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scooter-2
July 28, 2013, 02:49 PM
how many use a hand priming tool to prime cases, even when reloading on a progressive press? i like to check the primers when i prime. any comments or opinions helpful. scooter-2

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jwrowland77
July 28, 2013, 03:03 PM
I always hand prime. That way I can feel better at how the primer is fitting and if its going to be the last loading of the case.

kudu
July 28, 2013, 03:15 PM
Depends on what I am loading, most pistol ammo, no. They just cycle through the press. Most rifle ammo I resize deprime and then tumble. I then go through and hand prime making sure there is no tumbling media left in primer holes.

bds
July 28, 2013, 03:24 PM
I always resized/deprimed and hand primed my match rounds. This gave me a chance to chamber check for overly bulged cases and allowed me to inspect the primer pockets to see if they needed to be cleaned or not (which you can't do when depriming/bench priming in progressive mode). I also clean the primer pocket and hand prime defensive/near factory JHP practice rounds. For range practice/plinking pistol rounds, I press prime.

I hand prime when I use the single stage press to do load development for new bullets/powders.

For rifle cartridges, I prefer to take it slow as it is my "relaxation" time. I enjoy inspecting each cartridge and hand priming to ensure it is seated below flush around .004".

NCsmitty
July 28, 2013, 03:35 PM
Welcome to THR, scooter-2.

Yes, always. I drag my finger across the primer when I pull the case out of the priming tool.


NCsmitty

brickeyee
July 28, 2013, 03:38 PM
I still use a bench mounted RSBC primer tool.

Not the little one, the one with the long lever.

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/457599/rcbs-automatic-bench-priming-tool

You can feel primers a lot better and is is still plenty fast.

Rule3
July 28, 2013, 03:51 PM
When I first started reloading I did. Used the handy little Lee round version. Now I just prime on the press. I have no problems either way.

Priming by hand does give you that advantage of checking over each piece of brass.

cfullgraf
July 28, 2013, 03:57 PM
I use a hand primer even with cartridges that I load on a progressive. I have both a Hornady L-N-L and Dillon SDB.

I resize, clean and prep cases shortly after shooting then store them away for a future loading session. Small batches, relatively speaking, do not take much time to process.

When I do a loading session, i hand prime so that I can see the seated primer properly before loading powder and bullet. I can hand prime 100 cases in about the same time as it takes to fill a primer tube.

That said, I am currently setting up an RCBS Pro2000 and plan on using the press mounted APS priming system. I can see the strip index and will, at least, know that a primer is in position for seating. We'll see.

stubbicatt
July 28, 2013, 03:59 PM
Since I bought the APS hand primer by RCBS I use it and strip loaded primers exclusively.

scooter-2
July 28, 2013, 04:02 PM
thanks for the replies. i like to check the primers after i set them. i also look the case over too. i run my finger over the primer also. i have a dillon 550, but it seems it is easer to hand prime for me. scooter-2

beatledog7
July 28, 2013, 04:16 PM
Hornady LNL, exclusively. I have one set up for small and another for large and just have to swap shellholders.

GLOOB
July 28, 2013, 04:21 PM
I like to check the primers when I prime.
There's not necessarily a good reason why you can't do that on your press. You can batch prime on some presses way better and easier than using any handpriming tool. My handprimer went in the trash a long time ago.

dagger dog
July 28, 2013, 04:31 PM
Another HI, to a new member

Yes I like to hand prime as I don't shoot high volume and like to take the time involved in case prep. I do have the Lee turret press with auto index and on press priming system but I like to use a RCBS or Lee hand primers, but due to worsening arthritis will probably have to start using on press more often.

mljdeckard
July 28, 2013, 09:04 PM
It may be the last thing that prevents me from moving to a progessive setup, or skipping that step in it. I like to hand-prime and touch check every single one.

Welding Rod
July 28, 2013, 09:25 PM
I have used a RCBS hand primer for years. However I just ordered a progressive press so that will put an end to that in another week or so. I will be uniforming my primer pockets as I frequently have problems getting primers to seat properly even with the hand tool, and I don't want to be monkeying around making multiple seat attempts on a progressive press.

cfullgraf
July 28, 2013, 09:26 PM
It may be the last thing that prevents me from moving to a progessive setup, or skipping that step in it. I like to hand-prime and touch check every single one.

I felt the same way for 29 years of single stage reloading and then wanted a new toy to play with.

Just separate the resizing step from the reloading step.

