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pleopard
August 6, 2013, 10:43 AM
I've got a Lee 25th kit with 243 and 30-06 dies. I've deprimed/straightened 300+ cartridges without an issue. THEN I read that I need to lubricate the cartridges before running them through the neck resizing die ... Oops ...

Really, I haven't had a single cartridge get stuck. What kids of problems can I expect from this if I don't start lubing my cases?

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USSR
August 6, 2013, 11:19 AM
Really, I haven't had a single cartridge get stuck. What kids of problems can I expect from this if I don't start lubing my cases?

:eek: It's true, God watches over children, fools and drunks. You can expect a stuck case.

Don

tyeo098
August 6, 2013, 11:34 AM
Lube your cases.
Its easy and ensures proper operation.

I used Kiwi-brand Mink oil shoe waterproofer I got from the local grocery store :)

pleopard
August 6, 2013, 11:50 AM
I got a tube of cream with the Lee 25th, I just coat the outside of the shell and inside the neck right?

jmorris
August 6, 2013, 11:53 AM
I need to lubricate the cartridges before running them through the neck resizing die

I have gotten away with neck sizing without lube but don't even try it if you decide to full length size.

steve4102
August 6, 2013, 12:05 PM
I've got a Lee 25th kit with 243 and 30-06 dies. I've deprimed/straightened 300+ cartridges without an issue. THEN I read that I need to lubricate the cartridges before running them through the neck resizing die ... Oops ..

I'm going to assume you are using Lee dies. Yes?

If so, then NO you do not need to lube your brass when using the Lee Neck sizing die.

The Lee neck die is a "collet" die and requires no lube. You should take the die apart, clean out all the crap that came with it and lightly lube the die itself, but no need to lube any brass.

BBQJOE
August 6, 2013, 12:09 PM
I give my brass a light spray of silicon just to help things along on my Loadmaster.

Rule3
August 6, 2013, 12:29 PM
Use Pledge if you do not have lube.

steve4102
August 6, 2013, 12:47 PM
I give my brass a light spray of silicon just to help things along on my Loadmaster.

Do you do this with a Lee Collet die in your Loadmaster?

jmorris
August 6, 2013, 01:07 PM
Steve is right if you are using the collet dies.

http://leeprecision.com/reloading-dies/rifle-dies/lee-collet-dies/

There is no loading system that will load more accurate ammunition than Lee Collet Dies. No one but Lee has ever dared make a guarantee like this *-- Smallest group size or your money back. A collet squeezes the case neck against a precision mandrel for a perfect fit with minimum run-out.No case lube is needed. Cases last ten times longer, so the savings on only 35 cases will pay for the dies.*Maximum accuracy is usually achieved by seating the bullet out far enough to touch or almost touch the rifling. This provides the shot start pressure normally supplied by the crimp. That's why a dead length bullet seater is included to complete the most accurate reloading system ever made. These dies size only the neck to preserve the perfect fit of fire forming. Only reload cases that have been fired in your gun. Not recommended for autoloaders, slide or lever action guns.

pleopard
August 6, 2013, 01:11 PM
Yes, I am using Lee collett dies, thanks

steve4102
August 6, 2013, 01:21 PM
Yes, I am using Lee collett dies,

Just remember, when you switch over to your Full Length die, you MUST lube. Only the Lee Collet neck sizing die is lube free.

rsrocket1
August 6, 2013, 01:21 PM
Don't need lube with the collet neck sizing dies, but it would be a good idea to chamber each empty case after neck sizing in your gun. The bodies do stretch and eventually they get too long and will result in either a very tight bolt closure or failure to close the bolt. At that time, you should bump the shoulder back a few thousandths. You can do this using the full length die screwed partially in.

If you have a headspace gauge you can instead measure each case against the max case headspace that will fit in your gun, but the actual chamber test also works and it's free.

dagger dog
August 6, 2013, 05:14 PM
When you do full length size use the lube sparingly a little goes a long way, over lubing can cause problems.

witchhunter
August 6, 2013, 10:49 PM
Be careful not to lube the shoulder.

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