What's pictured on this firearm???


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Gary in Pennsylvania
March 22, 2004, 11:06 AM
First off...

56.6 dial up people beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This pic is very big. (MAKE SURE YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE OVER THE PIC AND ENLARGE IT TO IT'S MAX SIZE OF 1.8 MEG --- GREAT DETAIL THERE)

What's mounted atop the M-16 belonging to the soldier on the right? -->http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/hres.pl?Lbox_cap=963948&dir=Photo

Here is a link (dial-up friendly) that has a description/caption about the pic (and others!) --->http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/news_images.pl?Lbox=defenselink.March_19_2004&view_cap=1&ban=4&cc=4&lbc=0&tc=12&dir=&vn=&ref=defenselink


Back to the thing mounted on the M-16.........that isn't MILES gear. What is it?

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pauli
March 22, 2004, 11:30 AM
can't comment on the subject directly, but you know... you COULD crop that pic. we don't actually need to see the shirts in the background, etc :p

Gary in Pennsylvania
March 22, 2004, 11:35 AM
Sorry - I dunno how.

AJ Dual
March 22, 2004, 11:42 AM
I believe it's a LAM, possibly with dual visible red, and IR beams for use with bare eyes NV goggles. I've seen lots of them in infantry pics from Iraq.

It's designation is PEQ-sumpthin'...


Here it is... I Google'd "PEQ and LAM" and came up with this.

http://www.nightline-inc.com/nightline/catalog/AN-PEQ-2.htm


To crop the pic:

It looks as though Gary isn't hosting the pics so cropping them directly wouldn't be possible. He's just linking to a .mil site.

To crop that pic you'd have to:

Right-click the pic on the original page, and choose "Save As..." to save the .JPG to your own PC.

Open the pic in a graphics program, most all PC's have one somewhere, likely came with your scanner or digi-cam software, grab the tool button that lookes like a dotted-line box, drag the box around the portion of the pic you want, go to the "Edit" menu, choose "Cut". The boxed portion will vanish from the pic.

Go to the "File menu" choose "New", then on the new blank picture, choose "Paste" from the "Edit" menu. You may also be able to save a few steps if your "Edit" menu has "Paste as New Image" option. Go to "File" choose "Save As", and save the pic.

Then go post the pic to your private web space your ISP gives you, usually about 5 megabytes or so, with a FTP utility, and change the [IMG]URL in your original post to reflect the URL of the cropped picture on your webspace.

See? It's easy... ;)

tiberius
March 22, 2004, 11:46 AM
Here it is cropped. It's still 100k so I'm not gonna display it on the thread.

Brian Williams
March 22, 2004, 11:53 AM
Here is a smaller image
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=886042

para.2
March 22, 2004, 12:24 PM
AJ dual is correct .
It is an IR laser aiming device, to be used in conjunction with Night vision.
And, for the really anal among us.... He's not a soldier ( Army). He's a Marine.:rolleyes: :uhoh: :o

Zak Smith
March 22, 2004, 12:34 PM
It's an AN/PEQ-2 or variant.

http://www.nightline-inc.com/nightline/catalog/AN-PEQ-2.htm

http://www.nightline-inc.com/nightline/Assets/catalog/AN-PEQ-2_big01_sh.jpg


AN/PEQ-2 is a dual laser system developed to allow a combination of both pin point aiming and broad beam target illumination. It can be handheld or mounted to a weapon for operation. AN/PEQ-2 is available in three models allowing a selection of laser power, infrared only, or infrared/visible light source.
AN/PEQ-2 when weapon mounted allows both lasers to be bore sighted individually. Each laser has its on azimuth and elevation adjustment knobs. Mounting is with a rail grabber, optional brackets are available. Cable switches are supplied that attach to the weapon for firing the lasers. When used in a handheld mode AN/PEQ-2 is activated by depressing the fire button located on the top of the system.
Selective operation of AN/PEQ-2 is controlled by the Six position switch just to the rear of the fire button. Options include the following:
When underwater, the mode switch should be OFF to preclude water pressure on the button from inadvertently turning ON the unit. Low power is used to reduce night vision bloom on close targets. It is also useful for training because it operates at the eye safe level of laser beam output power. High power is used for aiming or pointing at long distance targets without using the illuminator. The illumination beam operates at full power. Adjustment of the size of the beam up to 10 degrees is controlled at the focus knob) The aiming beam operates at low power and the illumination beam operates at full power for closer range targets. The aiming beam operates at high power and the illumination beam operates at full power for longer range targets.

-z

MaterDei
March 22, 2004, 12:37 PM
Now that one riddle is solved, what is the yellow tipped device hanging near the right thigh of the marine on the left?

Zak Smith
March 22, 2004, 12:41 PM
It looks like a GPS to me, but that's just a guess.

-z

Gary in Pennsylvania
March 22, 2004, 12:46 PM
Para.2 said He's not a soldier ( Army). He's a Marine.

No problem in pointing that out. :cool:



And as for MaterDei , I agree with that question.

