"geolocate" app for tagging "irresponsible" gunowners


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silicosys4
July 10, 2013, 03:17 PM
Here is an app I found that allows anyone to tag anyone with the stigma of being an "irresponsible gun owner".

"Happy Independence Day to all! To celebrate, the Gun Geo Marker App is now live in the Google Play Store. What better way to spend your holiday than by exercising your first amendment right and making your neighborhood a safer place simply by anonymously marking the locations of any guns or owners of concern? Doing so allows others to anonymously view your concerns. More information on this free App can be found at the Google Play Store:
http://tinyurl.com/gungeomarker"

http://gungeomarker.org/

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Bubbles
July 10, 2013, 04:03 PM
Cool, free advertising! :evil:

The list of FFL's is public info anyway.

Robert
July 10, 2013, 04:07 PM
In the age of the NSA spying on seemingly everything I have to honestly say this is a terrible idea. So you tag someone as a gun owner, safe or otherwise, and that info is seen by who? Not that I am a tin foil hatter but why put out a geolocation of anyone really? And we complain about big brother, heck we are feeding him...

silicosys4
July 10, 2013, 04:11 PM
^^ I wouldn't think it would be an app that would be used by many pro gun people. I fear this is a highly abuseable item in which literally anybody could label anybody else with the stigma of being an irresponsible gun owner, in which there are NO criteria for guidance as to what constitutes "irresponsible" gun usage. I can see the people who would really be using this website to consider ANY gun ownership as irresponsible, hence you get labeled an "irresponsible gun owner" which carries a HUGE stigma to both pro gun and anti gun people. I could not find a mechanism in place for anybody to contest being labeled as such on their website, and no qualifications needed to tag someone.

oneounceload
July 10, 2013, 04:12 PM
Wonder if we can get one to tag irresponsible computer company employees and reporters????

Carl N. Brown
July 10, 2013, 04:24 PM
"Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners with the Gun Geo Marker"
A project of the walkingtools.net laboratory

The cult of gun politics

Posted on July 9, 2013 Standard

The project made slashdot, with an odd comment. Yes, I guess this is the same as “publicly geotag homes of people believed to belong to a particular religion”. True enough, if your religion requires live child sacrifices to appease a cold, tubular god. Other than that special case which is 100% hypothetical, it is clear that the Gun Geo Marker is a simple gun-safety project that enables parents and neighbors to understand their geography of risk. Disagree? We are taking feedback at (225) 267-xxxx.

http://gungeomarker.org/2013/07/09/the-cult-of-gun-politics/


I redacted the number. I suspect they want angry disagreement from gun politics cultists whose religion requires live child sacrifices to appease a cold, tubular god (and I don't think the "tubular god" is the White Worm of Bram Stoker's horror novel).

The developer is University California San Diego Lecturer Brett Stalbaum. There is a current member of the Electronic Disturbance Theater named Brett Stalbaum; EDT has used Floodnet to attack and shut down websites they disagree with, as well as cyber agitation and propaganda labelled as civil disobedience.

HorseSoldier
July 10, 2013, 04:25 PM
If it's really a cause for concern to anyone, you could always get the app and saturate an area that's been flagged irresponsibly with additional red flags pointed randomly. Increase the data set to the point of absurdity and the whole things becomes ridiculous . . . if it isn't already.

stumpers
July 10, 2013, 04:30 PM
I'm going to check this out more in depth after work and start flagging every residence I know DOESN'T have a firearm. I encourage everyone here to do the same.

gamestalker
July 10, 2013, 04:30 PM
So you are suggesting that we allow individuals with absolutely no intelligent or informed knowledge of firearms deciding what is, or isn't responsible ownership? I know numerous individuals who think it is irresponsible for me to carry every where I go, keep a loaded weapon at my bed side, and teach my grand children how to shoot, and you want me to let them tag me? I don't think so, not happening.

GS

Ranger Roberts
July 10, 2013, 04:32 PM
This is worse then the NY newspaper that published the map of law abiding gun owners. Completely disgraceful that anyone would allow an app like this to be published. Has google released a statement about this?

Edit: I reported it to the google "play store" as inappropriate. If you have an android phone I would encourage you to do the same. It allows you to write a description of why you feel it is inappropriate if you choose "other".

morcey2
July 10, 2013, 04:34 PM
So you are suggesting that we allow individuals with absolutely no intelligent or informed knowledge of firearms deciding what is, or isn't responsible ownership? I know numerous individuals who think it is irresponsible for me to carry every where I go, keep a loaded weapon at my bed side, and teach my grand children how to shoot, and you want me to let them tag me? I don't think so, not happening.

