California ammunition sales


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vagunmonkey
June 27, 2013, 02:24 AM
Are there currently any restrictions to selling/shipping handgun ammunition to California (other then Los Angela's & San Francisco)?

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Librarian
June 27, 2013, 02:43 AM
Not even those.

Vendors inside the lesser jurisdictions are bound by the laws in those jurisdictions. The state itself occasionally asserts rights to pursue actions against companies outside California, but there are no state laws (yet!) prohibiting internet or other interstate sales.

splithoof
June 28, 2013, 01:11 AM
If you are a California resident contemplating the purchase of any ammunition over the internet, through mail-order, or other means not requiring a face-to-face transaction with a seller, consider doing it soon. The state legislature is getting closer to passage of a bill that would prohibit such transactions, and also require that citizens have special papers (a license) needed to purchase ammunition that has been cataloged by dealers subject to inspection by the state. I suppose in the future the state might require a special tattoo be applied to the citizens forearm, much like the one a neighbor had when I was a kid.

armsmaster270
June 28, 2013, 02:36 AM
My county is a no mail order ammo county. I buy a prepaid Visa card and register it to my Bro in Laws house in Nevada then have my order drop shipped t him & go pick it up at my leasure.

Librarian
June 28, 2013, 05:27 AM
My county is a no mail order ammo county.
Which county, and what makes you believe so?

All of the city and county ammo laws I have seen are written to impose obligations on ammo sellers with business licenses inside those jurisdictions, and are utterly unenforceable against businesses outside that area. Many sellers appear to believe there is a risk selling into such a jurisdiction; businesses are free to accept or refuse whatever risk they choose, even imaginary ones.

firesky101
June 29, 2013, 02:54 AM
If you are a California resident contemplating the purchase of any ammunition over the internet, through mail-order, or other means not requiring a face-to-face transaction with a seller, consider doing it soon. The state legislature is getting closer to passage of a bill that would prohibit such transactions, and also require that citizens have special papers (a license) needed to purchase ammunition that has been cataloged by dealers subject to inspection by the state. I suppose in the future the state might require a special tattoo be applied to the citizens forearm, much like the one a neighbor had when I was a kid.
The state legislature passed a law banning mail order ammo a few years ago, the court struck it down. Not sure why they think the outcome will be any different now.

Quiet
June 29, 2013, 06:27 PM
Current CA laws/regulations:
It is illegal to sell/import/possess...
AP handgun ammo
Flechette ammo
Explosive ammo
Incendiary ammo
Tracer ammo (exemption for shotgun tracers)

splithoof
June 30, 2013, 01:42 AM
The law is different in that it bans ALL mail-order/internet sales, and does not try to differentiate between what is handgun vs other ammunition.
The court did not strike down the previous law; it only enacted an injunction.

Librarian
June 30, 2013, 08:24 PM
The court did not strike down the previous law; it only enacted an injunction.The court found the Penal Code sections 12060, 12061, and 12318 "unconstitutionally vague on their face" - http://www.calgunlaws.com/index.php/current-litigation/82-cases-litigation/915-crpa-foundation-seeks-injunction-to-stop-ab-962.html, internal page numbering p 18, lines 5 and 6.

The new bill avoids the problem of the Parker suit, as you note, by encompassing all ammunition.

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