I have been awful, awful wicked!
P95Carry
February 3, 2003, 09:09 PM
Hell! .. I am riddled with guilt ... well sort of!! Went to gun shop today to collect a check for a consignment sale of my much loved Citori Hunter 12G ......... and while I was perusing under the counter some used handguns.......................
OH MY!!!! ........ what did I see but ............. not only a S&W Mod 27 ..... but the 5" barrel version!!!!!!!.
I was standing in a pool of drool in seconds. I used to have one .. some of you may have seen me post (with a tear or two ) as I bemoaned it's loss. It has to me always been the absolute King of Smith N frames .... and that barrel length IMO is just perfect balance ... this to me is beauty personified! (more drool!)
So what did I do? Only thing I could ..... buy it!! My check was rewritten and is now way smaller ... but, I have the object of my desires ..... in box too. I felt that I was never going to stumble on another again very easily. A man's gotta do - - what a man's gotta do, yeah? (Haven't told wife yet :worried: )
They ceased 5" production I believe in 1977 and this one has documentation showing purchase as January 1977!!!!!! Musta been amongst the last made. Excuse poor pic due to flash and image compression but hey .... ain't she purdy?! Is to me.
Not cheap ... it was another consigment gun ... and I am afraid I was not prepared to risk losing it by haggling and waiting for an answer. All but $400 but .. IMO this gun is not going to depreciate ... bluing is imaculate, unlike my old one which had much holster wear. Doubt it has fired too many rounds judging by chambers/bore etc.
There we are then ....... I have been extremely impetuous ... I cannot really afford it at all - but as my son said .. it's money in the bank dad! I have to concur! Sorry to ramble but ... this is one very proud parent .... whose new baby is already an object of love and devotion. never did I think I'd find another ... at least, not when I had some cash!
http://www.acbsystems.com/pn_img/swmod27_03_c_s.jpg
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Braz
February 3, 2003, 09:31 PM
Blame it on me P95C,
I'll take the heat, heheh. Nice looking weapon and the box is gravy. Pawn shops huh? Hummm...
10-Ring
February 3, 2003, 09:45 PM
Good going! Congrats!:cool:
The Silver Bullet 1719
February 3, 2003, 10:21 PM
Very Nice, at least you can tell your wife "They Don't Make Them Anymore" :)
Old Fuff
February 3, 2003, 10:49 PM
It will be a lot easier to find more money then to find another "27" in that kind of shape. You may have paid too much, but then again maybe not. In any case the value will soon catch up with the cost if it isn't there already. Consider yourself fortunate.
chaim
February 3, 2003, 10:52 PM
OOOO, pretty. Maybe if your wife makes you get rid of it, call me.:evil: Just kidding. Hope you have many many good years with it.
P95Carry
February 3, 2003, 11:04 PM
I have been considering .... further ........ wracked with guilt still! :p I maybe did pay a tad over the odds but .. i do know that when you actually have the presentation box, it does add ''something'' .. plus the documentation with it. Could be even $50 there.?!
So - all in all .. I do not and cannot consider it a ''waste of money (works hard to continue ''justificatoon process!!) ..... I reckon I would lose little if putting it back on the market ... and good guns IMHO are a bit like ''bricks and mortar'' and real estate ........ they don't go down much ... hopefully up.
Plus of course . after losing my other one - my first revolver (of many), in 1980 ... I am in love ... all over again!:neener:
I am fondling said treasure as I write .... it is orgasmic!
Did I say?? I love guns!!:rolleyes: :D
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Oh plumb forgot ....... a bonus ... my original holster that I made for other Mod 27 . i still have and will use ...... plus, also for my old one .. I carved some custom grips ... and I still have em!! It will be like turning clock back - but better, cos this piece is so mint condition. I just feel sorry for the guy who had to part with it!
