.44 Mag light loads


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kudu
July 7, 2013, 08:22 PM
I have been reloading going on 30 years now, but just got a .44 mag. I have two different cast bullets available. One weighs out at 253 grains and is a lead SWC. The other is a lead flat nose with gas check weighing in at 272 grains. I really don't want to push these at magnum velocities, more like a hot .44 special. Have close to 1000 of each.

Powders on hand in quantity are:
800X
SR-4756
SR-4759
PB
Unique
Bullseye
H110
Universal Clays
SR-7625
Clays
Green Dot

I have 20+ other varieties in one or two pounds lots.

Any fairly clean burning recommendations on these lead bullets?

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the count
July 7, 2013, 08:55 PM
For light loads I use Trail Boss. Not on your list, I know, but something you might like to check out in the future.

Cartridge: 44 Remington Magnum
Load Type: Pistol
Starting Loads
Maximum Loads

Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
240 GR. LSWC CAST IMR Trail Boss .430" 1.620" 6.0 828 19,100 PSI 7.3 917 21,600 PSI

wgaynor
July 7, 2013, 09:12 PM
For light loads, I use Unique and Industrial Pistol Powder

zxcvbob
July 7, 2013, 09:25 PM
Of those, I'd probably use Green Dot.

jack44
July 7, 2013, 09:59 PM
Unique!

joed
July 7, 2013, 10:07 PM
My favorite load for what you want was 7.5 gr of Unique which will move a 250 gr at 950 fps.

I'm not a fan of Unique any longer though and now prefer Universal because it meters so much better. I now load 7.2 gr of Universal.

Walkalong
July 7, 2013, 10:20 PM
Unique, or Universal Clays.

ColtPythonElite
July 7, 2013, 10:31 PM
Unique

Salmoneye
July 8, 2013, 07:26 AM
My go-to for everything is Red Dot...

Mainly because I inherited a 'few' pounds, but so far it has not let me down from .38 S&W to light loads in .30-06 and many in between...

BBQJOE
July 8, 2013, 08:49 AM
I find 6.0 unique under a 240 gr bullet to be sufficient for plinking both paper and steel.
Although unique is a bit dirty.

Rodfac
July 8, 2013, 09:08 AM
Personally, I like Win 231 or its equivalent, HP38 for all light to medium loads in the .44's, Special or Magnum, makes no difference. But from the list of your available powders, Bullseye, and Unique would be my first choices. With Unique and .44 Spl brass, 7.5 gr is Skelton's long favored load, by increasing that to 8.0 grains, you'd have a .44 Magnum load of equal velocity. Either will keep 'em where you're pointing in gratifyingly small clusters. That's a 950 fps load for 240 gr lead alloy bullets, BTW. Best Regards, Rod

Eb1
July 8, 2013, 09:42 AM
I have not had good results with Unique. I have had great results with Trail Boss using the max loading and a 240 grain LSWC.

flipajig
July 8, 2013, 10:13 AM
Unique and HP-38. Gets my vote

Kachok
July 8, 2013, 10:21 AM
Best light load powder I have ever tried is Blue Dot, 13.7gr pushing a 240gr XTP is my sister in law's pet load, at 13.7gr you still know you are shooting a high powered handgun but the recoil does not bite at all, a bit less kick and bang then factory loads.

Eb1
July 8, 2013, 10:24 AM
Would 15.0 grains of 2400 work? That is a heavy .44 Special loading.

blarby
July 8, 2013, 12:34 PM
That 250 with 9-10 grs of unique sounds like just the ticket.....

mulyhuntr
July 8, 2013, 01:41 PM
9gr unique pushes a 240gr lswc out of my 5.5" barrel super Blackhawk at 1000
Fps.

CraigC
July 8, 2013, 02:23 PM
10.0gr Unique for 1100-1200fps from a revolver or 1450fps from a rifle.

Hondo 60
July 8, 2013, 02:33 PM
"If" you can meter Unique then 10 grains with a 250 SWC works for me.
(I always have so many problems, I end up weighing every charge)

Eb1
July 8, 2013, 03:36 PM
Hondo nailed it. I have about given up on Unique. It just doesn't do well with my Dillon. It isn't bad with the Lee powder measure, and Trail Boss is about dead on with the Lee measure.

