PPU .308 w/145gr. projectile


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NapalmMan67
July 13, 2013, 10:34 AM
I have a few hundred rounds of this- So, what's the consensus of performance with this ammo?

Going to shoot it in a Rem 700 Police w/26" barrel just for target practice and not out past 100 yards. Just wondering what type of performance I can/should expect.

This will be my first go round with both the firearm and ammo.


Thanks.


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M1key
July 13, 2013, 04:50 PM
Gee, not a lot of consensus...

I expect it to go BANG. Why not have a go and let us know?


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firesky101
July 13, 2013, 05:11 PM
different rifles like different loads, my experience in general with ppu has been good. Reasonably accurate, and well priced.

back40
July 13, 2013, 05:36 PM
i have a bunch of this stuff, and for what i paid it's pretty decent. i was mostly after it for cheap plinking ammo and the brass to load plinking ammo.

i've shot it out of both my 700 and my ruger GSR. the 700 is a 26" police bbl action, and will shoot FGMM and my handloads into sub .75" 5 shot groups consistently. i've never really put good enough glass on the scout to realize it's full accuracy potential, but it'll hold MOA @ 100 with FGMM with the 1-4x scope that i use on it.

both rifles average about 1.5" groups with the PPU, with the GSR groups opening up a little more ( i think due to the GSR twist rate of 1:10 and the PPU using the 145 grn bullet).

i'd say it's decent ammo, but as stated different rifles like different loads, even if they left the factory in the same configuration. then there's always the person driving the rifle too.

NapalmMan67
July 15, 2013, 01:33 PM
Ya, it went bang. :rolleyes:


Anyway, sighted in the scope at 25 yards and put 5 shots in 1" group. Could not get on any longer ranges as they were all full with training classes at my range.

Wasn't thinking of using this for 200+ yards, but after talking with a guy at the range yesterday I may give it a try. Going to give it a try at 600 yards and stay on a 16-18" target. If what I read is correct, after 100 yard zero, there will be an 8-9' drop to 600.


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JShirley
July 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
You'll probably get a much idea of your potential if you first fire at 200 and 300 yards or meters.

John

M1key
July 15, 2013, 05:30 PM
Anyway, sighted in the scope at 25 yards and put 5 shots in 1" group.

That sounds about typical for most .308 ball loads (4 MOA). I have never gotten any to shoot very well at any range out of either of my 40x or VSSF. I would step up to a match bullet (handload or factory).

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NapalmMan67
July 15, 2013, 09:34 PM
JShirley-
I've got some practice to do on the 100 and 200 yard ranges before I get qualified for the 600 yard range, so will see how this stuff works out at those distances.

ddbambam-
Yep, ballistics calculator shows a 96" drop with a 100 yard zero. Here's hoping the 20moa scope mount works out to give me enough adjustment room with my scope.

M1key-
I've got some 168 and 175 SMKs I plan on reloading eventually with this spent brass after I use the rest of the ammo for practice. I also found after checking inventory again, I have 600 rounds of it. I guess I gets lots of practice.


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back40
July 15, 2013, 09:56 PM
check back with a range report. i'd be interested to hear how your rifle likes it.

adelbridge
July 16, 2013, 12:43 AM
I tried some about 3weeks ago and it was horrible. I even tested it in a Caldwell fire control and I would get two to group at most and it would throw fliers. Maybe the Serbs are trying to hard to keep up with our demand? I read good stuff about it in the past.

vujade
July 16, 2013, 01:26 AM
Shot several different types of 308 ammo from PPU (I really wanted to like them) through a Savage 10FP, Howa 1500, Savage Edge and finally a Saiga in 308.

The consensus among those rifles: "Better than wolf, certain not 'match""

Through benched Bolt action rifles, trying 140 grainers all the way up to the 168 and 175 "match" - 2-3 inch groups. (most of them the latter. This is at 100 yards, 3-5 shot groups). Federal/Hornady will do 1 inch easily at 100 yards for these rifles. Handloads will get under an inch. (.25-.33 with the Savage 10FP).

Through the Saiga 308, I get 3-4 inches @ 100 yards. Wolf ammo will get 4-5 inches.

So I'm not impressed. Out of curiousity, I pulled the bullets out of 10 of their "match" 175 grainers and weighed the bullets and powder. There were variances up to .1 to .3 grains on the powder. The bullets were pretty consistent. I loaded them up to exact loads on an analog scale - I haven't gotten back out to shoot them.

vujade
July 16, 2013, 01:30 AM
I agree. 2 will normally always be very close and then one of them would be a flier 1 to 2 inches out. (it's not always the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.) Just random.

When i try 5 shot groups, they really open up but there will be 2 or 3 that are almost touching.

Decent brass to reload though.

NapalmMan67
July 16, 2013, 04:41 PM
I will try to get back to the range this coming weekend for some 100/200 yard tests, depends on if they have any more classes scheduled and whether I will be able to use them.


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