, 2013, 10:00 AM
I love the old school wood stock and forend in contrast with the heat shield. Those ghost sights complete the feel! Very well executed.

vba
June 23, 2013, 11:35 AM
Agree, like it a lot! That is the way my shotguns are set up (less heat shield). I have a couple of Remington 870P's with wood stocks and no attached do-dads.

My one plastic stock shotgun is a Remington 870 Express tactical with ghost ring sights and I ditched the stupid breacher choke with a flush fit IC choke.

Janos Dracwlya
June 23, 2013, 11:39 AM
I love it. I always planned to get wood furniture if I ever got around to buying a 590. Thanks for the encouragement.

Tony617
June 23, 2013, 04:46 PM
So I know a lot of guys like to bolt on tactical widgets, gewgaws and whatsits to their shotguns. Nothing wrong with that I guess, as long as you know how to run the weapon. But I wanted to go a different route with mine. I've always liked old school stuff, so when I got my Mossberg 590A1 many years ago, I always knew how I wanted to fit it out: like an old fashioned trench gun:

This way I get the reliability of the modern internals and ghost ring sights, with the traditional looks of the old police and military shotguns. I'm still figuring a way to mount a light, but once I figure that out, I'll be a happy man.

Unfortunately with the heatshield installed you probably won't be able to install a light. I have an 18.5" 590A1 and I bought a CDM Gear MTR rail that have a Streamlight TLR-1 light installed on the rail.

I do like the wood furniture.

Black Knight
June 23, 2013, 05:54 PM
Nice shotgun. I love the wooden stock. I remember years ago Surefire had a fore end with the light biult in. I wonder if a wood worker could duplicate the fore end and attach the switch and flashlight to the wooden fore end? It might be expensive but it would be unique and look right on your gun.

Mitlov
June 23, 2013, 07:09 PM
Love it! Just love it. I always enjoy very traditional wood furniture on a pump. Looks classy. A little bit of finish might be a good touch, but nothing too fancy or glossy.

The tactical doo-dads are fine for people who are into 'em, but I'm not convinced they add a lot in objective utility to a pump-action like this.

scallop
June 23, 2013, 09:28 PM
Looks nice. Light wise get a barrel band used for extended magazine stabilazation, top pair of bandings go on barrel right behind sights, bottom set holds the light.

NoirFan
June 23, 2013, 09:47 PM
Awesome can I ask as to how and what mods you did ?

Sure, it is the 18.5" barrel Mossberg 590a1 with Aimpro Tactical Heat shield and wooden furniture I picked up from Havlin Stocks. A couple things about that: first of all these corncob style wooden forestocks seem to be getting rarer and rarer because it took me a long time to track down this stock set. Secondly, the new Mossbergs come with a plastic forestock that's permanently molded around the silde tube assembly, meaning you can't just swap out the plastic for wood. You have to also buy a seperate slide tube assembly plus retaining nut to install the wood parts.

Looks nice. Light wise get a barrel band used for extended magazine stabilazation, top pair of bandings go on barrel right behind sights, bottom set holds the light.

Thanks, I'll look into it. I might just mount a light with electrical tape the way I've seen Clint Smith do it. As a bonus, that also seems like a very 'military' way of fixing a problem.

LeonCarr
June 24, 2013, 12:44 PM
That shotgun will solve about 99% of the social problems you will ever experience.

Also, thank you for not trying to turn your shotgun into an AR by hanging a bunch of useless junk on it.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Archangel14
June 24, 2013, 01:58 PM
What kind of sights are on it?

natman
June 25, 2013, 03:58 AM
What kind of sights are on it?
Those are factory Mossberg Ghost Ring sights.

VA27
June 25, 2013, 01:09 PM
Tough lookin' gun. I LIKE it!

Bill50
June 26, 2013, 01:04 AM
Trench guns are supposed to have bayonets aren't they?

NoirFan
June 26, 2013, 10:39 AM
How badly did the barrel get scratched pushing the handguard front down over the barrel? I have the guard on my short 590-A1 but it's on the bead sight barrel and even that little front sight has to be removed to be very careful not to scratch -- the thing is very hard to open wide enough.

There was some minor scratching where the front bracket went over the barrel, but that can be avoided if you apply a layer of heavy tape before mounting the shield.

dprice3844444
June 26, 2013, 11:30 AM
looks great,pachmeyer magnum decellerator pad should be added.

NoirFan
June 26, 2013, 11:40 AM
Trench guns are supposed to have bayonets aren't they?

Well the longer 20" barrel 590A1 comes with a bayonet mount, but it's too long and too nose-heavy for me. This is primarily a defensive gun so want to keep front-mounted weight to a minimum. Just gotta figure out a light mount and I'm done with this one.

VA27
June 26, 2013, 08:20 PM
...Just gotta figure out a light mount and I'm done with this one.

Do you think you could mount a short section of rail to the side of the heat shield with a coupla steel Chicago screws?

NoirFan
June 27, 2013, 04:03 PM
Do you think you could mount a short section of rail to the side of the heat shield with a coupla steel Chicago screws?

Do you mean a longer screw that replaces the heat shield forward screw, that also holds a rail section? Hmm maybe....

mattm0691
June 27, 2013, 05:25 PM
That shotgun is awesome! Got me thinking I might want to do the same thing..

Nickel Plated
June 28, 2013, 07:17 AM
Well the longer 20" barrel 590A1 comes with a bayonet mount, but it's too long and too nose-heavy for me. This is primarily a defensive gun so want to keep front-mounted weight to a minimum. Just gotta figure out a light mount and I'm done with this one.

You should know bayonets are very effective for home defense. Nothing says "get out" Like a loud yell "CHARGE!!" and you running out of the dark hallway at the intruder. LMAO :D

Also a great steak knife. You know.....in case you get attacked by some steaks or something.

VA27
June 28, 2013, 03:40 PM
Do you mean a longer screw that replaces the heat shield forward screw, that also holds a rail section? Hmm maybe....

I was thinking of using the holes in the heat shield itself. A short section of rail, such as a scope mount, might be bolted to the shield and the light mounted to that.

HoosierQ
June 28, 2013, 04:23 PM
How hard would it be to put a ghost ring sight on one of those? I have a 590 blued that has the bayo lug and heatshield. But mine just has a brass bead front sight. I friend has a 500 with some sort of ghost ring with red fibre optic front and two green fibre optics on either side of the ghost ring. That was an awesome setup. I liked the sights so much I was willing to trade one for one (and he would have to get the higher capacity) but it turned out he was hanging on to the thing while his brother worked through some bad times and couldn't part with it. His brother has since worked himself out and has legally taken the thing back. For a while there it looked like he might not get it back but he did...I am happy for him...but no trade for me.

natman
June 29, 2013, 04:39 AM
How hard would it be to put a ghost ring sight on one of those? I have a 590 blued that has the bayo lug and heatshield. But mine just has a brass bead front sight. I friend has a 500 with some sort of ghost ring with red fibre optic front and two green fibre optics on either side of the ghost ring. That was an awesome setup.

That sounds like an aftermarket sight that probably mounted on a rib. The 590 doesn't have a rib. There is a Mossberg ghost ring sight that mounts on the rear on the holes that are drilled and tapped on recent Mossbergs. The front sight has to be soldered on, which requires refinishing the barrel.

Sheepdog1968
June 30, 2013, 01:33 AM
I did this myself. Bought new barrel from Mossberg for the 590a1 and the ghost ring. In all honesty it likely would have cost less to sell the 590 and then bought a 590a1

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