Cheaper Than Dirt Ammo Prices


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kokapelli
July 10, 2013, 08:40 PM
Just received a Cheaper Than Dirt catalog #607 and was shocked at their ammo prices! These are the prices in the CTD Flyer for 9mm, 115gr FMJ.

American Eagle FMJ 115gr 9mm, for 50 rounds $59.59

PMC Bronze FMJ 95gr 380, for 50 rounds $59.59

Speer Lawman FMJ 115gr 9mm, for 50 rounds $49.59

I just ordered 1000 rounds of New 115gr 9mm from freedom Munitions for $339.99 which leads me to believe CTD is ripping us off at their prices.

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Hanzo581
July 10, 2013, 08:43 PM
I was already never going to buy anything from them for their pricing strategy in the past. This just confirms it.

atomd
July 10, 2013, 08:45 PM
I stopped shopping there in 2008 and I will never visit their site again. I believe in the free market and they can charge whatever they want....but because of their ridiculous pricing I will not give them my business. They were selling pmags for $100 each earlier this year. I bought pmags the same day I saw them for $100 on CTD for $20 elsewhere and just $13 recently. Also, their shipping policies are crazy too. You can order different items and get hit with multiple charges because they ship them from different warehouses. I don't know of any other company that does that.

I make sure to tell everyone I know not to shop there also. They might laugh their way to the bank here and there but in the end it's going to cost them tons of customers.

skoro
July 10, 2013, 08:48 PM
shocked at their ammo prices!


Those prices are totally consistent with CTD practices.

Avoid them. They're bad news. Very bad news. :scrutiny:

Wishoot
July 10, 2013, 08:54 PM
I can't say bad enough things about CTD. I'd rather run out of ammo and throw rocks and sticks at targets than give them a penny.

vont01
July 10, 2013, 09:37 PM
Don't know what page it was, I threw the catalog out, but $249.49 for a brick (550) rds of 22lr. Talk about GOUGING!

Hunter991
July 10, 2013, 09:42 PM
Yep, ever since the shortage started they jacked their prices so high compared to just about anyone else. Never buy there again.

tarosean
July 10, 2013, 09:56 PM
Why anyone even bothers to look at that place anymore is beyond me....

JoeMal
July 10, 2013, 10:17 PM
During the AR panic they were selling a $600 S&W MP15 for $2000.

Sad thing is... They wouldn't charge this much if it wasn't successful. Obviously someone is buying it

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orionengnr
July 10, 2013, 10:31 PM
They only left out one initial.
Should be CTGD--Cheaper Than Gold Dust.

Jaymo
July 11, 2013, 12:10 AM
I have a buddy who works for a pawn/gun shop that has been gouging since the panic started. They're selling SR9s for $60.00 ABOVE Ruger's suggested retail.
Their Glock prices are much higher than that.
His justification for it was "If they didn't charge that much, they'd be out of stock in a couple of days. Then, they'd be a slingshot store."
Sure, some excuse for raping customers is better than none.
They don't even include any Vaseline.

BamAlmighty
July 11, 2013, 12:16 AM
I can't fault them for preying on stupid people nor do I have any sympathy for the stupid people.

But I will never do business with them.

jrdolall
July 11, 2013, 01:14 AM
CTD has been gouging just like every other online retailer since December. It absolutely amazes me that people would pay such a high price for .22 plinking ammo. I understand if you need a box of 50 just to HAVE some on hand but why pay stupid prices for a large quantity? I have not seen a single online retailer offering pre-panic prices on ammo. Midway has some .22 bricks for $35-$40 today which is double what they should be but everyone seems to think Larry can do no wrong. Don't tell me that their actual cost has doubled.

I have used CTD in the past with no issues. You do have to be careful and make sure everything you buy is coming from the same warehouse but it is pretty obvious on their web page.

MaterDei
July 11, 2013, 01:21 AM
They are dead to me and I told them so at the NRA Annual Meeting this year.

