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onerifle
March 19, 2004, 06:38 PM
Can you believe this? :cuss:


Thu, March 18, 2004


Stab-proof vests for guards nixed


By SUN MEDIA

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2004/03/18/386081.html

EDMONTON -- Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum-security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners, says a department spokesman. "If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," said Tim Krause. "It interferes with what we call 'dynamic security.' We want staff to talk to prisoners, to see how they're doing."

At Stony Mountain Institution only guards in the emergency response unit are allowed to wear the stab-proof vests, said unit manager Linda Garwood-Filbert. The unit is called in to deal with such situations as breaking up a fight or dealing with an agitated inmate.

Kevin Grabowsky, regional president of the Union of Canadian Correctional Officers, said the notion inmates might be "offended" by the sight of a guard wearing light armour is a "complete crock."

"Would you ask a cop to take his gun off before going into a domestic dispute, because someone might be offended by it? It's ludicrous," Grabowsky said.

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whm1974
March 19, 2004, 08:10 PM
If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person,"

If he isn't a dangerours person then what is he doing in a maximum-security prison?

Bill Meadows

onerifle
March 19, 2004, 08:32 PM
Methinks it's to keep intact the prisoners' "self-esteem". :barf:

7.62FullMetalJacket
March 19, 2004, 08:43 PM
Hey, maximum security prisoners have feelings too. :rolleyes:




:barf:

Standing Wolf
March 19, 2004, 08:55 PM
I used to love taking vacations in Canada.

SteelyDan
March 19, 2004, 10:36 PM
Sigh...

Fred Thompson
March 19, 2004, 10:57 PM
More politically correct crap from a spokesman who probably has never been at the sharp end..

P95Carry
March 19, 2004, 11:01 PM
who probably has never been at the sharp end.. I think I detected a ''stab'' at a pun there.!!:D

How absurd tho can things get eh? Seems like another case of pander to the perps ... and heaven forbid anything should ''hurt their feelings''. Geez, what utter PC garbage!:rolleyes:

I mean ... it's a Goddam prison, ain't it? Is the word ''punishment'' still valid or is that also non PC?? :banghead:

7.62FullMetalJacket
March 19, 2004, 11:06 PM
Canada is just following UN mandates.

A prisoner is a "confined upstanding citizen"

like a terrorist is a "freedom fighter"

or like Kim Jong Il is the democratically elected leader of the PDRK. :rolleyes:

TBeck
March 20, 2004, 08:27 AM
Y'know, they'll never get to be the 51st state at this rate. :rolleyes:

c_yeager
March 20, 2004, 08:47 AM
Couldnt they just wear the vests under their shirts and not tell anyone? or is it against the rules to lie to the prisoners too?

Brian Dale
March 20, 2004, 11:06 AM
at maximum-security prisons ... you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," Shouldn't their conviction and confinement have been signal enough to let them know that? Actually, I believe that the folks in there don't make decisions the way most of us do in the first place, or base their decisions on the same criteria.

I'd make everyone who voted for this abomination spend a year as a guard at one of these facilities. Oh wait, there I go, being all judgmental and "linear" again. Let me try this instead; maybe I'll feel more at peace with the world:

Kum-Ba-Ya, Lord, Kum-Ba-Ya ...

Don Gwinn
March 20, 2004, 11:13 AM
The real stupidity is that those guards DO consider those prisoners dangerous, and these idiots think they can convince the prisoners otherwise. I guess they're just rock stupid, huh?

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