GS

So tag _them_ as an irresponsible gun owner since it's obvious that, if they owned a gun, they wouldn't be responsible with it. If everyone is tagged, no one is tagged.

Matt

Midwest
July 10, 2013, 04:35 PM
I saw this on Slashdot the other day. It also was reported on the alternative news sites and AR15.com, as well as a survivalist site

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/09/136236/ucsd-lecturer-releases-geotagging-application-for-dangerous-guns-and-owners

"UCSD Lecturer Brett Stallbaum has released an Android app called Gun Geo Marker to allow people to 'Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners.' The app description states: 'The Gun Geo Marker operates very simply, letting parents and community members mark, or geolocate, sites associated with potentially unsafe guns and gun owners....."

So who makes the distinction for "potentially unsafe" ? Whats this about "community members" ? What community are they talking about? The gun community??? I think not....

whanson_wi
July 10, 2013, 04:44 PM
Would every office, hallway, and closet at the DOJ get it's own tag, or just one big honkin' tag for the whole building?

conw
July 10, 2013, 04:46 PM
If it's really a cause for concern to anyone, you could always get the app and saturate an area that's been flagged irresponsibly with additional red flags pointed randomly. Increase the data set to the point of absurdity and the whole things becomes ridiculous . . . if it isn't already.

Yes, or better yet get multiple people to do it over a period of time, so that it can't be easily undone by an admin within the database.

Mitlov
July 10, 2013, 04:54 PM
This is just as offensive as an app allowing anybody to geotag anyone as a "potentially dangerous Muslim." It's constitutionally offensive (both are constitutionally-protected classes), offensive to reasonable expectations of privacy, and ridiculous from a practical perspective because there's no definition of "irresponsible" and no method of appealing such an assertion.

I've submitted my objection to this app to Google Play.

Carl N. Brown
July 10, 2013, 05:09 PM
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/09/136236/ucsd-lecturer-releases-geotagging-application-for-dangerous-guns-and-owners
At slashdot, the comment is:
I question how the motivation behind developing this app differs from, say, developing an app to allow others to publicly geotag homes of people believed to belong to a particular religion or political party.

Ryanxia
July 10, 2013, 05:13 PM
I like it just one small change, scratch gun owners and just tag all law enforcement officers and government agency employees. One can't be too careful.

Destructo6
July 10, 2013, 05:26 PM
Download it, tag random objects in the neighborhood: i think that trees are pretty irresponsible gun owners.

HexHead
July 10, 2013, 05:31 PM
Goose/gander. How about we use an app like that to identify people with AIDS or women that are, ahem, easy? I wonder how liberals would like that?

Ranger Roberts
July 10, 2013, 06:15 PM
So I emailed the link to FOX NEWS about 2 hours ago (I am not delusional, I realize I am not the reason this appeared on Fox News). This article is now on the front page:

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07/10/gun-geo-marker-app-tries-to-locate-homes-businesses-gun-owners/?test=latestnews

A new Android app asks users to expose the home addresses of gun owners they deem “potentially unsafe” -- and share that information with the world.
The Gun Geo Marker app, released to Google’s Play app store on July 7, invites users to mark the homes and businesses of “suspected unsafe gun owners … to help others in the area learn about their geography of risk from gun accidents or violence." The app bills itself as merely a tool to collect information, but it was hit with a firestorm of negative reviews and comments from people worried that it could do more harm than good.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07/10/gun-geo-marker-app-tries-to-locate-homes-businesses-gun-owners/?test=latestnews#ixzz2YgRHPBx7

oneounceload
July 10, 2013, 09:02 PM
If it's really a cause for concern to anyone, you could always get the app and saturate an area that's been flagged irresponsibly with additional red flags pointed randomly. Increase the data set to the point of absurdity and the whole things becomes ridiculous . . . if it isn't already.

Exactly, mark every single address in an entire city, starting with Brett's house

fanchisimo
July 10, 2013, 09:12 PM
Just the name is indicative of it's creator's opinion. We all know that a gun is an inanimate object so the title that says "Dangerous Guns" is already biased. I am sure that the criteria for "dangerous gun" is anything that is not a bolt action or shotgun, I.E. Semi-autos rifles and handguns.

colorado_handgunner
July 10, 2013, 09:16 PM
There is a "Flag as inappropriate" option in the Google Play Store. Do like I did and flag it for google, and explain your concern about the app being used to target gun owners unfairly. If they receive enough complaints, it may be pulled from the store.