Even with separating the reloading process into two steps, there is less case handling which makes the reloading process quicker and easier on the shoulder.

I resize, clean and prep cases shortly after shooting. A one or two hundred cases goes real fast, I even resize and expand handgun cases on the progressive leaving out the loading dies and powder measure.

i then store the cases away for a future loading session.

When I feel like loading some ammunition, I hand prime then run the cases through on the progressive leaving out the resizing dies.

Yes, my rates are a bit less than someone that loads straight through, but I have fewer jams and stoppages on the press and the process goes slick and smooth when less is going on. I still load more ammunition than I can shoot.

jcwit
July 28, 2013, 10:02 PM
I hand prime all my ammo both handgun and rifle. I even go so far as to use the old time Lee Priming tools using screw in shell holders. Just the way I like to do it.

cfullgraf
July 28, 2013, 10:41 PM
There are two kinds of priming operations, in-line and batch.

The in-line is what happens on a progressive or turret where at each stroke of the handle a loaded cartridge is completed. An "assembly line" operation where priming is one station on the machine.

Batch is where a quantity of cases are primed at one time and no other operation happens concurrently with the priming. Priming can be done with a hand primer, a bench mounted priming tool or one of several press mounted priming systems.

Which ever batch priming system an individual uses is personnel preference as they all get the job done. There are advantages and disadvantages to each.

While the OP specifically asked about those that hand prime while running a progressive, and that may the information he was looking for. But, he may get a broader response if he asked if folks batched primed off the progressive press and what system they used.

It has been interesting to see the responses so far.

TEC
July 29, 2013, 12:11 AM
Hornady L-N-L single stage press. I have both small primer and larger primer inserts that can be quickly exchanged without having to unscrew the little cup and spring.

The "feel" of priming on a single stage press is, IMO, as good or usually better than a hand held priming tool. Haven't tried the Sinclair tool, but It might be the one I would use, if I used a hand held priming tool. But $100 bucks is steep, especially if the press works well.
Using auto primer feeders, at least on the Hornady press (I have them) are a waste of time.

I tip out as many primers as I need for the number of cases I am priming, usually in multiples of 10, on a small rubber mat, and load each primer into the press by hand. Nitrile surgical gloves help, both to handle individual primers and to keep oily fingerprints from tarnishing polished cases..

The hand held tools with an attached plate that holds 100 primers are a PITA. And I never cared for using a hand-held primer tool with a primer in the press and pan full of primers next to the one being loaded and both next to my face while I was priming cases.

oldreloader
July 29, 2013, 01:08 AM
I use both the Lee LCT and CC and use the Safety prime on both. I had a RCII and bought a LCT for pistol. I liked it so well for the primer catch system and safety prime I sold the RCII and replaced it with the Lee CC. There is nothing wrong with the RCII I just prefer the Lee CC.

RussellC
July 29, 2013, 01:49 PM
Lee hand loader and a Ram Prime. Not the quickest...:cool:

Russellc

45 Dragoon
July 29, 2013, 03:45 PM
Me too, Lee hand held primer for all cals.


45 Dragoon

Walkalong
July 29, 2013, 04:04 PM
I hand prime and use an LNL.

Kuyong_Chuin
July 29, 2013, 04:58 PM
I have a Lee hand primer that came with my kit but I have not used it or the kit yet for that matter.

Joey

Arkansas Paul
July 29, 2013, 05:26 PM
Small primer pistol stuff gets primed on the Lee Turret.
Rifle and large pistol gets primed with a Hornady hand priming tool.

Rem700CDLSF3006
July 29, 2013, 08:40 PM
I prefer to hand prime just like the feel of feeling the primer seat

witchhunter
July 29, 2013, 10:04 PM
I have two old Lee hand primers one is set up for small and one for large primers. I can prime a bucket of brass while I act like I care what the Kardashians are up to on the tv.

FM12
July 29, 2013, 10:30 PM
Lee Auto prime. On ammo loaded with the Dillon progressive loaders, I sometimes go back and reseat with the Lee if they "feel" like the need reseating.

scooter-2
July 29, 2013, 10:56 PM
thanks for the replies. i have a dillon 550b, i still like to hand prime. it takes a whille to load primer tubes. i can hand prime about as fast. i am not worried about speed. i also have a lee cct press and an rcbs progressive. i hand prime when i use anyof the presses. i have been a member here for a while, i just do not talk much, i just read. i stay out of trouble that way. thanks. scooter=2

herrwalther
July 29, 2013, 11:10 PM
I tried using the priming tool on my Lee press, and didn't feel comfortable doing it. Since then I have used the Lee auto prime and feels much better. It is much easier to feel if the primer isn't seating correctly for some reason.