Fishbed77
July 11, 2013, 01:34 AM
CTD's business model is entirely based on thinking you are too stupid to shop elsewhere.

bds
July 11, 2013, 02:18 AM
We have been shopping elsewhere. Why pay more than you have to? Here are some recent prices of ammo:

MidwayUSA - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9013340#post9013340

- 22LR 40 gr Aguila LRN 500 / $28.99
- 22LR 40 gr Aguila Subsonic LRN 500 / $33.49
- 22LR 30 gr Aguila Super HP 500 / $39.99
- 22LR 40 gr Winchester Super-X Subsonic HP 500 / $42.99


Killough Shooting Sports - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9011393#post9011393

22LR 40 gr Eley Target lead RN 50 / $5.50


Gamaliel Shooting Supply - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9009676#post9009676

22LR 42 gr Gemtech Subsonic LRN 50 / $4.95


Cabela's - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9005694#post9005694

22LR 40 gr Federal Lead RN 50 / $4.99


SG Ammo - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9009434#post9009434

30 Round 5.56mm AR15 Troy Battle Mag $11.95 (10+ $10.95) - http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/special-purchase-sale-30-round-556mm-ar15-troy-battle-mag-packaging-may-vary-picture

30 Round 5.56mm AR15 Generation 2 P-Mag by Magpul $11.95 (10+ $10.95) - http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/30-round-556mm-ar15-generation-2-p-mag-magpul-special-purchase-price

223 ammo - http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/223-556mm


9x18 Makarov 95 gr Hornady FTX HP Critical Defense 25 / $18.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/hornady/25-round-box-9x18-makarov-hornady-95-grain-ftx-hollow-point-critical-defense-ammo-91

38Special +P 125 gr Remington Golden Saber BJHP 25 / $15.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/25-round-box-38-special-p-remington-golden-saber-125-grain-bjhp-brass-jacketed-hol

Other 38Spl ammo - http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammunition/38-special


9mm 115 gr Speer Gold Dot HP 50 / $29.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer/50-round-box-9mm-luger-speer-gold-dot-115-grain-hollow-point-le-ammo-53614

9mm 124 gr Federal HST HP 20 / $23.95

9mm 147 gr Federal HST HP 50 / $29.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/50-round-box-9mm-luger-federal-hst-147-grain-hollow-point-le-ammo-p9hst2


40S&W 155 gr Federal American Eagle FMJ 50 / $21.95

40S&W 165 gr Speer Gold Dot HP 50 / $33.95

40S&W 175 gr Hornady Critical Duty FlexLock 20 / $18.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/hornady/20-round-box-40-cal-critical-duty-175-grain-flexlock-hollow-point-91376

40S&W 175 gr Hornady Critical Duty HP 50 / $33.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/hornady/50-rd-box-40-cal-175-grain-hornady-critical-duty-le-ammo-91375#

40S&W 180 gr Remington Ultimate Home Defense HP 20 / $18.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/20-round-box-40-cal-180-grain-brass-jacketed-hollow-point-remington-ultimate-home-

40S&W 180 gr Federal HST HP 50 / $32.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/50-round-box-40-hst-180-grain-federal-hollow-point-ammo-p40hst1

40S&W 180 gr Remingtion HTP HP 50 / $33.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/50-round-box-40-cal-sw-180-grain-remingtion-htp-hollow-point-ammo-rtp40sw2


45Auto 165 gr Federal Hydra-Shok HP 20 / $23.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/20-round-box-45-auto-165-grain-hydra-shok-hollow-point-ammo-federal-pd45hs3h

45Auto 185 gr PMC JHP 50 / $29.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/pmc/50-round-box-45-auto-acp-pmc-185-grain-jhp-hollow-point-ammo-45b

45Auto 185 gr Remington Golden Saber BJHP 25 / $16.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/25-round-box-45-auto-remington-golden-saber-185-grain-bjhp-brass-jacketed-hollow-p

45Auto 185 gr Speer Gold Dot HP 50 / $32.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer/50-round-box-45-auto-speer-gold-dot-185-grain-gdhp-ammo-53964