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conw
July 10, 2013, 09:47 PM
What if the creator just created it to troll gun owners and make the news?

As crude as the app is it wouldn't surprise me.

mgmorden
July 10, 2013, 11:43 PM
Took a look at their website. They specifically list the NRA as a "political threat". Among the reasons they cite for labeling someone an "unsafe" gun owners are:

- Keeping loaded firearms at home
- "First time" gun owners
- Keeping of "out of place large arsenals" (A quote directly from the site: People who stockpile large arsenals or numerous assault weapons for reasons other than collecting are likely a concern.

These people are NOT our friends.

herrwalther
July 11, 2013, 12:28 AM
The sad irony is if I made an app (way above my tech level) to mark every Muslim I thought to be dangerous, or every backwood snake handling Christian church, I would be in quite a bit of trouble. I will never understand the argument that we shouldn't judge large group A based on the actions of small group B. But they do it to gun owners on a daily basis.

Prince Yamato
July 11, 2013, 12:31 AM
Just flag every single spot on the map. If enough pro-gun android users do it, the app is rendered useless.

REDMASTA
July 11, 2013, 03:34 AM
I flagged it...app is a joke

Salmoneye
July 11, 2013, 06:59 AM
App did not work...

"Unfortunately Geo Gun Locator Has Stopped Working"

Uncle Richard
July 11, 2013, 06:59 AM
Would this invasion of privacy warrant a lawsuit against the app maker?

Arizona_Mike
July 11, 2013, 08:32 AM
Set aside the horrible concept for a moment and look at the execution as well. You cannot flag a marker some distance from your location, you have to physically walk to the "dangerous" location in order to flag it. Also the map has limited zoom capability and absolutely no panning. The map is always centered on your current location. The execution is so poor (and so much more limited than the other two apps from the same source) that I suspect it is a publicity stunt.

Mike

CDW4ME
July 11, 2013, 08:47 AM
Mark all the Wal-Marts.

beatledog7
July 11, 2013, 08:50 AM
Any time someone wants to "flag" gunowners, the proper response would be to flag the residence of that person and list the assets he or she keeps there.

The data should be available from the federal government.

Problem solved.

Piratesailor
July 11, 2013, 09:26 AM
Just tag every address in California. It'll make the data useless.

rdhood
July 11, 2013, 10:34 AM
Just flag every single spot on the map. If enough pro-gun android users do it, the app is rendered useless.

Bingo. If I ever get flagged on that app, I will flag everyone within a 10 mile radius of me. Not all at once, of course, but over time.

joeschmoe
July 11, 2013, 04:34 PM
What if the creator just created it to troll gun owners and make the news?

As crude as the app is it wouldn't surprise me.

Agreed.

I suggest no one download this app. Based on the creators comments it seems he fully expects gun owners to react negatively to it. Maybe he's hoping to get the response some here suggest. When you down load the app and geo-position your address he can gather a lot of info about you.

I think he fully expects gun owners to download the app. You would be voluntarily giving your info to a known cyber hacker.

"The gun rights community has been busy making personal threats (we remain unconcerned), as well as spamming the Gun Geo Marker database with false markers," he exclusively told FoxNews.com. "Though these fake markers are not useful for identifying dangerous guns and owners, they are certainly representative of the highly paranoid reaction we have come to expect from any attempt to improve gun safety in the United States.

"This kind of reaction -- automatically lining up on the wrong side of reasonable measures to improve the safe use and ownership of guns -- aids and abets the crisis of child shooting deaths," he said

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07/11/gun-geo-marker-app-tries-to-locate-homes-businesses-gun-owners/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2YlsEfisT

blarby
July 11, 2013, 07:43 PM
Omg- this app is terrible and barely functions.

Blackstone
July 11, 2013, 07:47 PM
The irony is that they say this is a way of exercising First Amendment rights...

Mitlov
July 11, 2013, 09:08 PM
The irony is that they say this is a way of exercising First Amendment rights...

Slander and libel aren't protected, and I think publishing a list of people who are "irresponsible gun owners" is arguably libel.

Midwest
July 11, 2013, 10:05 PM
Slander and libel aren't protected, and I think publishing a list of people who are "irresponsible gun owners" is arguably libel.
I'm thinking the same thing.

