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rduchateau2954
August 17, 2013, 05:06 AM
Just bought a NIB Bear Gameover, 6 carbon arrows, and a block to shoot at.

1st shot - String hits arm
2nd shot - String hits arm, right after I flinch like a little girl, miss the block, hitting the only piece of metal in the whole freaking backyard, and shatter the brand new arrow.

Went better after that, was shooting at roughly 30 yrds, just before the skeeters chased me inside the house, I managed to hit my arm one more time.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/32AA7437-5937-428E-BDA8-229820FA1A67-4752-0000041F12BA96E6_zpsc7ff62d6.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/32AA7437-5937-428E-BDA8-229820FA1A67-4752-0000041F12BA96E6_zpsc7ff62d6.jpg.html)
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/58D86983-AB72-4D63-94EA-D1875C4A4D88-4752-0000041ED006A8AB_zpsa572ee93.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/58D86983-AB72-4D63-94EA-D1875C4A4D88-4752-0000041ED006A8AB_zpsa572ee93.jpg.html)

The bruise is bigger than it looks, a decent amount of arm flesh around the bruise is swollen up like an egg when you whack your head into something.

Shot about 25 arrows, groups were all about the same size.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/18A7A107-26D8-41D8-BE71-7FDB38CBB8DF-4752-0000041EDB14FFA5_zpsf3e3d5e6.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/18A7A107-26D8-41D8-BE71-7FDB38CBB8DF-4752-0000041EDB14FFA5_zpsf3e3d5e6.jpg.html)

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.44Rich
August 17, 2013, 05:58 AM
i did the same thing when o got my first about 2 years ago. keep it up, its gets better and quick. as far as the arm goes get an arm gaurd of make sure your draw isnt longer than what you should have. and no long draws are not just for tall people. im 6'3" and shoot a 29 inch draw. my bud is 5'9"-5'10" and shoots a 32....

.44Rich
August 17, 2013, 06:08 AM
i guess i should cap that with he has freakish long arms and i prefer to shoot a slightly shorter draw than what was recomended to me.

rduchateau2954
August 17, 2013, 06:32 AM
I'm shooting a 31" draw which is what was recommended by my local shop, I was keeping my elbow locked when I took the first few shots.

tarosean
August 17, 2013, 07:07 AM
start a lot closer to your target then slowly move back and of course pick up an arm guard till you learn not to torque the bow... :)


Its addictive.

grubbylabs
August 17, 2013, 11:32 AM
Locking your elbow forces that arm out into the path of the string. Your elbow should be just before lock. If there is a club near by I would suggest becoming a member and finding a mentor who can help you learn the basics of shooting.

cat_IT_guy
August 17, 2013, 12:37 PM
Agree with the recommendation for an arm guard - it can be great fun to show off those colorful red and purple bruises tho - many will gasp and ask what happened. I recently killed my first arrow by "knocking" it - hitting an arrow already stuck in the target from behind with a successive arrow.

MCgunner
August 17, 2013, 12:50 PM
To keep that draw consistent until you get used to it, you might try a kisser button. I have an arm guard, but i don't need it for my compound. My recurves will sting me without it, though.

Lennyjoe
August 17, 2013, 02:09 PM
I roll my elbow out just enough at full draw to keep my arm clear and not affect torque on the bow. You will learn this over time.

Welcome to the wonderful world of archery. Once you get everything set up and are comfortable shooting, research 3D shoots in your area. These type of shoots benefit hunters as it helps your shooting, yardage judgements and the fact that not every shot is clear of obstructions.

Enjoy.

grubbylabs
August 17, 2013, 03:33 PM
3D shoots are a kick in the pants. So is shooting ground squirrels. I don't know what was cooler, shooting an elk at 5 feet or a ground squirrel at 50 yards.

