February Mail in Match for Fellow THR Members


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ReadyontheRight
February 3, 2003, 11:42 PM
February '03

.22 PLINKER: Shooting a lot of inexpensive .22 rounds is a great way to improve your rifle shooting. Plinking off cans with a rifle is a fun shooting tradition. So this month’s target is a picture of soda can. (Please don't mail or e-mail me actual cans).

20 shots standing, shooting offhand with no support at 50 yards. Each hit in the soda can counts as 1 for a possible of 20. A small X ring in the center of the can will be used as a tiebreaker.

Download February's target here (http://members.lsol.net/beebe/thrpm/)

Thanks to Bedlamite for the great February Match idea and for hosting the Mail in Match website!

Shoot safely and Good Luck!


P.S. If you don't have access to a rifle, go ahead and use a pistol for this. Use the same classifications:

Standard = regular barrel up to 6"
Improved = barrel over 6", bull barrel or other significant improvements
Scoped = scoped
Open = any other pistol

Good luck at 50 yards! Pistol scores will likely get honorary mention.

Or -- get yourself a .22 rifle -- what a great excuse to get a new sub- $200 gun that shoots dirt cheap ammo accurately!

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HABU
February 4, 2003, 12:37 AM
I suppose scopes are allowed? Bah!

ReadyontheRight
February 4, 2003, 12:45 AM
I suppose scopes are allowed? Bah!

In the "Scope" and "Open" classes - yes.

Stock and Improved classes are iron sites only.

20 shots at 50 yards, standing, offhand with no support shooting at a Pepsi can.

And no American coinage is as small as the "x" ring.

Good luck!

Mal H
February 4, 2003, 01:06 AM
A few questions ROTR:

What category would an improved rifle with a scope be in? Would you use the highest category that fits, i.e., scoped?

Can we enter more than once? That is, can we use different rifles in different categories? Shooting only one target in each, of course. Or is it limited to one target per shooter no matter what?

ahenry
February 4, 2003, 01:21 AM
I didn’t get a chance to participate in the last mail in match, but it looks like I will be able to this month. I’m looking forward to it. Great idea.


Can we enter more than once? That is, can we use different rifles in different categories? Shooting only one target in each, of course. Or is it limited to one target per shooter no matter what? I know I’m not running any of this but if I could toss in my two centavos, I think it’d be great if we had the option of competing in various classes.

T.Stahl
February 4, 2003, 10:35 AM
I can't print the complete page.
Whenever I try to print this month's target, the print out lacks the lower 30-40% of the can. Everything else is complete.
I thought it was related to trying to print a "letter"-sized file on an A4-sized paper, but the problem remains, even when I specify the paper as letter-sized. :confused:

ReadyontheRight
February 4, 2003, 08:12 PM
Can we enter more than once? That is, can we use different rifles in different categories? Shooting only one target in each, of course. Or is it limited to one target per shooter no matter what?

To encourage ownership and mastery of multiple firearms, go ahead and enter in 1-4 classes. I may change this if it appears that it's being abused.

Country Boy
February 5, 2003, 05:07 PM
bump

Pappy John
February 5, 2003, 05:39 PM
Cool...my favorite kind of shooting! I'll be sending in 2 classes. Maybe I'm simple, but what would you consider to be abuse of the system. I didn't understand the comment, Readyontheright.

DMK
February 5, 2003, 11:29 PM
Stock is only for carbines? How many unmodified 22s only have 20" barrels?

All mine came with about 23-26" barrels unmodified (Marlin 39a, Romanian 1969 Trainer, Polish Mosin Trainer).

Is the use of a sling allowed?

larry_minn
February 6, 2003, 01:22 AM
50yds, no support, open sights below zero weather..... Might have to blow target up a little.
If sling allowed I may have to mount one. That can really make a difference.
I am one who always grabs a branch/bush/anything to shoot rifle.

DeputyVaughn
February 6, 2003, 08:01 AM
Having trouble downloading the target. I get the text and a approx 1 inch dot in the middle.

Help.

Scott

larry_minn
February 6, 2003, 12:38 PM
DeputyVaughn The can didn't show up for me until I scrolled down. I don't know why. Also I had to download the latest version before I could print some other stuff. Maybe check if you have version 5 or above.
Please note this is a area I know LITTLE about. Just that I didn't see can until I printed. Good luck.

bedlamite
February 6, 2003, 01:48 PM
DeputyVaughn- Sometimes The Adobe Plugin has problems dealing with larger files, I'm not sure why. Save it to your hard drive first; right click on the target link, then 'Save target as'

I don't think a sling would be a problem, but that's ROTR's call.