DeadMoneyDrew
July 11, 2013, 11:16 PM
I suggest no one download this app. Based on the creators comments it seems he fully expects gun owners to react negatively to it. Maybe he's hoping to get the response some here suggest. When you down load the app and geo-position your address he can gather a lot of info about you.

In that case this dude is going to think that the Delaware office of a large financial institution is the home of a "dangerous gun owner."

DeadMoneyDrew
July 11, 2013, 11:23 PM
Just flag every single spot on the map. If enough pro-gun android users do it, the app is rendered useless.

You mean like this? :)

I can't claim this one, but somebody who lives in my town can.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k57/anerney/online/Screenshot_2013-07-11-23-18-27_zps85ab0cee.png

Mitlov
July 11, 2013, 11:58 PM
HAHAHAHA that's epic :)

vaeevictiss
July 12, 2013, 12:09 AM
What really pissed me off on that page, he mentions that people need to understand their constitutional right, then the very next sentence says how it is subject to laws and regulations... Obviously you don't understand if you think that it is subject to anything... That's the problem.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

OneWound
July 12, 2013, 12:19 AM
I'd think about downloading it to laugh at the reasons.....stupid idea?

OneWound
July 12, 2013, 12:21 AM
You mean like this? :)

I can't claim this one, but somebody who lives in my town can.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k57/anerney/online/Screenshot_2013-07-11-23-18-27_zps85ab0cee.png
Also, that poor person was just following aide given by Mr. VP Biden!:)

2@low8
July 12, 2013, 12:24 AM
Do you think that if I tagged 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C., that the White House would send out a drone to “quash” the infidel? :eek:

DeadMoneyDrew
July 12, 2013, 12:25 AM
heck, just go read the reviews on Google Play if you want a good laugh. one of them says that the user found a report of a guy near them who "Makes Rambo look like a (non-High Road word that starts with a P)"

happygeek
July 12, 2013, 02:48 AM
as well as spamming the Gun Geo Marker database with false markers," he exclusively told FoxNews.com. "Though these fake markers are not useful for identifying dangerous guns and owners, they are certainly representative of the highly paranoid reaction we have come to expect from any attempt to improve gun safety in the United States.


They aren't false markers, people were just tagging every DEA office and residence of a DEA agent just to be safe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ufT_6Kgy0). Then you have the residences of all the ATF agents in Phoenix, AG Holder's homes, VP Biden's place, Dick Cheney's home, the list just goes on and on ...

Vern Humphrey
July 12, 2013, 09:59 AM
Two can play that game. Just get the app and enter all your whacko, left wing neighbors.:evil:

22-rimfire
July 12, 2013, 12:31 PM
I think you have to be at their location to flag it. I think it's a joke and the kind of thing Bloomberg or his chronies would dream up.

Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!

Mitlov
July 12, 2013, 12:40 PM
Another thought. When that newspaper published the names and addresses of CCW permit holders, it was despicable, but it wasn't technically an invasion of privacy because CCW permit-holder records are publicly available.

HOWEVER, by publishing the names and addresses of people you think may have guns, even if they're not CCW holders (say, home-defense shotgun owners), or even if they turn out to not have guns at all, this app-maker is probably risking liability for invasion of privacy. Let's say my neighbor who I hate (this is a hypothetical--I actually have awesome neighbors) happens to have an unlisted number and address because her estranged ex-husband is stalking her. Nevertheless, I know her name and address because I live next to her. I "tag" her in this app with her name and address and a false statement that she's an "irresponsible gun owner" because I'm ticked off at her over a property-line dispute. Her information, previously held privately, is now publicly available. I wouldn't swear by it, but that smells like a tort to me.

barnbwt
July 13, 2013, 12:25 AM
Is this dumb thing still up on Google? I'd have thought the little flap generated would be enough to scare the G men (Google men :D) into taking it down. I recall a "locate an abortionist" or some such identically controversial nonsense app getting yanked down almost immediately (obviously out of concern for the safety of those tagged).

A lot of crazies think we are all murderers, too, after all...and even more thieves know we have expensive and portable toys.

TCB

Queen_of_Thunder
July 13, 2013, 09:13 AM
Well......Tag every anti gun person, poltican and rock that you know or see.

T2K
July 13, 2013, 09:31 AM
Basically, it's an app that allows one to anonymously libel people, if one desires.