Until you get the hang of it shooting ground squirrels will cost you a lot of arrows, but you will have a lot more confidence about shooting big game animals

rduchateau2954
August 17, 2013, 05:06 PM
To keep that draw consistent until you get used to it, you might try a kisser button. I have an arm guard, but i don't need it for my compound. My recurves will sting me without it, though.
I actually bought one but I was told it wouldn't work. Even with the bow cranked up to 31" my release is my "cam kisser"

rduchateau2954
August 17, 2013, 05:07 PM
Locking your elbow forces that arm out into the path of the string. Your elbow should be just before lock. If there is a club near by I would suggest becoming a member and finding a mentor who can help you learn the basics of shooting.
I've got a work buddy that has been shooting for 20 years. He taught me correct form, I just threw it all out the window when I took those first few shots.

rduchateau2954
August 17, 2013, 05:13 PM
I roll my elbow out just enough at full draw to keep my arm clear and not affect torque on the bow. You will learn this over time.

Welcome to the wonderful world of archery. Once you get everything set up and are comfortable shooting, research 3D shoots in your area. These type of shoots benefit hunters as it helps your shooting, yardage judgements and the fact that not every shot is clear of obstructions.

Enjoy.
There are several of these around town. I can't wait to be proficient enough to go!

There is also a lot of land around here that is legal to bowhunt that isn't legal to gun hunt.

I also haven't been deer hunting in a long time just because of the density of yahoos wandering public land with rifles anywhere within an hour of my house. Used to have private family land but family greed took that away after my grandfather passed. If I get good enough by this bow season, I can actually go deer hunting in peace again! It's pretty much all I have been thinking about for a few weeks now!

rduchateau2954
August 17, 2013, 05:14 PM
3D shoots are a kick in the pants. So is shooting ground squirrels. I don't know what was cooler, shooting an elk at 5 feet or a ground squirrel at 50 yards.

Until you get the hang of it shooting ground squirrels will cost you a lot of arrows, but you will have a lot more confidence about shooting big game animals
Eesh, with the cost of carbon arrows, I'm not sure how many I am willing to sacrifice.

Missionary
August 17, 2013, 07:20 PM
Greetings
For simple practice building your consistent draw do not think you must use carbon. I have used aluminum arrows since I started with a Shakespear fiberglass bow 50 years ago.
I still use cheap aluminum arrows for bunny hunting and practice. Two weeks before deer season I switch to older carbon arrows for practice. Then 3 days before season I switch to the carbon arrows I will hunt with with the same weight blunt point attached. I use recurves with no gizmos attatched. But I will say just starting out a simple sight will help. I did not know about a sight when I was a kid. But hundreds of hours of prctice taught me what I needed.
Mike in Peru

MCgunner
August 18, 2013, 09:43 PM
I actually bought one but I was told it wouldn't work. Even with the bow cranked up to 31" my release is my "cam kisser"

Well, a kisser button helped my consistency. I don't use a release. I've gotten used to putting the web of my thumb onto my lower jaw, now, is my "kisser button".

I don't use carbon arrows at all and plan to hunt with aluminum. I buy Easton 2117s at Academy for under 4 bucks a pop. I'm so cheap, if I bend one, I'll sit on the couch while watching TV and straighten 'em best I can for practice. I have new arrows with broadheads for hunting. They're sitting there on my old gun rack just waiting. I'm 60 years old and will be bow hunting first time seriously. So, I've been shooting a long time, but I've not hunted. I've got leafy wear mesh camo and plenty of inserts for my thermocell. :D

Carmmond
August 19, 2013, 12:34 AM
Your brace hight is almost 8" you should not be hitting your arm... are you sure your sized right? This page has some great info on sizing just remember if you use a loop that will shorten your bows draw lenght.

http://www.huntersfriend.com/bow_sizing_adjustment_guide.html
http://www.huntersfriend.com/compound_bow_draw_length_discussion.html