45Auto 200 gr Hornady Custom XTP HP 20 / $15.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/hornady/20-round-box-45-auto-200-grain-xtp-hollow-point-hornady-custom-ammo-9112

45Auto 230 gr Winchester FMJ 100 / $49.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/winchester/100-round-box-45-auto-acp-winchester-230-grain-fmj-usa45avp

45Auto 230 gr Remington HTP HP 50 / $38.95 - http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/50-round-box-45-auto-230-grain-high-terminal-performance-jacketed-hollow-point-rem

wally
July 11, 2013, 12:02 PM
I grow weary of these CTD bashing threads, I've seen worse prices at gun shows. Chuckle and move along, pity the fool who is that desperate or doesn't know any better.

There is asking price and selling price, when the asking price isn't met, eventually it will come down to what the market supports. Unfortunately as the prices listed above show selling prices are still 50-100% higher than eight months ago. A few random clicks on the links above showed most were out of stock so I doubt prices will come down much anytime soon. :(

I've bought from CTD in the past when they had the best in stock price on what I needed, and I'll do so again if it ever happens. In the meantime their catalogs are good for a laugh, and I enjoy their Jerry Micluk "shoot fast" videos.

Browns Fan
July 11, 2013, 12:41 PM
I did not know that dirt was so expensive!

351 WINCHESTER
July 11, 2013, 01:09 PM
I hope they go out of business and someone buys all their inventory and sells it for a fair price. They don't deserve to stay in business and quite frankly with their prices I can't imagine anyone buying ammo from them.

j1
July 11, 2013, 01:44 PM
I have been ripped off but only because I was ignorant of what I should have asked for what I was selling.

talspaugh27
July 11, 2013, 01:53 PM
I don't hold much loyalty for any online retailer that isn't blowing away B&M prices, I would rather drive down the street and go see my Local gunshop owner then order online for the same price ( and I am a Sr Software Engineer for those that would accuse me of being a technophobe) I do use gunbot quite a bit to find the best ammo prices online but I still will pick up some locally if I cant save a lot on the purchase going over the net.
That being said I do get CTD (Costlier then Diamonds) catalogs and decided I would never purchase anything from them when they just started sending catalogs with no prices in them at all, sorry that was just ridiculous.

Charger442
July 11, 2013, 02:00 PM
i have less a problem with what they charge for their ammo, (its their store, and their business and if it keeps the doors open and making money then ok) but i wont support them for the **** they pulled right after Sandy Hook by pulling and halting online gun sales and caving to the political pressure to do so.

all they did was give more fuel to those calling for gun control and to stop online gun sales.

For that, they will forever be irreconcilable with my online buying practices and I hope they go out of business for biting the hand that feeds them.

basicblur
July 11, 2013, 02:08 PM
Why anyone even bothers to look at that place anymore is beyond me....
It's called comic relief! :D

With my recent (first and last order) snafu, apparently I'm now on their mailing list. When I got their catalog, I couldn't help but laugh harder with each flip of the page!

As my experience with them taught me, despite what you may think of their pricing practices, that is the least of their problems...

Shadow 7D
July 11, 2013, 02:14 PM
I love it when people post about gougers

LETS NOT FORGET
Cheaper than gold
home of the $90 box of .380.....

diablo2184
July 11, 2013, 10:51 PM
During the AR panic they were selling a $600 S&W MP15 for $2000.

Sad thing is... They wouldn't charge this much if it wasn't successful. Obviously someone is buying it

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This is exactly why they do it. idiots are still buying at this price. if we could all go one month without buying from them when they get stocked up, they would drop it immediately so it didnt sit in their warehouse

jrdolall
July 11, 2013, 11:13 PM
Any company that puts out a regular catalog during times of rapid price swings is bound to have issues. if they are too low they will sell out quickly and people that didn't get any will accuse them of cheating. If they are too high they will sell a little and people will accuse them of gouging. Catalog sales are best for static cost items or very short time periods with the "while supplies last" logo.
I personally think CTD should have suspended the catalogs for a while and sent emails to their list explaining the situation. I always just toss them anyway since everything is online.

capcyclone
July 12, 2013, 12:34 AM
Actually, I personally still enjoy receiving the paper catalogs in the mail. I guess I'm just old school. Though I do a lot of buying on the internet, I still enjoy looking at paper catalogs too.

