[mountainclmbr]

Would this capture enough of the women's vote to make a difference? I am afraid of Kerry, but I think he is too bumbling to grab much power. But I believe Hillary is much more dangerous.

Frankly, Hillary's ambition scares the hell out of me. Remember the FBI files of political opponents turning up at the White House? And I believe that the fact that nothing seems to stick to her will make her act boldly on her plans.

I could easily see her fabricating a reason to go after the NRA and GOA membership lists. Possibly the state CCW lists. Then let the IRS teach these opponents a thing or two. And I think this would only be the start of the anti 2A attack that we would see.

Of course a strong showing for Hillary/Kerry could cause the House and Senate to swing more heavily toward the Republicans and tie up everything in gridlock.

Does anyone think this could happen?

[Hkmp5sd]

Hillary doesn't want the VP slot. If she runs as VP and wins, it's 8 years before she can shoot for president, even if her and hubby can keep their death grip on the DNC for that long. That puts her too old to seek the office. Plus she loses her senate soapbox. No one listens to the VP. Hillary wants Kerry to blow it the way Mondale did against Reagan and give her an open field in 2008.

[Cal4D4]

Hillary already did a double term as VP. Next time out she wants to be top dog. This cycle's Dem candidate is a sacrificial lamb to keep the position unfettered in 4 years.

[Waitone]

Watch Hillary. If internal democrat polls show Bush can be whipped, she will elbow Kerry out of the way. If those same polls show Bush can not be whipped, look for her on the ticket as number 2. She can't afford to lose as #1 but she can afford to lose as #2. In either case she will be on the ticket this election cycle.

Someone put a hit on Dean and it worked. Kerry will have far more problems than Dean because of his 30+ years of votes and speeches. Kerry's campaign staff is infested with Clinton operators, just like Dean's. I fully expect Kerry to do a Dean long before the convention. I am not the least convinced Kerry will ever be the democrat nominee.

[Jim March]

If Hillary is on the ticket in EITHER slot we have to rally around Dubya. Absolutely no choice.

[Shooter973]

If Hillary was to join the Kerry ticket, and they won the election I think Kerry would die under mysterious circumstances a couple of months after the election or the swearing in. The Park police would investigate and and nobody would ever find out who did the dirty deed. Hillary would then be President for nearly 3 terms!!!! :barf:

[fix]

JFK assassination again?

[Standing Wolf]

If that Kerry creature is foolish enough to choose Shillary Snopes Clinton as his running mate—and he is a fool, after all—she'll lose with him.

Her loss, America's win.

[critter]

Hill does NOT want to be VP.
Hill does NOT want JK to win-she wants to run next time without an incumbent to worry with.
I do agree that Hill is the scareist and most dangerous enemy the USA has at this time! She has no morals, no allegancies, stands behind nobody, no committments to anybody-EXCEPT to wind up with HILL on TOP!

[TimH]

I fully expect Kerry to do a Dean long before the convention. I am not the least convinced Kerry will ever be the democrat nominee.

Totally agree Waitone. I've been saying that since the beginning of the Democratic primaries

[RED-DOG 40]

:cool: Find where/when they will be in the company of each other then give Nightcrawler & Co. a jingle.......:scrutiny:

[ravinraven]

I believe that a president has to serve at least one half of his term in order that his VP be eligible for two terms of his/her own plus the remainder of the unfinished term. Therefore, a Kerry/Hitlary ticket would guarantee 10 years minus one day of Hitlary wrecking liberty--actually mopping up liberty--in the Whitehouse.

Hitlary hates liberty and therefore America enough, I believe, to sit out two years in the wings waiting and preparing with the blood, sweat and tears of Lady Liberty dripping from her fangs.

But, a more likely scenerio is that Kerry will "Deaniate" soon enough so that even the dems will figure him out and he won't be the nominee. The convention will be in chaos and Hitlary will step forward and be the candidate. This country does not have the collective wisdom to keep her out of the Whitehouse if she runs. If she runs, she wins. America is too suicidal for this not to happen. American voters have lost the desire to carry on the responsibilities of liberty. They will not know the mistake they are making until too late to save liberty by peaceful and legal means.

We're getting damn close to the end. The whirlwind is starting to spin.

rr

[motorep]

What 973 said- vincefostered.

[longeyes]

It doesn't matter who wins. This country is not going to hold together much longer and why anyone would think it would with the two sides so virulently polarized in radical ways amazes me. I still think there's a very good chance there won't be an '08 Election. Neither Bush nor Kerry nor Hillary can govern all of America. We should be paying attention to preserving the values of this Republic with whatever force we can muster on all fronts.

[PATH]

Hillary will galvanize democrat opponents as nothing else could! I would spend whatever money I could and spend as much time as I could working for her defeat!:fire:

[Gary H]

Why would Kerry want Hillary? She would upstage him every time.

Supposedly he is considering John & John.... Edwards and that Arizona Republicrat.

[SteelyDan]

I'd be willing to wager 6-1 odds that Hillary will not be the democrats' VP candidate this year.

[Declaration Day]

I think Hillary as VP would doom Kerry. Yes there are women who would vote for her simply because she is a woman. There are far more people out there who would not vote for her for that same reason. I'm not saying that its the only factor or even a major one, but it would have some influence.

[Moparmike]

I would suddenly find myself an ardent Bush supporter. A sickening thought, on both accounts.:barf: :barf: :barf:

[mountainclmbr]

What if Hillary convinced Kerry, or the democrat party pressured him. Do you think Kerry has the backbone to fight it? He would ask the UN what to do and would build a consensus by teaming with Hillary.