If that is, in fact, a GPS of sorts - it must be aftermarket. I cannot imagine any soldier/marine from any country allowed to carry such an "anti-tactical" device. Sure, we're always drilled about 'noise and light discipline', but proper cover and concealment is just as important.

Those bright colors are a no-go!

cookhj
March 22, 2004, 01:08 PM
the newest ones in use now are the PEQ-4's. it's so you can shoot while using NVG's. they're cool, but i'm not to keen on them. then again, i've only used them once.

KaceCoyote
March 22, 2004, 02:18 PM
I have like that -exact- same GPS no kidding. Even the lanyard is the same lenght! Rock on garmin

williamcrane
March 22, 2004, 02:26 PM
Para.2 beat me to it. They're not soldiers, they're Marines - the one on the left is in the new USMC digital BDUs - helmet cover on the one on right is also new pattern.:cool:

Mr. Mysterious
March 22, 2004, 05:36 PM
The Peq-4 are kind of cool...we have them in my unit, but then again we are infantry. A guy I know in Iraq had a kill from a guard tower at about 250-300m using peq4 and pvs-14 (nods). It was mounted on a run of the mill M4. They were taking fire from some guy going cyclic with an AK....people on the ground gave some supressive fire, he popped up...saw the guy and popped him.

He said they got really good with them shooting dogs around Baghdad.

They aren't the greatest thing, but they sure beat a PVS-4.

Johnny Guest
March 22, 2004, 07:45 PM
How come this question is posed in the Handguns: General Discussion forum?

Johnny

Wanderer
March 22, 2004, 08:37 PM
Why does the one guy have an empty knife sheath on his gear?

Mr. Mysterious
March 23, 2004, 12:32 AM
Why does the one guy have an empty knife sheath on his gear?

I was wondering that too...but then again if he wants to get caught with his blade missing that is his problem. But then again if he is like me when I'm in the field I have a: 1) bayonet (on my pistol belt), 2) a fighting knife (various locations...I like on my left shoulder area) 3) A gerber (belt), 4) A CRKT M-16 (in right pocket), and either a boot knife and/or a beater knife somewhere else. One can never have too many blades when in the field.

I sure wish that we could bring personal owned pistols like in previous generations...

Other things about the picture...

1) You usually don't see many Marines wearing camo bands

2) The guy on the left is wearing normal leg boots with the new camo pattern as opposed to the new polish free work boots.

3) The general shape of their equipment is pretty ratty.

4) What is up with the GPS...I would NEVER EVER be caught dead with a high visibility item (yellow) in a field enviroment let alone in a hot zone like Hati. If I was that CPLs squad leader or platoon sgt I'd smoke his you know whats.

and

5) These guys are on patrol but they are complacent. That gets people killed. You have 3 guys looking at each other (the two in the picture and the camera man). Any of those hatians could pull something out...have we not learned any lessons boys?

Jim March
March 23, 2004, 12:47 AM
Wouldn't that white cannister (smoke?) be an even bigger problem than the smaller yellow GPS?

Tierhog
March 23, 2004, 12:50 AM
Yes those look like the new digital MarPat cammies, but the Corporal cheverons on his chest are Army. Marine insignia have crossed rifles below the cheverons. His has none. Whats up with that?

Mr. Mysterious
March 23, 2004, 01:41 AM
Yes those look like the new digital MarPat cammies, but the Corporal cheverons on his chest are Army. Marine insignia have crossed rifles below the cheverons. His has none. Whats up with that?

I think that the Marines are like us Army guys and no longer wear the old style rank on their arm sleeves. What is on his body armor is collar rank what the Army wears...and I'm pretty sure it is the same thing that the Marines wear on their BDU collars.

MaterDei
March 23, 2004, 06:52 AM
They wear rank insignia there now due to the fact that the NOD bracket on the kevlar helmet no longer allows it where it traditionally has been.

Tierhog
March 23, 2004, 07:20 AM
I understand all that, what I meant was its the wrong insignia for a Marine E4. He might as well be wearing petty officer stripes. No Marine I know would wear Army rank if he could help it. Nor would he be allowed to.

RTFM
March 23, 2004, 09:06 AM
We could nit pick them all day long.
The are there, we are where ever we are.

Army, Marine. Full time, N.G. Reserve. Whatever.

God bless them for doing their duty for our country!
And I hope they come home safe.

RTFM

CZ100B
March 23, 2004, 11:01 AM
Yes those look like the new digital MarPat cammies, but the Corporal cheverons on his chest are Army. Marine insignia have crossed rifles below the cheverons. His has none. Whats up with that?

Those look like the new 'Interceptor' armour jackets, and they are probably on loan from the Army, until the Marines can get enough made for themselves. There still aren't nearly enough of those new jackets to go around.

Jeremy

sturmruger
March 23, 2004, 12:13 PM
I have an idea maybe the whole photo is staged and those guys aren't marines or soldier just models?? That would explain all the mismatched items.

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