Don't get me wrong, I'd never purchase from CTD again. Their prices are crazy. But, that doesn't stop me from finding what I want in their catalog and then finding a cheaper supplier somewhere else. I say :neener: to CTD.

LeonCarr
July 12, 2013, 12:45 AM
I remember back in the early 90s when the founder of CTD, Michael Tenny, would set up by himself at the Houston area gun shows with one table selling Norinco 7.62x39. His business card said "Sporting Goods Liquidator".

It is unfortunate that with the explosive growth of his company come business practices like the price gouging CTD is now infamous for.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

TennJed
July 12, 2013, 01:31 AM
Actually, I personally still enjoy receiving the paper catalogs in the mail. I guess I'm just old school. Though I do a lot of buying on the internet, I still enjoy looking at paper catalogs too.

Don't get me wrong, I'd never purchase from CTD again. Their prices are crazy. But, that doesn't stop me from finding what I want in their catalog and then finding a cheaper supplier somewhere else. I say :neener: to CTD.
After dropping a couple of phones in the toilet, i quit browsing the net while on the throne. Paper catalogs still have their place

481
July 12, 2013, 02:15 AM
After dropping a couple of phones in the toilet, i quit browsing the net while on the throne. Paper catalogs still have their place

Especially once you are done on the throne. :evil:

eastbank
July 12, 2013, 07:47 AM
i just picked up tula .380 brass cased boxer primed FMJ non corr made in italy for 14.99 at walmart in the afternoon. my wife was with me and we bought 6 boxes. so maybe the ammo shortage may be easing up some. eastbank.

Pyzon
July 12, 2013, 11:36 AM
Keep in mind the time lag between when the info in the catalog is submitted and when it shows up in the mail. It could be 8 weeks or maybe more.

Not that I find the CTD prices acceptable online either, but so far, this is still America, and I am free to buy or not, when and where I choose.

And lately I am choosing to buy no ammo.

Arkansas Paul
July 12, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oh, is it already time for our hourly CTD thread?

Rembrandt
July 12, 2013, 12:44 PM
I did not know that dirt was so expensive!

"Cheap as Dirt" disappeared long ago when Iowa farm land started going for $15,000 plus an acre. Guess increased ammo prices were bound to follow suit.

wally
July 12, 2013, 12:50 PM
Just got an Email form them this morning, perhaps the market for gouging is collapsing:

Del-Ton stripped AR15 lower $99

30 rounds American eagle XM193 55gr on strippers $15.19


I buy on current price and availability, not prices when out of stock or times the market is panic crazy.

jrdolall
July 12, 2013, 01:49 PM
Yep the email I got this morning has DPMS AR-15s for $659 or so. Don't recall since I dumped the email but that is about the right price, give or take a few bucks, for that base model. I bought one a year ago for $599 locally so even after taxes it was much cheaper than having it shipped and paying an FFL transfer fee. Bushmaster and Colt were also only slightly higher than a year ago.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel(I hope). CTD will continue to get bashed and will continue to do business. I have never had a single problem with them but I haven't placed an order since sometime last summer. Their strategy during this shortage may not set well with people but I imagine they will continue to thrive.

peacebutready
July 12, 2013, 03:34 PM
Won't do business with them either. I got nailed on shipping in the past when two calibers had to come from different "warehouses". There was also a "handling" fee.

A number of months ago they wanted over $100 for a black rifle magazine.

smalls
July 13, 2013, 04:21 PM
You mean to tell me that the government just lets them set their own price for the items they sell? And that they don't stop them from over charging?

Say it ain't so!