MAL H- anything with a scope is in the scope class.

DMK- Lots.
There are exceptions, but generally semi-autos and lever actions from Remington, Ruger, Marlin, etc. have barrels that are 20" or shorter. A few of Winchester's Lever actions and almost all bolt actions have barrels that are 22" or longer.

Is is wrong to assume that bolt guns with a longer sight radius are going to be more accurate than your off the shelf 10/22 or Rem 597?

Checking back through all the different Manufacturer's websites, maybe the cutoff should have been 21"

DeputyVaughn
February 6, 2003, 05:57 PM
I'll try downloading it first. thanks

Scott

DMK
February 6, 2003, 11:17 PM
Is is wrong to assume that bolt guns with a longer sight radius are going to be more accurate than your off the shelf 10/22 or Rem 597? Generally not. But if you're trying to weed out semis from the bolt actions wouldn't it make more sense just make semi and bolt action catagories. I just don't see how a box stock Marlin 39A or 25N is fair competition to a 10/22 and $500 on the Brownell's account.

Anyway, I'm not complaining. It's not a big deal in any way. The point of this is just to get out and have some fun. Anything that gives me an excuse to pick a gun out of the safe and shoot it is cool with me. :)

BTW: Cool Target! :D

DeputyVaughn
February 6, 2003, 11:33 PM
Downloaded target. Still opening as a dot and text. Tomorrow I'll try upgrading my Adobe. Maybe my version is too old.

Any other suggestions welcome.

Scott

Thirties
February 7, 2003, 07:21 AM
Is there a thread for the January target match (.38 special)?

If so, can someone please lnik it here? I saw nothing in my search.

Mal H
February 7, 2003, 09:00 AM
Go to the link ROTR supplied in his opening post (Download February's ...) and you will find January's target right above February's.

Thirties
February 7, 2003, 09:08 AM
"Go to the link ROTR supplied in his opening post (Download February's ...) and you will find January's target right above February's."

I'm looking for a thread on the January match. I have the target -- submutted it already.

Looking to hear the results and comments on the targets received.

bedlamite
February 7, 2003, 09:17 AM
Thirties- You can still get January's target here (http://members.lsol.net/beebe/thrpm/)
Results aren't posted yet, I'll put them up as soon as I get them.

I just don't see how a box stock Marlin 39A or 25N is fair competition to a 10/22 and $500 on the Brownell's account.

It wouldn't be fair competition, but then I've never seen a 10/22+$500 in parts upgrades that still has ironsights.

I don't have all the answers, I was just trying to come up with some way to make it fit into ROTR's class setup and still have some close competition. :)

I'f you'll excuse me, I'm going to go practice by shooting the can that I scanned for the target. :D

Steve Smith
February 7, 2003, 02:07 PM
I think JC121 and I will take a crack at this this weekend.

DMK
February 7, 2003, 08:51 PM
but then I've never seen a 10/22+$500 in parts upgrades that still has ironsights. You make a good point there! :)

ReadyontheRight
February 7, 2003, 09:35 PM
Maybe I'm simple, but what would you consider to be abuse of the system. I didn't understand the comment, Readyontheright.

Pappy John -- You're not simple, I'm just being too anal. The more shooting the better!

It looks like everyone needs Adobe Acrobat 5.0 to download the targets, so go here (http://www.adobe.com) to get it for free.

As far as all the questions go, just try to keep it fair. 20" seemed like an OK cutoff to differentiate between the plinker carbines and the target .22s.

Get out and shoot!

January .357/.38 wheelgun results are in and will be posted in January's thread.

Thirties
February 8, 2003, 06:50 AM
Readyontheright, thanks for coming up with these matches.

For those of you who cannot find the January thread, here's this link (message posted Feb 7):

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4649&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

El Rojo
February 8, 2003, 09:42 AM
Now let me make sure I am not breaking any rules. I can only print and shoot one target right? However, there is nothing wrong with me doing quite a bit of practice on just paper before hand right? Plus I need to get sighted in. As long as I shoot at my target just once and for 20 consecutive shots correct?

