U.S. Military Bayonets, Knives, Machetes and Swords


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July 12, 2013, 09:16 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // Did a search for a U.S. Military Steel thread, none came up.
Once you know what you have. RCModel and others have many threads, broken down by type, that are outstanding.

A U.S. Military Steel thread could...Hopefully .. help myself and others figure out what the heck we just bought or fine tune our knowledge of our purchases.:D

If this already exists please direct me.

During the last spike in gun prices, my interest turned to finding proper U.S. Steel to match my Military firearms. I'm hooked, just wish know more.

Eye Candy:1873-1955
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Starting top left and working down:

1873 Springfield Trapdoor- Bayonet, Scabbard, with later issue Frog
1890 Engineer's Machete, 1st type, 4 bolsters. (Philippine contract)
1898 Springfield "Krag"- Bayonet *1902,Scabbard
1890 Engineer's Machete, 2nd type, 3 bolsters. (Philippine contract)
1917 Remington Eddystone - Bayonet, Scabbard (1917 Remington)
1911 S.A. Bolo Machete * Bolo retains scabbard clip, Scabbard *A-K-C0. 1918 R.H.S.(Vellum/Canvas) *no catch for bolo clip
1917 Patton Sword *L.F.&C. 1918, Scabbard *no frog.

Top right and down:
1903 S.A. Bayonet *1921, Scabbard
1942 U.S.M.C. Medical Corpsman Machete *Village Blacksmith, Scabbard *Boyt 42
1942 M1 Garand Bayonet *Utica Cutlery (crossed cannon on right side), Scabbard
1943 Pilots Folding Machete, *Cattaragus U.S.A., Scabbard (metal blade protector)
1944 U.S.M.C. MK2 Machete *S.W.I. repro**1970s ( but listed in Cole's book)<live and learn.. grr, Scabbard *1943 with Flaming bomb
1945 M1 Carbine Bayonet, U.S. M4 *Kinfolks Inc.(stamped S and 55 on hilt), Scabbard.
???? U.S.M.C. fighting knife *KA-BAR, U.S.M.C. logo leather sheath
???? M1 Carbine Bayonet *no markings, Scabbard

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rcmodel
July 12, 2013, 09:30 PM
Well, I don't have time to tell you what all of them are tonight.

But you have an awful nice start on a real nice collection!!

rc

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July 12, 2013, 09:56 PM
I appreciate it, hooked now.... the 1911 Bolo did it... had to put in the photo of my Father (pre Army days) and Grandfather (in Uniform).

AlexanderA
July 13, 2013, 02:14 AM
1917 Patton Sword *L.F.&C. 1918, Scabbard *no frog.

I don't know what you mean by "frog." Patton sabers were never carried on the soldier's person. They were strapped to the saddle, in various positions and by various methods, depending on the date.

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July 13, 2013, 05:58 AM
Wow, thanks for catching that .. Do you know the correct term or just know it was not "frog"?

made a correction ...

Just read a letter, explaining the attachment on different saddles, for new military users and the term used most often was "Saber Straps". Possibly just the leather strap with buckle.

Anyone have a better word or more correct description. I like the fine tuning.

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July 13, 2013, 10:34 PM
Western L77 Commando Stiletto blued blade - added this today.

Two days ago there were no Military knives in the local shops.
Glad I stopped back in.
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186305
186306

**no sheath

Gun Master
July 13, 2013, 11:10 PM
Wow, thanks for catching that .. Do you know the correct term or just know it was not "frog"?

made a correction ...

Just read a letter, explaining the attachment on different saddles, for new military users and the term used most often was "Saber Straps". Possibly just the leather strap with buckle.

Anyone have a better word or more correct description. I like the fine tuning.
I figured out why it is called a frog. If you put it back on your belt, without it, you'll "Rip It" ! Yuk! Yuk! Enough of that! I bought an M-16 bayonet some time ago, without the ubiquitous frog. (Smart move, huh?) Finally, I figured out I needed a frog! I think it is called M-6 ? Anybody know where I could locate one ? Thanks

Deltaboy
July 15, 2013, 12:30 AM
Great collection.

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July 15, 2013, 10:21 AM
TYVM sir,
I was lucky enough to be the second or so person to look at an older friends collection, before being sold off.
I picked the ones I wanted and he was kind enough to sort of do a layaway plan and hold them... took a few months but I made good.

The Patton Sword had not seen the light of day since the 1940s, one of my Grail items!

The three bolster 1890s Engineers Machete I found in a pawn shop for 30 bucks, covered by dragon gripped cheapies.

Hope the luck continues.

I'd like to be able to date the Marine Kabar if anyone has a source.

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July 27, 2013, 12:15 AM
Correction post 6...is the L77 Fighting knife.
The stiletto is the L76 and sharpened fully on both edges.

Gun Master
July 27, 2013, 02:09 PM
Frog for M-16 for bayonet ? Anybody know where I can get one ? Thanks:)

rcmodel
July 27, 2013, 06:12 PM
You are not in need of a frog.

You are in need of a scabbard.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/scabbardm8a1likenewusgi.aspx


A frog is a leather thing a steel or wood or leather scabbard fits in to allow it to be attached to a belt.
This is a steel scabbard with a leather frog as used by Sweden years ago.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/swedishmauserbayonetplusfrog.aspx

M16 bayonet scabbards already have a belt hanger & belt loop built in so have no frog.

rc

Gun Master
July 27, 2013, 08:12 PM
You are not in need of a frog.

You are in need of a scabbard.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/scabbardm8a1likenewusgi.aspx


A frog is a leather thing a steel or wood or leather scabbard fits in to allow it to be attached to a belt.
This is a steel scabbard with a leather frog as used by Sweden years ago.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/swedishmauserbayonetplusfrog.aspx

M16 bayonet scabbards already have a belt hanger & belt loop built in so have no frog.

rc
Thanks rc .

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July 27, 2013, 08:36 PM
Third one down on the right is the Garand sheath/scabbard, you need.
Length varies though, the short one I have was made from a Patton Sword. Some bayonets are longer. Hate to see ya get one to short for your Bayonet.

Gun Master
July 27, 2013, 08:43 PM
Ha ! Ha ! Thanks !

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July 31, 2013, 09:54 AM
Picked up a few more at the last gun show.

First is my new favorite the Colonial , Prov.R.I. pocket knife with saw blade.
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The shinny one I happened to remember fro m Sliveys book similar the Murphy style Commando knife. It has an Aluminum grip and is made by F Barteaux.

The large example on the right is the U.S.M.C., Briddell made Medical Corpsman Machete.

Non of the knives belonged to my Grandfather, just included the family correspondence, tobacco, tire ration cards and the 12 scarf to set the WWII period.

Anyone know of the correct sheath for the F. Barteaux? The book shows a slightly different knife.

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