I bet that Hillary has all the dirt she needs to have Kerry conveniently impeached partway through the first term. Or she could set him up with some planted evidence. No need to Vince Fosterize him. It would be blamed on the vast right wing conspiracy. She could kill two birds with one stone, come to the rescue of the Democratic party and lead the country to her utopia.

I raise this possibility because Hillary must be strategizing about how to deal with the possibility that Kerry would win.

That is my copnspiracy theory for today.

[ThreadKiller]

Let's try this again.



http://www.stringbikini.com/babyfist_hillary_1.jpg

[Don Gwinn]

Tinfoil's on a little tight today, folks. ;)

[Old Fuff]

>> What happens if Hillary joins the Kerry ticket? <<

Probably he'd end up henpecked like Ol' Bill. He wouldn't have too do anything 'cuz she'd run the government for him .....

[mountainclmbr]

I don't think that Hillary would be a logical pick for Kerry, but by not picking her he could leave himself open to sabatoge by the Clinton political machine so that Hillary could have a run in '08. It could be a no-win situation for Kerry.

It sure would be interesting to be in some of the strategy meetings within the Kerry campaign and within the DNC.

[AnklePocket]

Only the idiots of NY and NJ would approve of Hillary. Most of the rest of the country has at least half a brain.

[TallPine]

it's 8 years before she can shoot for president
No, all she has to do is shoot the president :D

[Carnitas]

If Hillary "Key Master of Gozer" Clinton and John "Zoull The Gate Keeper" Kerry team up it will be just like Bill Murray said...."Earthquakes and volcanoes, dead rising from the grave,human sacrafices, dogs and cats living together,mashisterya!"

[TimH]

Only the idiots of NY and NJ would approve of Hillary. Most of the rest of the country has at least half a brain.


I beg your pardon..... :D

[Baron Holbach4]

Shooter973 wrote:

"Hillary joins Kerry ticket?

If Hillary was to join the Kerry ticket, and they won the election I think Kerry would die
under mysterious circumstances a couple of months after the election or the swearing
in. The Park police would investigate and and nobody would ever find out who did the
dirty deed. Hillary would then be President for nearly 3 terms!!!!"

My comments taken from another similarly related thread:

*******'s ambitions underestimated, potentially nefarious

Who will be Kerry's running mate for VP? *******? Is she
willing to wait until 2012 to make a run for the White House?
She realizes national popularity is not her forte, at least
it is not enough to win her the White House. Knowing her
penchant for underhanded scheming, she would be willing
to join Kerry as his running mate if it would provide her
with a backdoor path to the White House: Kerry dies
during office in what amounts to another Vince Foster
nightmare, whether by suicide or some other nefarious
hatched scheme, leaving ******* with sole possession of the
White House and in the advantageous position of incumbency
to win the 2008 or 2012 election.

[The_Antibubba]

Yes, kerry wants to be President, but the man's ego would not let a Hillary outshine him.
Look for Carol Mosley Brown, or somesuch, especially with the rumors swirling on the other side...:what:

...which are that as the GOP convention nears, Cheney will announce that he will step down as VP after this term, because of health blahblahblah, and that Dubya will put Condaleeza Rice into the #2 spot.

Can you imagine that campaign! Two sons of priviledge amd they're "by-the-bootstrap, American-Dream blahblahblah" Female African-American Veeps!

We ain't seen nothin' yet!!! :uhoh: :what: :barf:

[Baron Holbach4]

Andrea Mitchell: Hillary wants to join Kerry's ticket:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/21/122309.shtml

[benEzra]

Actually, I would be much less surprised to see John McCain on the ticket than Hillary Clinton. Clinton is too much of a liability with Middle American voters, IMHO.

[charby]

When she was running for Senator of NY she was asked if she had intentions of running for President in the future and if she would leave her office in mid term to do so. She replied something that she will promise NY 6 full years.

-Charby

[Selfdfenz]

Cartinas

Please give us all some warning before you put humor like "Hillary "Key Master of Gozer" Clinton" into you response.


Many of us are using computer key boards that are not ours.

S-

[csmkersh]

:cuss:

[Sam Adams]

What happens if Hillary joins the Kerry ticket?

Gun and ammo sales will SKYROCKET from the hour it is announced until the Supreme Court once again decides the election - and if that ticket wins, it will continue until Kerry/Clinton can pass an omnibus gun control act. The topic of what happens after that has been covered on other threads.

Champagne corks will be popping by the dozen in the Bush White House and at campaign HQ.

However, I don't think Kerry wants her or that she wants to be the Veep.

He doesn't want her because she doesn't broaden the ticket - she's just another Northeastern liberal. She is also deeply hated by much of the country, and will galvanize the anti-Clinton crowd. Further, Kerry doesn't want to become a victim of Arkancide on or after 1/21/07.

******* doesn't want the Veep slot because she wants to be the only viable candidate in the Dem primary in '08, and she doesn't want to run against an incumbant. She also doesn't want to be associated with a losing ticket - it harms her image. Further, she's got a much better chance against a Republican if the President for the last 8 years was a Republican, simply because people will be more in the mood for a change at that point. This is only possible if Kerry loses this year - which is why he WILL lose. Hillary & Co. will make sure - on the sly, of course, that some very damaging info gets released on Kerry just before the election if it looks close or like Kerry will win. All of the Dems will, of course, blame Bush for playing "dirty politics," but the damage will have been done.