I just got a boatload of 16ga #8 shot that doesn't quite work in my Auto-5.
Seems the crimp is just long enough after firing to hang up in the ejection port. The shells are Herter's, from Cabela's if anyone is wondering.
I'd like to buy a somewhat inexpensive shotgun that isn't ammo sensitive; IE pump, lever, double barrel, etc. that I can shoot when the Auto-5 chokes.
I checked ableammo.com and they had a Browning BPS (kinda $ for what I need), a couple CZ SxS's and the Stoeger Condor.
Any others out there I'm missing? I ask for new because I'd really prefer screw in chokes.
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July 21, 2013, 09:46 PM
a remington 870 16ga is what i would hunt for...less than $400 bucks probably
July 21, 2013, 09:50 PM
Sounds to me like you got 2 3/4" shells and you have an older Browning A5 with a 2 9/16" chamber & ejection port.
Simmons Gun Specialties can fix that.
July 21, 2013, 09:54 PM
Pick up a used Winchester Model 12 in 16ga. I see them quite often in gun stores and on the Cabella's rack. Also see the occasional Ithaca 37 in 16ga.
Here is a nice looking Model 12 on Gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=354960329#PIC
July 21, 2013, 10:17 PM
rcmodel: nope, most definitely chambered for 2 3/4" shells. It's stamped on the barrel along with the "16-70" stamp.
July 21, 2013, 10:52 PM
You can buy a lot of older shotguns in 16ga for pennies on the dollar compared to the same guns in 12, 20, or especially 28ga. I have seen lots of model 12's, Ithaca 37's, and Wingmasters in 16ga sell for less than $300. Browning is really your only option for a new production 16 without laying out several thousand dollars, which doesn't make much sense just to burn up some cheap shells.
July 21, 2013, 11:15 PM
I just checked Ithaca's website. Seems they're making the M37 in 16g with 26", 28" or 30" barrels and removable chokes. My dad has an older M37 featherlight that is just amazing. This seems like what I'll be looking for. Anyone know how much those are going for?
July 22, 2013, 03:40 AM
Look for an M37 in this chambering to be in the mid 300s, dependent upon age--I'd want 1) Mod. or 2) I/C. As you most likely know, be very wary of length of pull on older shotguns. I have seen Stevens 311 SxS sell for a song in 16 ga. I suggest you look into the 16 ga. society website for some really good advice on this topic. I love 16 ga.!
July 22, 2013, 09:32 AM
Here is the 16 gauge society:
July 22, 2013, 09:44 AM
Just go prowl around some gun stores and look on the used rack. My LGS has several nice 16 ga doubles for reasonable prices. I've been tempted to buy one myself.
July 22, 2013, 11:00 PM
Unless you're just opposed to autos I'll add looking for an 11-48, I got one in 16 ga about a year ago for $150. It has ran everything I've put through it so far.
July 22, 2013, 11:21 PM
IE pump, lever, double barrel, etc. that I can shoot when the Auto-5 chokes.
PLENTY of great SxS guns from Spain, England and others, but they will not be H&R single shot cheap
July 23, 2013, 04:16 AM
What is a boatload? If they work OK, I'd shoot them all and deal with any issues and then not get more.
July 23, 2013, 07:37 AM
Cokeman: approx 500. I would just blunder through them, but a good 75% wouldn't fit through the ejection port after firing. Also, my A5 has been picky on some shells before. A good cleaning of the mag tube and related parts has helped immensely, but it would be nice to have a back up gun around to shoot when the A5 won't.
I'm kinda leaning toward the Stoeger Condor, simply because it's got removable chokes at a reasonable price. Now before everyone's head explodes and tells me to get a "B" gun and don't waste my money, please please PLEASE understand that this thing will see MAYBE 250 shells a YEAR through it. It would be used mainly for skeet. I shoot skeet 3-4 times a year at 4 rounds per trip. That's 400 assorted shells max. Besides, my Mossberg 500 is my main skeet and trap gun. The rest will be assorted hunting and trap on my property.
July 23, 2013, 12:33 PM
See if CZ has their Huglu-made guns in 16 - a FAR better step up from anything Stoeger but still reasonable
July 23, 2013, 01:20 PM
Oneounceload: CZ does make a couple SxS in 16, but the least expensive is $850. At that point I would save a bit more and get something in a B-gun flavor. Thanks for the suggestion though.
July 23, 2013, 03:25 PM
Sorry, but at THAT price point you'd be saving a LOT more to get a "B" gun, about 3X that much.
There are plenty of good quality used guns that would help your budget
Here are 215 16 gauge of all flavors for sale: (and all price ranges)