With your bow shooting around 300fps I would not be shooting bent arrows not that you said you were going to. Your in GB so I know you just had a Cableas open up by you so you could look at the GoldTip arrows they are not that expensive and are a great arrow that I've used for years, I've lost track of how many deer I've killed with them.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Arrows-Shafts/Carbon%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104192280/i/103856580/Gold-Tip-Expedition-Hunter-Arrows/1202979.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fcarbon%2F_%2FN-1100022%2FNs-MIN_SALE_PRICE%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMM%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104192280%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BMM%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104192280%3Bcat103856580

The thing that wories me is with the lenght of your brace hight your string should never get that close to your arm. I shoot an Elite Pulse with a six inch brace hight and the string has never hit my arm. I know you said your let your form slip for a couple of shots but again with that BH that should never happen even with bad form. My wingspan from the link above is 73 divided by 2.5 -1" for my loop makes the drawlenght on my bow 28".

Ridgerunner665
August 19, 2013, 12:37 AM
Don't feel bad...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/Ridgerunner665/IMG_20130705_125103_697_zps2aefe7a4.jpg (http://s217.photobucket.com/user/Ridgerunner665/media/IMG_20130705_125103_697_zps2aefe7a4.jpg.html)


And I've been bowhunting for 30 years!

tarosean
August 19, 2013, 12:47 AM
Eesh, with the cost of carbon arrows, I'm not sure how many I am willing to sacrifice.

still quite a bit cheaper than bullets. Breaking them doesnt bother me as I can generally scavenge parts.. Loosing them however chaps my hide.

rduchateau2954
August 19, 2013, 02:41 AM
Your brace hight is almost 8" you should not be hitting your arm... are you sure your sized right? This page has some great info on sizing just remember if you use a loop that will shorten your bows draw lenght.

http://www.huntersfriend.com/bow_sizing_adjustment_guide.html
http://www.huntersfriend.com/compound_bow_draw_length_discussion.html

With your bow shooting around 300fps I would not be shooting bent arrows not that you said you were going to. Your in GB so I know you just had a Cableas open up by you so you could look at the GoldTip arrows they are not that expensive and are a great arrow that I've used for years, I've lost track of how many deer I've killed with them.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Arrows-Shafts/Carbon%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104192280/i/103856580/Gold-Tip-Expedition-Hunter-Arrows/1202979.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fcarbon%2F_%2FN-1100022%2FNs-MIN_SALE_PRICE%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMM%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104192280%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BMM%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104192280%3Bcat103856580

The thing that wories me is with the lenght of your brace hight your string should never get that close to your arm. I shoot an Elite Pulse with a six inch brace hight and the string has never hit my arm. I know you said your let your form slip for a couple of shots but again with that BH that should never happen even with bad form. My wingspan from the link above is 73 divided by 2.5 -1" for my loop makes the drawlenght on my bow 28".
The bow is set up right, I was shooting the wrong way.

With my first two shots I was holding the bow wrong with my right hand (shooting lefty) with a tight fist straight up and down. This turned my forearm in to my string and resulted in me hitting my arm.

As far as the arrows go, I didn't think carbon arrows could bend. The one in the first picture is shattered, no way I could shoot that again.

There is a cabelas that just opened, I have held off for the sake of my bank account.

rduchateau2954
August 19, 2013, 02:45 AM
still quite a bit cheaper than bullets. Breaking them doesnt bother me as I can generally scavenge parts.. Loosing them however chaps my hide.
Cheaper and readily available!

These are the arrows I'm shooting

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Arrows-Shafts/Carbon%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104192280/i/103856580/Easton-Aftermath-with-Blazers/1579961.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fcarbon%2Feaston%2F_%2FN-1100022%2B1000003318%2FNe-1000003318%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMM%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104192280%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BMM%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104192280%3Bcat103856580

MCgunner
August 19, 2013, 01:55 PM
$45? Has to be a dozen. Here's what I shoot. I draw 28"....

http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_31423_-1

Carmmond
August 19, 2013, 03:33 PM
Nope thats for 6 of them.