For loads such as this I think using dippers or a cut case with a soldered handle is just as accurate of quicker than any other method of weighing out the charge.
I still use Unique for 9mm until I run out of it, but I use a self made dipper from a cut down 9mm case.

silicosys4
July 8, 2013, 04:11 PM
I use Unique for light .44 magnum loads, I think I just loaded 5.5 grains of Unique in .44 spcl cases for about 700fps, shot pretty well, very light recoil....
I go to 7.5 gr. Unique in .44 magnum brass and get just a little more velocity out of them.
I guess I'm lucky in that my LnL powder throw has no problems with unique now that I dialed it in.

Arkansas Paul
July 8, 2013, 04:51 PM
Well, 8.5 grains of Unique and a 250 grain bullet is the cat's meow for .45 Colt. Don't know why it would be any different for .44 mag. Would prolly do the trick just fine.

kudu
July 8, 2013, 06:55 PM
Looks like I might try Universal at about 5-6 grains, if that doesn't feel right Unique might be next to try.

41 Mag
July 8, 2013, 07:00 PM
If you have any Accurate 5,7, or 9, those have really been turning in some great groups for my friend and I and the load spread for each is pretty decent too. He is REALLY liking the AA-5 under the 240'ish grain loads and I prefer the 7 and 9 under mine in both 240'ish and 300'ish grain loads.

ColtPythonElite
July 9, 2013, 08:06 AM
I don't have any trouble metering Unique. It throws 1+/- for me.

CSA
July 12, 2013, 01:10 PM
I am no expert but I reload a hornady 300 grain XTP loaded with 15 and 1/2 grains ofHogdon LIL'Gun shotgun powder.

I found this recipe in the reloading handbook. They suggest 17 grains but i wanted a little lighter load because i was shooting a 5.5 barrel on a Vaquero. I dont have a velocity rating for you. But I can tell you this for certain.

The round is hitting just as well as 240 gr factory load hollow points and does just as much damage to a watermelon stuck on a 2x4 wrapped tightly with saran wrap. This is what i use to test rounds.

I have less recoil but i seem to be getting great accuracy and much more trauma to the target at 50 yards havent shot it at 75 yards yet but plan too soon.

If anyone else tries this loadout please let me know your thoughts

Kernel
July 12, 2013, 05:58 PM
Industrial Pistol Powder

????????

Bummer. I though I'd find some good ".44 Mag light loads", instead all I got was a of a bunch of hot .44 Spl loads.

blarby
July 12, 2013, 06:00 PM
I'd say read more closely :D

Walkalong
July 12, 2013, 06:23 PM
. I really don't want to push these at magnum velocities, more like a hot .44 special.

Powders on hand in quantity are:
800X
SR-4756
SR-4759
PB
Unique
Bullseye
H110
Universal Clays
SR-7625
Clays
Green Dot
PB, Unique, Bullseye, Universal, & Green dot should work.

Kernel
July 12, 2013, 09:26 PM
^^^^
Oh, I think a number of those would be good for "light loads". Bullseye comes to mind.

Mr.Revolverguy
July 12, 2013, 09:33 PM
http://www.dayattherange.com/?p=2925

44mag loads and chronographed

Walkalong
July 12, 2013, 10:32 PM
^^^^
Oh, I think a number of those would be good for "light loads". Bullseye comes to mind.Yep, I had a brain cramp :o

but I fixed it. :)

kudu
July 13, 2013, 01:58 PM
When I get done with my .38 Specials and .357's I am going to start with the .44's with 6 grains of universal behind the 250 grain cast bullets I have. Load a few and chrono them to see what I am getting. It might be a while before I get to the .44's. I have about 1500 of the .38's and about 1000+ of the .357's. I only load a couple hours a week when I get a chance between all my other responsibilities.

Lj1941
July 13, 2013, 03:09 PM
Red Dot works fine for me in 45ACP & 38 Special target loads.I have loaded some 44 Mag loads with 6 grains behind a 240 LSWC that I have not yet tried.Based on it's performace previously, I expect this load with Red Dot to be mild and accurate in my sons 71/2 inch Super Blackhawk.Bullseye from your list should work equally well.:evil:

RealGun
July 13, 2013, 08:09 PM
CraigC - 10.0gr Unique for 1100-1200fps from a revolver or 1450fps from a rifle.

I can vouch for this after test firing my 9.5 g Unique and 240 Magtech SJSP. It was much more gentlemanly than the commercial REAL .44 Magnum that I shot afterward.

MAG-63
July 14, 2013, 03:05 PM
10gr of Unique under a 240g LSWC. Nice, comfortable load.

jack44
July 15, 2013, 05:54 PM
I use unique for all the light 44 loads and 45/70 loads.

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