Kahr carrier
February 4, 2003, 12:33 AM
Sweet nice 27 , it even has the presentation case ,congrats.:D
TheFrontRange
February 4, 2003, 12:53 AM
Ohmigosh, that is one beautiful revolver! I, too, have let a five-inch 27 slip through my hands once. It was in fantastic shape but did not have a presentation case, just the original box, instructions, and even a holster catalog...I think mine was a mid '70s vintage...but back in 1991 it was mine for the tidy sum of only $225. I did not nearly appreciate what a rarity I owned, and I owned it all-too-briefly. It's been years since I've seen one for sale. Congrats to you, sir, and enjoy that wheelgun! :)
Johnpl
February 4, 2003, 06:49 AM
Regarding the wife: it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission;)
P95Carry
February 4, 2003, 10:37 AM
Regarding the wife: it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission Johnpl ...... I have ''come clean'' and have been ''absolved'' .... all is well! My dear wife does actually appreciate the fine nature of this find ...... bless her!:)
Litlman
February 4, 2003, 11:42 AM
Good deal !!! Take the the advice from a guy who often waits to long when he see's something he wants, GRAB it while you can , there is a guy looking for it to and he is going to buy it if you don"t.
Sven
February 4, 2003, 11:59 AM
I cannot really afford it at all - but as my son said .. it's money in the bank dad!
You raised him well.
Johnpl
February 4, 2003, 03:22 PM
P95Carry-
Enjoy the new toy! Its great that you don't have to hide it
:D
Lone Star
February 4, 2003, 04:19 PM
I'm unclear on what you paid. Was it $400? If so, and if this gun really shoots well, you got your money's worth. I doubt that I could beat that deal where I live. I assume the gun is in time, and all else is as it should be?
This isn't "money in the bank". It's very difficult to get back what you pay for a gun. But it IS "gun in the holster" and that's what makes life worth living!
I've had 6.5 inch, 5 inch, and 6 inch barrelled M27's and they all were wonderful, except that the five-inch (that I owned; it may not apply to all) didn't shoot as well as the longer ones. The only rub is that the heavy cylinders do go out of time sooner than a K or L-framed .357, and a re-timing is today fairly expensive, and requires knowing a truly GOOD gunsmith...and they don't grow on trees these days.
When you can afford it, look at getting a Threepersons holster from El Paso. Sort of goes with the M27 and the Skeeter Skelton image...
Lone Star
P95Carry
February 4, 2003, 05:09 PM
Lone Star .. funnily enough, I would have to agree re the accuracy thing ....... for some reason the 5" can lack an ''edge'' ... that said . it still shoots well for me .... and this latest one will not in fact be ''punished'' too severely.
I always shoot any and all the guns I have but .... it's a matter of degree .... and I just wish you could see and handle this one ... it is sweet in the extreme .. lock up is excellent ... timing seems spot on .... and all round, it really does seem to have been nurtured and only had modest use. My 357 loads are pretty hot . using 158 cast swc gas checks .... we shall see soon how it copes!
Yep .. $400 ... which I did go with cos of the box (and superb condition) ... which does I feel add something to the ''package'' value. Over and above that it was total weak will ''must have''!!! maybe not purely ''money in the bank'' but frankly ....... in this condition and because a moderately hard to find piece . i do think someone else would still pay close to that - I can't be the only ''addict'' out there!!
Point noted re holster but I do have one from way back .. made this (with a leather worker buddy's help) ... about early 80's .. specifically for the 27 . so it'll come back to it's first use ... here (pic below) it actually accomodates my 357 taurus passably well. I made a similar pattern holster and belt for my old Redhawk .. now gone but . Blackhawk fits that!
http://www.acbsystems.com/pn_img/357_and_holster_s.jpg
Bullet Bob
February 4, 2003, 08:33 PM
I have too many guns, but my Model 27 5" is my very favorite.
http://www.fototime.com/5F3CB629DD490A9/standard.jpg
P95Carry
February 4, 2003, 08:49 PM
Bullet Bob ... welcome to the ''Mod 27'' freaks club. Ain't that the most perfect of proportions eh? Designed by a genius!!
