Using A Modified AR-15 To Hunt In PA


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doubleg
July 26, 2013, 04:55 AM
So none of my rifles except for my AR are optics ready and I would like to take something with a scope into the woods this coming deer season. Would it be legal for me to some how install one of those magazine blocks (like the ones used in high power rifle competitions) effectively making the rifle a single shot, and thus legal to use hunting?

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Grumulkin
July 26, 2013, 06:03 AM
Even with a magazine block it's still a semiautomatic rifle so I highly doubt any game warden would consider it legal.

Old Shooter
July 26, 2013, 06:31 AM
Instead of installing a magazine block in the AR-15 why not just buy a set of Weaver mounts and use the scope on one of your other rifles?

Mayby Fish & Game would buy the single shot concept on the AR-15 but it could be an expensive lesson if they don't.

Good luck on the hunt.

cfullgraf
July 26, 2013, 07:44 AM
So none of my rifles except for my AR are optics ready and I would like to take something with a scope into the woods this coming deer season. Would it be legal for me to some how install one of those magazine blocks (like the ones used in high power rifle competitions) effectively making the rifle a single shot, and thus legal to use hunting?

Single shot followers are available from at least Sinclair International and Creedmoore Sports. Probably some other sources at all. Just replace the standard magazine follower with the single shot follower.

Also, there is the Bob SLED, a purpose built single shot device that replaces the magazine.

Sounds like you should contact PA Fish and Game, or what ever they call their organization to get the real scoop.

Sav .250
July 26, 2013, 08:12 AM
Even with a magazine block it's still a semiautomatic rifle so I highly doubt any game warden would consider it legal.
Better check your DNR site. I believe "semi-auto`s " are illegal to hunt with in Pa.

You can own but .....................

frankenstein406
July 26, 2013, 08:28 AM
See if you can plug the gas port?

Grumulkin
July 26, 2013, 01:47 PM
Semiauto rifes are illegal to hunt with in PA. An AR-15 is a semiauto rifle so there isn't much debate. If the other rifles aren't "scope ready," make them scope ready or use the iron sights. It isn't that hard.

desidog
July 26, 2013, 01:48 PM
See if you can plug the gas port?

Explaining to a judge how the semi auto rifle is bolt action without the gas tube would most likely be an uphill battle; and much more expensive in the long run than just buying a used, scoped bolt action rifle...

ngnrd
July 31, 2013, 10:31 PM
I would argue that, unless prohibited by name, a rifle capable of firing only one shot - even though it may happen to look like a popular style of semi-auto rifle - is, by definition, a single shot rifle.

If it is legal to use a magazine spacer to make a five-shot capable shotgun into a legal three-shot duck gun, why would an AR that's been converted to shoot single-shot-only be any different?

Of course, I will also not be posting your bail in the event that the local enforcement body disagrees with my assessment of the situation. So, it would probably be best to contact the local governing body and pose the question to them - preferably in writing.

On another note, I would think that there are much better platforms for a deer rifle than a single-shot AR. I would imagine that a standard break-action single-shot rifle would be quite a bit faster if there ever arises a need to take a follow up shot. And, I would think that even the worst, clunkiest, grittiest bolt action would still be head and shoulders above any single-shot AR in this case.

That's my two cents worth of advice. And it's probably worth just about what you paid for it.

T.R.
August 4, 2013, 08:20 AM
As many have already pointed out, semi-autos are banned for hunting in Pennsylvania. Even when used as a single shot rifle, it is still a semi-auto. Plan to lose the rifle and your defense case in open court. Judges are compelled to uphold the Law.

TR

243winxb
August 4, 2013, 11:49 AM
Unlawful Firearms & Devices: 1) Automatic and semi-automatic
(autoloading) rifles and handguns; 2) air or gas operated rifles and
handguns. http://www.envirothonpa.org/documents/2011-12HuntingTrappingDigest.pdf

josiewales
August 4, 2013, 02:12 PM
Even if you remove the gas system (like the Brits do) you can't you a .22 caliber bullet for deer in Pa. I live in Pa and every year I wish they would allow semi auto's for deer hunting.

eastbank
August 5, 2013, 02:40 PM
you can us .22 centerfire manually operated firearms for deer in pa. top left hand page# 31 (lawful arms & ammunition). pa hunting&trapping digest,issuied with your hunting license. eastbank.

armabill
August 5, 2013, 02:50 PM
The key word is manually operated.

Pump, bolt and lever actions are OK.

Semi-auto shotguns for small game are legal but limited to 3 shells total (2 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber).

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