Fun fun fun fun. Good job organizers!!! I will most certainly be in the improved, scoped class. Good luck everyone! Good choice on firearm this month. Lots of people can participate in this one.

DeputyVaughn
February 8, 2003, 12:00 PM
Upgrading to Adobe 5.0 fixed the problem. I got the pepsi can now. I think the dot I was getting is where the x was inserted. Anyway I'll shoot it when the weather is co-operative.

Scott

El Rojo
February 10, 2003, 01:31 AM
Boy that was a little more challenging than I thought. I could hit that X all day long prone with the bipod. Standing??? I got a 14-0x. Not too bad.

I really liked this match. It was a fun one. Keep 'em coming.

Ideas for the next match? Hmmmm. Surplus rifle at 100 yards any position. Or here would be a fun one. Make it a team match. All .223 scores vs. .308 scores!!! Or, heaven forbid, 9mm vs. .45ACP!!!!!!!!! There are good ideas. Just make it an average. If you really want, make a shotgun match. One round of trap. Just make a signature line for the puller to say something like, "I certify that the shooter announced to me that this round would be for a postal shoot and their score was ____" I am not a trap shooter and wouldn't participate, but what the heck. Problem is you might get a lot of 25s and no way to pick a winner.

What other calibers do I have? 7.62x54, .30-06, .308, 7.5x55, 6.5x55, 8mm, .30-30 (LEVER GUN MATCH!!!), .30 carbine, 7.62x39 (SKS/AK Match), 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP.

As you can tell, this is fun for me and I really like this idea and really look forward to the March match.

ReadyontheRight
February 20, 2003, 12:17 AM
Back to Top!

The weather's warming up here in MN.

Print out this month's target, grab your .22 plinker and get out to the range this weekend!

bedlamite
February 20, 2003, 06:36 PM
It got up to 54 degrees here today, so I spent some time at the range trying not to step in the deeper mudpuddles :) Got a couple of laughs putting the target up.

Mal H
February 20, 2003, 08:17 PM
El Rojo - Before it's too late, ROTR did say we could shoot one target for each category if we wish assuming we have the proper rifle for the category. Correct me if I'm wrong on the details, ROTR. You can print and shoot one-and-only-one target per category, but you cannot use the same rifle in more than one category. IOW, if you have one .22 rifle, you'll shoot one category target only. If you have 2 .22's and they are in different categories, you can shoot 2 targets, etc.

El Rojo
February 20, 2003, 08:36 PM
That does sound fair. If you have a stock .22 with a scope you can shoot that in one catagory and shoot your .22 custom with scope in another. Man, that means I have one more target that I can print and shoot!

Now is it still 50 yards for the pistol class? :what:

Mal H
February 20, 2003, 11:32 PM
Again, stop me if I'm wrong ROTR, but if a rifle has a scope, any scope, it is to be used only in the top two categories - scoped or "any rifle". IOW, you couldn't enter your stock rifle w/scope in the stock rifle class, but could enter it in the "any rifle". Actually you could probably enter either rifle in the "any" and the other in the scoped class.

DeputyVaughn
February 25, 2003, 08:05 PM
ROTR,
Check your e-mail. Didn't think my target would get there in time by regular mail. This months match made me get around to giving my 10/22 some badly needed attention. I had put it aside because it needed some work. Thanks for making me get it back out.

Scott

DeputyVaughn
February 27, 2003, 11:12 AM
As the month's end draws near.......BTT

Scott

El Rojo
February 27, 2003, 10:58 PM
I get the feeling that I intially misunderstood the classes. So there are only 4 classes. You are in only one. Either stock .22 rifle, imporved .22 rifle, scoped .22 rilfe of any sort, or open class for those without .22 rifles.

I was thinking that you were either in stock .22 open sights or improved .22 open sights. Or you could be in stock .22 scoped or improved .22 scoped. Now I see I was mistaken.

That sucks because I gave my Winchester 190 a thorough cleaning the other day after work (it was filthy!) and then went out and shot it today. The amazing thing is despite it having only a 9x scope, considerably less money invested, and a horrible trigger, I lucked into a 13-0x! One shot was exactly along the line of the can. I mean it is as close as you can get without being able to call it a hit!!! With my super custom 10/22 I got a 14-0x! Go figure. I saved the picture file so I might just have to go out and shoot that thing again here sometime soon.

So since both of those firearms are scoped, I can only enter one of them right? DV how do we know if you received our targets? Could you let me know? I e-mailed them. Thanks.