Ownership is as enjoyable as shooting em for me!:)
chaim
February 5, 2003, 12:26 AM
Man, you've done it. I've been looking back time and again at that picture of your gun, and now there is another one here. I was doing a fine job of resisting an N-frame .357 (and I love .357mag) but now I'm no longer quite as sure. I may have to add a 27 to the "collection" before the year is out. It's all your fault!
Bullet Bob
February 5, 2003, 05:23 PM
Hey Chaim, I like the long ones too!
http://www.fototime.com/B39D6E8D8A7F589/standard.jpg
If you want to see some amazing S&W collections, go to www.smith-wessonforum.com. Some of the guys there have spectacular specimens.
chaim
February 5, 2003, 05:43 PM
Man, you two are cruel.:evil:
Johnny Guest
February 5, 2003, 06:22 PM
About 1968 or so, I bought a factory nickel pre-model 27 with 3-1/2 inch barrel. MAN, it was pretty. I let it go, fool that I was.
During lthe mid 1970s, I found a five-inch Model 27. Being a great Skeeter Skelton fan, I had to have it, and paid just about fair market price for it. Sighted it in for Remington 158 JHPs, and was very proud. Some financial crisis developed, though, and it went the way of so many good things - - -
I've been looking for another of EITHER of those revolvers ever since. Strange--The 6, 6-1/2 and 8-3/8 versions don't do much for me, but, wow, the 3.5 and the five - - - -
Bullet Bob-- Nice stocks in your photo--What kind are they? They have a kind of Walter Roper look about 'em.
Great find, P95Carry. I'll toss in another offer to let you have your money back, if need be. Hey--We gotta help each other out, huh?:D
Best,
Johnny
Bullet Bob
February 5, 2003, 06:56 PM
Hi Johnny, they're Herrett Troopers in fancy walnut. The 5" has the "regular" style, and the longer barrelled model has stocks that cover the backstrap, and have fingergrooves. You've got to have fairly large hands for that to work for you on an N-frame. If you like fancy grips, check these Roy Fishpaw fancy walnuts in a S&W Heritage model 24:
http://www.fototime.com/277A31D19719402/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/EFF11906F72E332/standard.jpg
The model 15 in the top picture is at Roy's now for Sambar Stag grips to be fitted.
Ala Dan
February 5, 2003, 07:38 PM
Greeting's Poster's-
Very good find there my friend! 5" Smith & Wesson
model 27's are getting hard to find, in my area as
well. Along about the time yours was purchased
(1977), I had a nickel version of the same weapon.
Got a wild hair up my rear end and swapped it off
for something else; and I can't even began to tell
you what it was? Boy, if I could only have forseen
the future!:banghead:
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
coonan357
February 6, 2003, 02:47 AM
how do you clean drool off a keyboard ...????? oh that looks nice ..:D
P95Carry
February 6, 2003, 10:20 AM
''Drool off the keyboard''?? Coonan, I have yet to find an answer ... other than lean back and let your pants get wet!:D
Johnny ....... Great find, P95Carry. I'll toss in another offer to let you have your money back, if need be. Hey--We gotta help each other out, huh? I'll bear that in mind!! .. tho having now at last replaced what I had so long ago, I think this'll be ''clung onto'' at all costs. if anything has to go it'll just have to be something else. Tho, heaven knows, selling off any gun is generally enough to make me want to sign in to the nearest trauma clinic!
I must take a pic of mine with my homemade grips and post it ...... I carved them outa mahogany and put finger grooves etc .. they ain't perfect but feel good. Lovely figuring on the walnut Bob.!
4 eyed six shooter
February 8, 2003, 01:31 AM
A man can never own too many guns :D Congrats on your find.
I am lucky to have an understanding wife. I buy her a gun from time to time and she lets me buy mine. If you guys havn't gotten you wives into shooting, it's a great way to get her understanding and I feel much better knowing she can protect herself. We both have CCW's, are NRA members and shoot together on a regular basis.
Beorn
February 8, 2003, 10:07 PM
That is a fine example of a S&W alright.
Good for you!
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