Hi-Point reliability?


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Third_Rail
March 21, 2004, 08:05 PM
Okay, I really like some of the prices I see on HP pistols/carbines. Now, as they are cheap, are they horrible quality or are they good enough for home and self defence? What I mean is 5 or less FTE or FTF in every 500 rounds, as I consider that good enough.

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Badger Arms
March 21, 2004, 08:32 PM
They are generally reliable and I'd consider them good enough for home defense. They are cheap and look cheaply made, because they are. They use inexpensive construction means and don't waste time fitting and finishing like the other manufacturers. They tend to have a longer break-in period because of this and they don't look the greatest either. I'd buy it and use it for home defense, just put about 4 boxes through the gun first to make sure it will work with your chosen load.

ny32182
March 21, 2004, 08:43 PM
I guess most of them could probably make it 1 malf in 100, but thats definitely not good... get a used higher quality gun if you are looking for something "cheap", it will be a much better idea. I'm not personally a Glock owner, but a used Glock would probably be the least expensive gun that I'd feel comfortable using for SD...

Mr. Mysterious
March 21, 2004, 08:45 PM
Spend a little more and buy a Steyr. You'll thank yourself.

jercamp45
March 21, 2004, 09:20 PM
but at a recent security firearms class, one guard...showed up with one(I have seen another on the hip of a casino guard since). The first guy did not make it through a string of 12 rounds of ball without some mechanical glitch. I did not bother asking the second guard how his was.
Buy something better...it is your life you are defending!!!!
Jercamp45

WonderNine
March 21, 2004, 09:24 PM
The ones I've had the mispleasure of seeing and messing with have been jammamatics.

hksw
March 21, 2004, 09:35 PM
At the 1000 mark, my 9 mm Comp had 2 failures. One was a FTF, round overshot the feed ramp with the nose stuck at the upper left corner of the chamber and slide, Can't recall what the other failure was but I do know there was another. (Haven't shot the gun for quite some time now. IIRC, no other failures up to 1600 rounds. Memory loss from aging is a terrible waste.)

A couple things to note about the HPs. The slide is somewhat stiff to retract due to it being a simple blowback (i.e. strong recoil spring). Somewhat more involved disassembly. Trigger is relative heavy. But for a $95-$120 gun, what can you expect?

Only reason I bought the gun was to find out why the love/hate from various posters. To summarize, for me, the gun works fine if all that concerns you is sending rounds down range.

Third_Rail
March 21, 2004, 09:56 PM
Steyer, hm? Website link, anyone?

Mr. Mysterious
March 21, 2004, 10:02 PM
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0BQY/10_45/55605820/p2/article.jhtml?term=

Search on here too, there are a ton of opinions on here about them.

SSGAUTEN
March 22, 2004, 12:20 AM
I have a 995 9mm carbine made by High Point. I have fired about 600 rounds of factory and handloaded ammo through it with NO malfunctions!

Just be sure to read and follow the manual when it tells you to use FMJ bullets.

This a very fun gun to shoot. I would use it in the home for SD in a minute, if I could not get to my 12 gauge pump loaded with 6 rounds of #4 buck.:D

Tropical Z
March 22, 2004, 01:54 PM
My comp 9 didnt need breaking in and has ALWAYS been reliable.I get real ill seeing all these posts about what garbage they are and how youd be better off throwing a potato at an attacker.Some people still think mine is garbage even after it outshoots their GloSigRugS&W! Some people never learn and thats who i love shooting with as it ticks em off that my Hi-Point just showed up their baby!
Hi-Points RRRRRRRRRUUUUUULLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!! and are super :cool: !!!

Third_Rail
March 22, 2004, 02:16 PM
Tropical Z, don't hold back, tell us how you feel! :D :rolleyes: :neener:

1911Tuner
March 22, 2004, 02:31 PM
One burp in a hundred? Acceptable if the gun is a range queen and will never be called upon to protect you and yours...if you can live with one in a
hundred on the range. I can't.

One in 500 is one too many for a CCW or duty gun. The problem with that
one in a hundred ratio is that you never know when it's gonna happen.
If the gun was consistent enough to nail it down to every 47th round,
you're golden. Since that's not gonna happen, it's a crapshoot as to
whether it'll choke on the 99th round or the next one.

IN MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE...High Points are not reliable enough to trust
MY life to. Some are surprisingly reliable, all things considered. Most aren't.
For a house gun, you'd be better served by buying two New England
Arms single-shot scatterguns and lopping the barrels off to about
18 inches. Obtaining a permit for a residence-only sawed-off shotgun
isn't hard to do in most states, and if you can get it done in yours,
cut it down to 14 inches, stoke it with #4 Buckshot, and aim low.
Just don't get caught off your property with it.

Just my nickel's worth...

Tuner

Third_Rail
March 22, 2004, 03:01 PM
Something tells me that the 14" scattergun wouldn't be legal in MA. Maybe if/when I move to VT or OR.

hansolo
March 22, 2004, 04:42 PM
If you are out-shooting all the folks with S&W's, etc. with a Hi-Point, either you are one heck of a marksman or the other shooters need to adjust their medications.

Just kidding around...just because it looks like a hair dryer doesn't mean it ain't accurate ;)

Soap
March 22, 2004, 05:10 PM
The Hi-Points are not great guns but they can serve the purpose if pressed into it. I would never carry one with a loaded chamber. Personally, in this price range I would buy a Makarov from SOG before I even thought about touching a Hi-Point.

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