Find somewhere else to shop. People will remember their high prices even when the ammo thing gets back to normal.

atomd
July 13, 2013, 09:44 PM
Find somewhere else to shop. People will remember their high prices even when the ammo thing gets back to normal.


EXACTLY. That's why they are the pariah of the gun world. Maybe they follow the "there's a sucker born every minute" style of business. Unfortunately for them, the internet makes it real easy to read up and shop around. Consumers are getting smarter and smarter......and they are still focusing on ripping off a rube here and there for a few extra bucks.

Kiln
July 14, 2013, 02:27 AM
Oh, is it already time for our hourly CTD thread?
Never too many in my opinion. If consumers would stop buying from companies that do this crap then maybe next time something like this happens their prices won't jump by 800%.

dirtykid
July 14, 2013, 02:33 AM
Just got their latest magazine, It went straight into the paper-shredder-pile,and along with the other papers I had to finsih shredding made nice fresh nesting material for the chickens,
From there, once saturated with poo,it will make its final trip to the compost pile to return from the earth in which it came

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust
In CTD I will no longer trust !!

bds
July 14, 2013, 10:00 PM
We shall never forget ... the gougers! :neener:

cocojo
July 14, 2013, 10:21 PM
Cheaper than dirt isn't the only one gouging prices on ammo. Able ammo, The ammunition store and a few more. Blazer brass $30.00 a box at these places. I bought 8 boxes 4 yesterday and 4 today of Blazer brass at a whopping $12.95 a box. They had federal american eagle at $14.95 a box. Those companies who are gouging us, I'm done buying from them period. When this business of ammo is over, they can eat what they have left. :fire:

red rick
July 14, 2013, 10:43 PM
" Which leads me to believe CTD is ripping us off ".

You are just finding this out ?

I will never buy from them.

ArchAngelCD
July 15, 2013, 12:45 AM
I was at a gun show in Allentown, PA this weekend. A dealer was TRYING to sell bricks of American Eagle 22LR ammo for $75 and he was trying to get $100 for Fiocchi bricks. I didn't see any sell at those prices. (thank goodness) Another dealer wanted $20 for 100 rounds of Rem Golden Bullets. Six hours later all 6 boxes were still on his table. When he saw me roll my eyes at the price he actually had the nerve to tell me I was spoiled because 22LR ammo has been too cheap for too long. I said nothing to him but I'm guessing not many agree with him since he sold nothing all day!

smalls
July 15, 2013, 04:33 AM
When he saw me roll my eyes at the price he actually had the nerve to tell me I was spoiled because 22LR ammo has been too cheap for too long. I said nothing to him but I'm guessing not many agree with him since he sold nothing all day!

Sometimes I think people purposely over price their whole table at gun shows because they enjoy being the "grumpy old guy".

Pyzon
July 15, 2013, 10:43 AM
I am always disappointed when buyers jump to calling sellers "gougers". If an idiot agrees to pay such a price, who can stand and criticize their decision ? Until a sale is made, what is being gouged ?

I have over 40 years of retail store owner experience, and when I can buy something cheaper, I can sell it cheaper. When the supply is limited and demand is high, guess what happens ? It is simple economics.

So far, the seller is free to do any thing they choose with their products, and buyers are free to buy or not.

What is so hard to understand about a free market ?

CPLofMARINES
July 15, 2013, 12:15 PM
You have Pre Sandy Hook and Post Sandy Hook, and the
Latter caused a lot of people to do a lot of stupid things;
Irrational thinking. Business is business, Pre Sandy Hook,
I bought 10mm (BRV ammo) around $19 per 50. Good
Range stuff. Now, would I be buying from them today,
No way. Everything goes in cycles, CTD aren't the only
Ones price gouging. People need to stop paying those
Prices as well.


Semper Fi

oneounceload
July 15, 2013, 04:30 PM
which leads me to believe CTD is ripping us off at their prices.

Can't be doing that unless you are buying from them.

No one is gouging - there have been hundreds of threads about it - you are npt being forced to buy from them, or anyone, at all

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