ReadyontheRight
February 28, 2003, 12:09 AM
Sorry I've been unable to get online and respond to questions.

Go ahead and enter in up to 4 classes each -- as long as it's 4 different guns. As I posted before, I'll compromise the rules somewhat to encourage multiple firearm ownership.:D

El Rojo -- I've received one target from you via e-mail. I need to check the PO box.

A scoped .22 should go into the "Scoped" class. The "Open" class is to allow entry to those who don't own a version of the featured weapon. Same yardage though.

I'll give us all a few extra days to get out and shoot this weekend and send it in.

I will have time to set up the March match this weekend and it will take Bedlamite a while to get the target posted. Thanks again Bedlamite for all your help and to all of you for participating! This should get real fun when the weather gets better and the days get longer!

DeputyVaughn
February 28, 2003, 02:18 AM
ROTR,
I forwarded some targets that were accidently sent to me. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. It's probably getting to be a big job processing all the targets and all. These matches are a hoot.

Scott

Thirties
March 8, 2003, 07:44 AM
Just checking to see if there's anyone home?

ReadyontheRight
March 9, 2003, 09:38 PM
And -- Theeee winners!

Stock and Overall winner -- Deputy Vaughn 18-1X with a Ruger 10/22
Improved -- Pappy John 16-1X with an improved Ruger 10/22
Scoped -- El Rojo 14-0X with a scoped Ruger 10/22

Nice shooting everyone! Those Ruger 10/22s must have something going for them.

I just got my Mossberg M44, so we'll have to do another .22 plinker event this summer - possibly a Coke can this time, or maybe an Evian bottle.:D

Shoot in March's 9mm vs. .45 ACP Mail in Match here. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12579)

Overall Mail in Match Leaders - combined Jan/Feb Scores:

Deputy Vaughn 69/80-2X
Thirties 62/80-2X
Bedlamite 59/80-0X
CharleyM3 58/80-0x

El Rojo
March 9, 2003, 11:53 PM
Hey guys,

I am honored to have won this match. However, I don't understand!!! How could I have possibly won the scoped class with a 14-0x? Didn't anyone else enter? How did Deputy Vaughn win the stock class with an 18-1x without a scope? I guess he is just a darn fine shooter! How did Pappy John get a 16-1x which is lower than Deptuy Vaughn with an improved 10/22? Am I the only one that is perplexed by this all?

Hey, I should just keep my mouth shut and accept the win, but it just all seems so odd. I can't wait to do March now!

DeputyVaughn
March 10, 2003, 12:28 AM
The secret is "MAGIC" ammo. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Actually I'm not big on Federal ammo except for the 10/22. The Federal HP jacketed hollow points are the only ammo my 10/22 both feeds and shoots well. My 10/22 won't even feed Winchester ammo. These matches are great though. I'm looking forward to seeing how my EAA Witness 45acp does against the others out there. I'll be using my duty gun (Sig 226 9mm) for the 9mm shooting.

Scott

bedlamite
March 10, 2003, 08:33 AM
Yep, the trick is to find the ammo your gun likes. I've got to drive over an hour to get to a gun shop that carries Eley, and the stuff is expensive :( but my gun definitely likes it :D

Thirties
March 10, 2003, 09:12 AM
I wasn't going to enter the March contest as I don't have a .45, and I rarely shoot 9x19.

But now that I'm running second place overall, I will definitely give it a shot.

This is fun, R-O-T-R. Thank you a bunch for hosting these contests!

El Rojo
March 10, 2003, 11:21 PM
I had a feeling the only reason I won was because I was the only score received. What is wrong with all of you High Roaders? Get out and participate in these matches. Here I thought I was some hot shot shooter, turns out, I was the only shooter. Come on guys. Don't be such poor sports. Get out there and compete. I don't do it so much for the competing, I do it so I get out and shoot. It makes me get out and enjoy my firearms when I might otherwise decide I am too tired or too busy. Quit being bumps on logs. Lets go!

PS: Since no one else entered, can you put down my other score for my Winchester just to show I shot two different guns on two different days? If I got out twice, everyone else ought to get out at least once.

ReadyontheRight
March 11, 2003, 12:01 AM
El Rojo -- As they say, 80% of success involves showing up.;)

I've been a bump on a log myself and have not participated in either of the matches. That's changing this month.

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