7mmb
July 29, 2013, 11:22 PM
I never graduated up from my Rock Chucker, my volume has never justified spending more money on a progressive. I never got the hang of the on-press attachment that came with my reloading kit and quickly upgraded to a RCBS hand priming tool and never looked back. I must not be the only one to not like the on-press set up because new RCBS kits come with the hand priming tool.

blitztech
July 29, 2013, 11:37 PM
I really have no other option as I've been using a hand press. The hand primer works well enough. Its sad that I've spent nearly a grand on reloading and I'm still using a hand press. I think my priorities are all wrong :(

saitek
July 29, 2013, 11:49 PM
i use a lee auto prime i get a better feel when they are seated also if their is a problem with the primer out to far you cant remove it from the shell holder . i used the installer that came with my rockchucker but it was a pain . it's slower but i find you make fewer mistake's that way. :)

Hondo 60
July 30, 2013, 10:03 AM
Nope, I use a progressive press.
Part of the speed is seating on the press.

cdb1
July 30, 2013, 11:04 AM
I am new to hand loading and have a LCT with priming attachments. After maybe 50 rounds of loading on the press I bought a hand primer and haven't looked back.

Lj1941
July 30, 2013, 01:52 PM
:evil:I do all of my priming with Lee hand primers. I have one each set up for small and large primers. I just change the shell holder when necessary. I like to feel the primer seat and if I have a loose or tight primer pocket,I can feel it right away.I do not have a progressive press and don't feel I need one.:)

PJSprog
July 30, 2013, 01:53 PM
I've used my Lee Auto Prime hand primer (the old round one) for the last 23 years. Works great for all calibers (handgun & rifle), and like most others have stated, I can feel the primer and check it manually before moving on.

brainwake
July 30, 2013, 02:07 PM
+1 on the hand primer.....plus I can sit on the couch with a TV tray and prime.

BillBloggins
July 30, 2013, 02:08 PM
Hornady hand priming tool all the way for all calibers- just did not like the Lee safety prime on my Lee turret press, or the feel of priming on the press. Then again I do not need high production volumes so hand priming remains an enjoyable way to feel the primers positively seating as they should.

joustin
July 30, 2013, 02:11 PM
I use the Lee XR. Easier for me and acts as a final QC for the brass.

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david bachelder
July 30, 2013, 05:03 PM
I hand prime all of my rifle brass. I reload with a Hornady LNL and use the priming system on the press, which works very well for me.

Montman
July 30, 2013, 07:35 PM
I use a Lee hand primer. The volume of loading I do isn't that large. I'll sit and watch TV while I prime 100 rounds every now and then. ;)

lastofthebreed
July 30, 2013, 09:17 PM
I hand prime all my reloads, just because it gives me one more opportunity to inspect my cases.

DeadFlies
July 30, 2013, 09:56 PM
I use the Lee Ram Prime and I have no problems with it.

I can feel the primers being seated, I can inspect each case after being primed, and it isn't too terribly slow, once you get a feel for it. Of course, I only do about 1k-2k rounds/year so a little extra time to do it the way I prefer, even if it is a bit slow, is perfectly acceptable to me.

And I don't watch TV so, for me, there's no advantage to the hand primers there. :D

MadOtis
July 30, 2013, 10:11 PM
I hand prime, too... after the first 20 or so caps landed on the floor from what I know now was an ill-positioned Lee Safety Prime, I got a hand primer and it's actually much easier for me, and like others, allows me to more closely inspect each case.

frankmako
July 30, 2013, 10:43 PM
i hand prime all my rifle cases. for pistol i sometime do, then run the case through the dillon 550.

exbrit49
July 30, 2013, 11:02 PM
Been using these for 30 years and love them for a reason, I can feel exactly how well the primer seats and I can tell when its time to scrap brass for loose pockets, Results from hand priming are so much more consistent.
Sure its faster to auto feed them on progressives but I cant feel that primer seat.
I'm staying with hand priming, not about to change after 30 plus years! Never had a FTF in all the thousands of rounds loaded.

hdbiker
July 31, 2013, 10:28 AM
I'm still using the old original Lee hand primer with the screw in shell holders .I like it.hdbiker

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