He has a 31" draw so if he is not using an overdraw thats going to be a long arrow:what: I like to keep my broadhead in front of my hand but with a 31" draw thats going to be hard to do.

grubbylabs
August 19, 2013, 06:19 PM
The price of arrows ranger from a little under a 100 per dozen up to you don't want to know.

With modern compound bows it is very important that you shoot the correct arrow for your bow. It needs to way enough so no less than IBO weight (your proshop can explain this a little more in depth.) and they should be in good order, as in not bent cracked or other wise damaged or bent. Having a carbon arrow explode in your bow is not only scary but dangerous. You should always flex the arrow before you use it again, if you hear or feel any thing funny like crunching or grinding you should toss the arrow.

As far as aluminum goes, their is nothing wrong with them other than its really hard to get light ones that are spined for a full size man drawing 60+ pounds. I would wager your final arrow weight would ideally be about 400 - 425 grains plus or minus a few grains. With aluminum you could be 100 grains more easy enough.

Shooting 3D shoots will also cost you quite a few arrows as you learn to judge yardage and all the tricks they do to mess with you, like putting a few similar sized targets about the same distance out and then putting a smaller or larger one out about the same distance as the last few. Or having you shoot over a small draw or ravine.

Beaman and a few others like Gold Tip make some nice inexpensive arrows that will get you going for under a hundred a dozen.

Lennyjoe
August 19, 2013, 07:13 PM
Half the reason why I prefer bowhunting is that you don't have a thousand yahoo's running around with a gun on public land trying to shoot anything that moves.

The other half is the thrill of the hunt and getting within 50 yards (my max allowable shooting distance) of game.

MCgunner
August 19, 2013, 10:33 PM
So, did Hiowatha shoot carbon? Well, I guess so, in as much as cellulose is an organic compound.

Jeez, all I really wanna do is kill a deer from 25 yards. The aluminum seems to be working for that since I can hit a paper plate every time I do my part from 40 yards. It's only $3.89 a pop for them. $100 a dozen? SHEESH! That's $8.33 a pop by my calculator. OUCH! Not too many of those and I could buy myself a wood lathe and some dowel rod and make some of Hiowatha's carbon arrows. I don't plan on competing in anything, just killing a deer out of gun season.

Soon as I get good enough, I'm going to kill one with my stick bow. I don't have to take a differential equations course to do THAT, I hope. :rolleyes: Don't know about the OP, but me, I like to keep things simple...and affordable. :D

grubbylabs
August 19, 2013, 11:22 PM
Like I said, its not that aluminum is wrong, if they work for you shoot them. The big advantage to Carbon is they can bend, and as soon as they do, they go right back to straight, aluminum's don't do that so well.

The other advantage is weight, Carbons, even the cheaper ones are way lighter than aluminum arrows. While speed is some times over rated, it does help with yardage guestamation. The flatter your trajectory the more forging it is to by off by a couple of yards. Being off by 5 yards is not such a big deal if you shoot fast enough.

But what ever you do, never shoot a wood or fiber glass arrow from your bow. The only exception is a bow fishing arrow. Traditional bows are quite different, but modern compound bows are quite a bit different.

Oh and Hiowatha did not have a modern compound bow to shoot.

rduchateau2954
August 20, 2013, 03:37 AM
Nope thats for 6 of them.

He has a 31" draw so if he is not using an overdraw thats going to be a long arrow:what: I like to keep my broadhead in front of my hand but with a 31" draw thats going to be hard to do.

Could you explain this a bit more please? I shoot a 31" 340gr arrow with a whisker biscuit.

03Shadowbob
August 20, 2013, 06:24 AM
You must have a huge wingspan. My DL is 29" and my arrows are either 26.75" or 27".
MC I wouldn't be worried about aluminum vs carbon. Aluminum have been killing for years just fine. Ballistic reasons I shoot carbon but wouldn't hesitate to shoot aluminum under 30yards. At 40 yards, carbons fly faster, flatter and group better for me anyways.
I just picked up a dozen Easton Carbon Raiders at Dicks for $45. That is cheaper than the aluminum and I believe they are re-badged Beman ICSs.