"A guy that is highly prone to violence lives here, he's a total lunatic and terrorist."

How about:

"A guy that molests his children and does and deals heroin lives here."

conw
July 13, 2013, 01:31 PM
I think you have to be at their location to flag it. I think it's a joke and the kind of thing Bloomberg or his chronies would dream up.

Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!

There are apps in Google Play Store that allow you to spoof your GPS location.

DeadMoneyDrew
July 13, 2013, 02:02 PM
There are apps in Google Play Store that allow you to spoof your GPS location.

My Fake Location. works like a charm!

DeadMoneyDrew
July 13, 2013, 02:03 PM
it looks like they are trying to combat the fake postings. they are now limiting you to one marking per 24 hours.

I use my posting for today for my fellow citizens of the dangerous cache of weapons at the Denny's next to where I am currently eating, and about how I get the feeling that the customers over there about to come over here throw down with the Subway customers.

Queen_of_Thunder
July 13, 2013, 03:04 PM
The perfect app for a flash mob made up of firearm owners.

TennJed
July 13, 2013, 03:18 PM
I flagged it. Also noticed it has a 1 star rating. Over 2,000 1 one star votes compared to 40 five star

StorminNormin
July 13, 2013, 03:18 PM
Two thought quickly come to mind:
1) No worries: next to no one is going to download or use this app.
2) System easily foiled by folks simply tagging every home as a gun owning home....then app is useless!

No realistic worry here...if this app is even real.

19-3Ben
July 13, 2013, 03:34 PM
Basically, it's an app that allows one to anonymously libel people, if one desires.

My thoughts exactly. My initial reaction to this is to wonder how long before a law abiding gun owner files suit for libel. I'm sure there has to be some way to trace the person who posted. Might have to subpoena the records from the company that put out the app, but hey, civil litigation isn't my field of law so I don't profess to have any expertise in it.

barnbwt
July 14, 2013, 10:56 AM
Basically, it's an app that allows one to anonymously libel people, if one desires.


The Internet, circa ~1990, right? :D

Seriously, though; why hasn't the app been taken down by Playstore admins, yet? They're the ones who need to be making the call, and taking the heat; not some random agitator who said something on the internet. The massive number of people reporting the app, its lack of legitimate utility, and obvious potential for abuse all indicate it should be struck from Google's servers if they value their reputation.

TCB

gfanikf
July 14, 2013, 06:28 PM
The Internet, circa ~1990, right? :D

Seriously, though; why hasn't the app been taken down by Playstore admins, yet? They're the ones who need to be making the call, and taking the heat; not some random agitator who said something on the internet. The massive number of people reporting the app, its lack of legitimate utility, and obvious potential for abuse all indicate it should be struck from Google's servers if they value their reputation.

TCB

Inertia, trust me apps that openly infringe copyright can take time to remove and thats with a rights owner reporting it. Apps just getting user reports is going to take a while.

Comedy question has the Biden's residencies beeb tagged yet? lol

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MErl
July 14, 2013, 06:41 PM
Seriously, though; why hasn't the app been taken down by Playstore admins, yet? They're the ones who need to be making the call, and taking the heat; not some random agitator who said something on the internet. The massive number of people reporting the app, its lack of legitimate utility, and obvious potential for abuse all indicate it should be struck from Google's servers if they value their reputation.

The app is offensive to a group of people and so it should be removed? I'd rather Google only removed stuff which was illegal or dangerous. Leave the morailty to the users.

W.E.G.
July 14, 2013, 06:58 PM
I sense a "fire mission."

TennJed
July 14, 2013, 08:19 PM
The app is offensive to a group of people and so it should be removed? I'd rather Google only removed stuff which was illegal or dangerous. Leave the morailty to the users.

I agree but google has and does take down "offensive" apps. Until they change their policy they should treat this one the same as the others

Vern Humphrey
July 14, 2013, 08:21 PM
They should leave it up -- we can use it.:evil:

DeadMoneyDrew
July 14, 2013, 09:45 PM
Comedy question has the Biden's residencies beeb tagged yet? lol

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Yep. :p I posted this screenshot a few days ago and didn't realize at the time that this is Biden's house. I thought they lived further south than this.

You mean like this? :)

I can't claim this one, but somebody who lives in my town can.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k57/anerney/online/Screenshot_2013-07-11-23-18-27_zps85ab0cee.png

DeadMoneyDrew
July 15, 2013, 11:32 AM
HA. Turns out this dude is just a massive troll. The app has been shut down and the site now shows this message:

What is the Gun Geo Marker?

