S&w mp r8, 627, trr8


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socalbeachbum
July 10, 2013, 12:37 AM
I'm interested in the SW 327 TRR8 and M&P R8 for target use. Wondering about any real difference between the 2, and about overall accuracy.

I've considered lower cost S&W 686 in 6" or 386 6", and also considered S&W 1911's.

for indoor range use at 25 yds.

need just one one good quality handgun with accuracy built in from the factory.

even considered a Kimber Target ii 9mm.

any suggestions? all the above are approved for us here in California.

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bigtubby
July 10, 2013, 06:00 PM
I just picked up a M&P R8 used very accurate gun I doubt I will ever use the rails. The differences that I know of the R8 & TRR8 is the R8 has a two piece barrel & shroud also has the polygonal rifling and a removable top rail and milled in bottom rail. TRR8 has a one piece barrel and removable rails. I also have a 627 V-comp and a 627 pro the Prelock V-comp out shoots them all!!

19-3Ben
July 10, 2013, 06:47 PM
SW 327 TRR8 and M&P R8

I've considered lower cost S&W 686 in 6" or 386 6", and also considered S&W 1911's

even considered a Kimber Target ii 9mm.

Sounds to me like you aren't really sure what you want. You're talking about different calibers, different platforms, and "tactical" guns, and range guns.

First decide your use. Do you want a defensive gun or a range gun? Or one that will fill both roles well, but excel at neither?

Then decide your platform. Revolver or semi-auto.

Then decide caliber.

Once you figure out the role the gun will play, the type of gun you want, and the caliber, your choices should be narrowed down enough that you'll be able to sort out the exact right gun for you.

socalbeachbum
July 10, 2013, 07:16 PM
caliber, 9mm or .38 special.

application, range use only.

may go to red dot sights this year. I'm beginning to shoot better with a red dot or laser than Iron sights. right now, undecided on sighting systems, still testing.

tomrkba
July 19, 2013, 12:03 AM
I'm not an "L-Frame Guy" and prefer N's. The TRR8 with 5" barrel is really nice. It shoots well and you get eight shots. I like the sights and you can swap out the front easily. My only concern is the strength of the frame, but that doesn't stop me from shooting it! Add some nice wood stocks and it's ready to go.

barnbwt
July 19, 2013, 01:24 AM
IMO, the sights swap out too easily--nearly shot my sight off once when it came partially unlocked after catching on a holster :D

TRR8 was my first pistol, and still my favorite. Both rails are removable, making the gun smaller and lighter than the R8. It can also fit in the Galco Phoenix and Bianchi X15 holsters. Both rails are steel, so they are more durable should you choose to use them. The TRR8 has standard rifling unlike the polygonal of the R8, so cast bullets are a complete non-issue (if they even are in the R8). The Hogue grip is big enough that neither light/fast nor big/heavy rounds I've shot were felt anywhere other than my wrist (I've shot 126-180gr; the manual states 110gr are not to be used since their increased cylinder gap blast will erode the frame faster)

The gun weighs as much as a steel J-frame (if they came w/ 5" barrels), looks twice as mean, and has three more in the chamber. The trigger is good quality (not that I'm a connoisseur), the sights clear (the brass/gold dot is very nice to shoot with). It is cut for and comes with moonclips, which are easily loaded even by hand, and which are inexpensive compared to magazines (especially Coonan magazines :D). Moon clip holders are a thing that does exist, so the whole "moons get bent in my pockets" thing makes as much sense as complaining about a gun in a pants pocket filling with lint because it's never cleaned. With rounded or pointed ammunition, the clips load extremely fast compared to strips or even speedloaders (the only speedloader --5 star--I've messed with isn't appreciably faster, allows more cartridge wobble, and sounds like a tinkerbell when you pick it up. It can also dump rounds by accident much more easily than a tight moonclip). For me, there is much less fine motor skill stuff involved with slapping a clip into place than manipulating individual rounds.

The only thing I think the gun lacks from the factory is a cut in the grip on the left side, so moons and speedloaders are a little easier to slip in from the rear. I'd also love it if someone could find a way for half-moon clips to work; those would be so easy to carry/conceal but still very fast to load--a perfect combo.

To my knowledge, no carry holster exists that accommodates the mounted rails, let along stuff on the rails--the latter is probably true for all guns, though :D

TCB

tomrkba
July 19, 2013, 08:59 AM
Blade-Tech and Simply Rugged make holsters for the TRR8. I made my own IWB holster using kydex.

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