03Shadowbob
August 20, 2013, 06:37 AM
You don't need .001 or .003 straightness (read $$$) for hunting accuracy or efficiency. Here's one of my groups at 20 yards
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/BJCWALL/photo_zps394c6c05.jpg

Carmmond
August 20, 2013, 09:36 AM
"Could you explain this a bit more please? I shoot a 31" 340gr arrow with a whisker biscuit."

Don't worry your arrows are fine I was just stating that you would need an arrow around 31" unless you were using an overdraw rest. Back around ten years ago a lot of bow companies used overdraw rests so they could claim higher fps out of the bows (shorter lighter arrow) but me and a bunch of other shooters never did like the fact that the broad head was behind your hand at full draw.

All said and done shoot what you’re comfortable with, confidence in your gear will show in the field. I know a lot of hunters that like heavier aluminum arrows because it will quiet the bow down quite a bit. I shoot carbons because of the flatter trajectory but yes with the lighter arrow the bow will make more noise.

rduchateau2954
August 20, 2013, 09:52 AM
Nice target you got their shadowbob!

Shot this group an hour ago. 25 yards.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/FBC18638-03B2-4775-B05E-39DCF5A2615B-311-0000002A10B0C986_zps473ddbac.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/FBC18638-03B2-4775-B05E-39DCF5A2615B-311-0000002A10B0C986_zps473ddbac.jpg.html)

MCgunner
August 20, 2013, 10:38 AM
Well, my feeder is 25 yards from my stand on the dot. Actually, I have two feeder set ups on my place, both 25 yards. I can't see a whole lot farther to shoot. Could conceivably get a 40 yard shot, max. I set up my target at one of the feeders shooting out of my tree stand to check POI. I was hitting the center every shot. So, I figure I'm good to go. :D I guess time will tell, eh? I also figure the aluminum being heavier will penetrate well. That'd be more important if I get a shot at a hog. I know the lighter the arrow, the flatter it'll shoot, but I'm not ready to shoot much further than 25 on a deer, 35 maybe. I'm 100 percent confident at that range.

What I'll do when I hunt is sit in my stand and lase this tree or that, read the yardage, so I'll know what range a deer is when he steps out. No, Hiowatha didn't have a laser range finder, either. :D

tarosean
August 20, 2013, 04:06 PM
$100 a dozen? SHEESH! That's $8.33 a pop by my calculator.

your forgetting field tips or broadheads in mechanical or fixed, etc.

grubbylabs
August 20, 2013, 04:20 PM
if all your doing is 25 yards then I doubt you will have an issue with yardage guessing. And of course your are absolutely right the heavier the arrow the better for critters such as hogs.

Like I said their not wrong, their just different. If I was sitting and waiting on a hog I would shoot as heavy an arrow as I could with as heavy a broad head as I could. I know they are not bullet proof, or arrow proof, but at 25 yards you only have benefits and no negatives as far as I can see.

MCgunner
August 20, 2013, 07:38 PM
Well, I also have another problem with a weak right eye. I can't see that well and I ain't going to try to shoot a left handed bow. I do that with rifles and shotguns, but bow shooting takes more coordination and strong arm strength. That's another reason I must limit my range, though. I simply get too many misses at 45 yards, even though I'm shooting at the known range, just from not having 20-20 vision in that eye. At best, it's 20-70 corrected, always has been, that way from birth. If I can stab a deer with a bow, hey, it'll be a real accomplishment, but the heavily wooded terrain works in my favor here to keep range acceptable. :D

Uh, for small game, I'll stick with my rifles, pistols, and shotguns. :D

grubbylabs
August 20, 2013, 11:52 PM
Another piece of advice I herd a while back from a guy who's dad could literally get "buck fever" and mess up any shot no matter how easy, was to get flagging the same color as your pins and mark your yardages on trees and what not with that.