It is two things. First, it is a speculative design experiment “in the wild” that is to suss out what the parameters of a successful gun safety app might be. For example, the experiment showed that there is great potential for “local use only” mapping applications, or using GPS to constrain use of mapping interfaces only to the place in which one stands.

This has applications for public data of a sensitive nature as it disallows arbitrary global browsing, keeping all information into its local context. Also, the ontology for marking dangerous guns owners feels like an excellent start.

An aspect of the project which did not work – nor did I expect it to in this particular case – was the use of anonymous marking of sites. Simply stated, the project suffered numerous hacking attacks that filled the database with false info, not to mention that anti-gun-safety types have also used the app itself as a tool for mischief. It is both sad to see, but also something that I grudgingly admit I have a certain level of respect for as an electronic activist myself. The issues of hacking and intentionally false data might be solved by an organization with sufficient resources through using authentication and some type of verification regimen to ensure the data is of high quality.

Secondly, the App was a honeypot. As a gun owner myself, I am all too aware of a smaller component of the community that sees any attempt at improving gun safety as an affront to their second amendment rights. Reasonable regulations that do not interfere with anyone’s second amendment rights – such as universal background checks and trigger locks when guns are unattended in the presence of children – are needed to help abate the gun violence epidemic in this country. But some places in the United States seem committed to going in the opposite direction, as in Florida where a law was passed preventing medical doctors from asking about gun safety in the home as they might about swimming pool safety.

So, the project is also a culture-jamming exercise intended to draw out earnest expressions from the radical anti-gun-safety community, expressions that will now become part of a second phase of the project which involves aesthetic manifestations. The app itself will remain online for a time so that people can play with the user interface, after which it will morph into a purely “documentation” application about the project.

Brett Stalbaum

MErl
July 15, 2013, 11:50 AM
An aspect of the project which did not work – nor did I expect it to in this particular case – was the use of anonymous marking of sites. Simply stated, the project suffered numerous hacking attacks that filled the database with false info, not to mention that anti-gun-safety types have also used the app itself as a tool for mischief. It is both sad to see, but also something that I grudgingly admit I have a certain level of respect for as an electronic activist myself. The issues of hacking and intentionally false data might be solved by an organization with sufficient resources through using authentication and some type of verification regimen to ensure the data is of high quality.

So what exactly is a "anti-gun-safety" type?

Is it someone who is against the NRA (not the NRA-ILA)? You know that organization that has standardized courses in safe firearm use?

Is it someone who believes that inaccessible or locked firearms are of marginal use in a defense situation? Is it someone that believes that even children should be able to defend themselves? (after all, a 17yr old high school senior is still a child)

Or is it just a "When did you stop beating your wife?" term designed to portray anyone that argues against him as a monster.

Vern Humphrey
July 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
HA. Turns out this dude is just a massive troll. The app has been shut down and the site now shows this message:
I understand he's gone back to his usual occupation of hiding under a bridge and waiting for the Three Billy Goats Gruff.;)

rdhood
July 15, 2013, 04:26 PM
The issues of hacking and intentionally false data might be solved by an organization with sufficient resources through using authentication and some type of verification regimen to ensure the data is of high quality.


And with that "high quality" data using "authentication" and "verification", both the reporter (of libelous/slanderous info) and the company that collects and distributes such info, can be sued.

Vern Humphrey
July 15, 2013, 04:43 PM
And just how can you tell the data is "high quality?"

If I say my neighbor is a dangerous nutcase with a gun, you can verify who I am, you can verify I live near him. You can verify that's his address.

But the one thing you cannot verify is my claim that he's "a dangerous nutcase with a gun."

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 15, 2013, 05:33 PM
Two can play that game. Just get the app and enter all your unarmed whacko, left wing neighbors.

Fixed that for you ;)

This app wouldn't work too well.

DeadMoneyDrew
July 15, 2013, 10:57 PM
And just how can you tell the data is "high quality?"

If I say my neighbor is a dangerous nutcase with a gun, you can verify who I am, you can verify I live near him. You can verify that's his address.

You can't even verify any of that with this app, as crappy as it was. As someone posted before, GPS locations are easily spoofed. I spoofed mine and looked at this app's reports from the opposite coast.

Even the highest-quality location based apps in Google Play are susceptible to GPS location spoofing.

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