Gun registry database errors. (Aus.)


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Deadman
March 20, 2004, 08:46 PM
Shooter anger over errors in gun records.

Sun-Herald 21/3/04

When what should have been a routine police check revealed that four of Kevin Bishop's rifles were unregistered last month, the veteran shooter knew there had to be a mistake.
Six years ago, the western Sydney maintenance worker's entire collection of guns was inspected and registered by an authorised agent - and he has the paperwork to prove it.
The only problem was that his own records didn't match those kept by the New South Wales state Police Firearms Registry.
When he pressed the issue, he said a registry officer told him his details had probably been lost along with "hundreds, if not thousands" of others.
Shooters Party MP John Tingle said he received at least two complaints just like Mr Bishop's every day.
"There are hundreds of legitimate gun owners out there asking what the hell they should do," he said.
"If a certificate of registration has been issued , the owner is absolutely in the clear. The police lists are wrong. The whole thing is a bloody disaster."
Despite the best efforts of its 50 staff, the registry was in such disarray that in one case, a registered gun dealer was nominated as owning 800 guns he didn't have and not credited with another 300 firearms that he did, Mr Tingle said.
Evidence from private records suggest the registry's database may have a 60 per cent error rate.
In recognition of the problem, Police Minister John Watkins has announced an additional $2.9 million to fund the registry this year with similar amounts promised over the next three years. He has also promised 40 additional staff.
Last month, however, the Government also moved to extend its state wide amnesty to have illegal firearms either registered or destroyed, until the end of May.
The "no questions asked" campaign was launched last August and scheduled to run until the end of this month.
As is stands, anyone caught in possession of an illegal or unregistered gun beyond the new deadline faces up to 14 years in jail.
Opposition police spokesman Peter Debnam called the Murwillumbah based facility "a can of worms and an extraordinary case of maladministration."
"The bottom line is the Government simply doesn't know how many registered guns are in NSW," he said.

By John Kidman
Police Reporter


:rolleyes:

All that money spent of creating a nationwide gun registry database, the money spent on numerous 'gun buybacks', the money spent of inspections/audits, the money spent on staff etc., in the end being nothing more than a complete and utter waste. And now they're going to throw even more money at an already ridiculous government program.
Oh well, NSW gun owners take note, contact the Firearms registry, find out what they think you have and then bury the rest....

Oh and NSW criminals you get more time to commit crime with guns, then turn them in no questions asked....

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Radagast
March 20, 2004, 08:59 PM
ROFL!

It isn't getting any better. The registry recently sent me a new registration certificate for a pistol that I had turned in and they had destroyed.

Not to mention the two rifles with the serial numbers and model number swapped around.

Of course the sensible solution os drop registration, but I can't see that happening soon.

Ken

Hkmp5sd
March 20, 2004, 09:01 PM
Sounds about as accurate as ATF's NFA registry. And about as useful.

StuporDave
March 20, 2004, 09:14 PM
Police Minister John Watkins has announced an additional $2.9 million to fund the registry this year with similar amounts promised over the next three years

Typical liberal thinking. The program doesn't work, it's records are a fiasco, and it's staff apparently inept. Let's throw more money at it!

Justin
March 20, 2004, 09:21 PM
First it was the BATFE NFA registry.

Then the registry in Canada.

Now it's happening in Oz.

But I doubt they'll get the hint...

Deadman
March 20, 2004, 09:47 PM
The registry recently sent me a new registration certificate for a pistol that I had turned in and they had destroyed.

Apparently my two M44's and my CZ 452 varmint have a magazine capacity of 0000.

My Israeli Mauser has a capacity of 0007.

My Browning pump .22 has a capacity of 10 instead of 11.

My 1894CP has a capacity of 0009, when technically it should be 8 or 8+1.



Good job boys, good job. :rolleyes:


(Although I wouldn't mind a 7.62 Mauser with a cap. of 7. :cool: )

Standing Wolf
March 20, 2004, 10:49 PM
Another Great Triumph of socialism over commoners.

fallingblock
March 21, 2004, 03:15 AM
Our club had a revolver stolen in a locked safe three years ago.
It was recovered about six monthe later out-of-state and returned to the N.T. police, who then "put it in their forensic collection" until the recent "buyback", when all club books had to be updated. We reported it once again as 'stolen', but this time the police sent it on to the club!
Apparently they'd forgotten that they had it.

Last week, we received notice that the revolver in question must be taken to a dealer to have its barrel measured to ensure it is compliant with new regulations.:eek:

The police had it for over two years and no one took note of the barrel length, not even before returning it to the club.:what:


Yes, we all feel so much "safer" now, Mr. Howard.:fire:

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