For example, if your 20 yard pin is red, tie some red flagging to various objects that are about 20 yards out from your stand.

And the same thing for your 30 and 40 yard pins. Granted this does not work very well if you are spotting and stalking, but for most of you white tail hunters who site in a tree stand or other type of blind, I think it would work out quite well.

The main thing to remember is that you can't shoot often enough, no matter how long you have been shooting, and to always shoot your broad heads before hunting season to make sure they are going where you think they are.

Always wax your string, depending on how often you shoot. If you are shooting daily, you should clean and wax it 2-3 times a week depending on how many arrows you are sending down range.

rduchateau2954
August 21, 2013, 08:36 AM
That's a good idea grubbylabs.

When you wax your string, do you do the whole thing or just the rear string? Bowstring or cables as well?

grubbylabs
August 21, 2013, 09:00 AM
I wax every thing, it all moves and twists and creates heat.

I use a piece of floss or serving looped around the string once and work it back and forth up and down the string to clean the old wax off, Then I use either my clean finger or much preferably a clean peace of leather to rub the wax in. Rub it till its hot, that way it melts into the string.

Carmmond
August 21, 2013, 09:05 AM
On your Game Over the cables are string so you would do both the cables and the string. Back in the day cables were cable and you did not have to wax them because... well they were cable:D

rduchateau2954
August 21, 2013, 09:14 AM
Lol I was trying to be technical.

rduchateau2954
August 21, 2013, 12:42 PM
Got some pictures of me shooting today. Lemme know what you think.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/392C5281-1CF0-4511-A804-E8BD73688EB3-181-000000057ACE264F_zps20b45a60.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/392C5281-1CF0-4511-A804-E8BD73688EB3-181-000000057ACE264F_zps20b45a60.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/1B309DA1-1EEF-415F-9797-24EA662B95B3-181-0000000575367FD5_zps1594385b.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/1B309DA1-1EEF-415F-9797-24EA662B95B3-181-0000000575367FD5_zps1594385b.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/E7B5D2B3-805E-487D-BEBD-8E610F6ABC89-181-000000056E195ED7_zpsa64eaa49.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/E7B5D2B3-805E-487D-BEBD-8E610F6ABC89-181-000000056E195ED7_zpsa64eaa49.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/DDCDD4F8-C6E7-4030-A559-61AC14C42A90-181-00000005683902B7_zpsc86f1462.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/DDCDD4F8-C6E7-4030-A559-61AC14C42A90-181-00000005683902B7_zpsc86f1462.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/B7D86078-A2E9-49F6-B10A-6560AE5B8347-181-000000056288BC1D_zpsa5e17e5d.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/B7D86078-A2E9-49F6-B10A-6560AE5B8347-181-000000056288BC1D_zpsa5e17e5d.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/B7D86078-A2E9-49F6-B10A-6560AE5B8347-181-000000056288BC1D_zpsa5e17e5d.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/B7D86078-A2E9-49F6-B10A-6560AE5B8347-181-000000056288BC1D_zpsa5e17e5d.jpg.html)

Wasn't sure why I pulled this shot until I looked at the picture.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rduchateau2954/Guns/CEA7646F-6064-461E-BC9F-D3F0599C280C-181-00000005809C7443_zps5bdc57dc.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/rduchateau2954/media/Guns/CEA7646F-6064-461E-BC9F-D3F0599C280C-181-00000005809C7443_zps5bdc57dc.jpg.html)

Carmmond
August 21, 2013, 01:47 PM
rduchateau2954 it's kind of hard to see at that angle..... have them stand to the left and right of you and take pictures of the front of your body and back of your body from a 90 degree angle. We will be able to see a lot more then. Have you mesured your Arm-span from the link I had posted?
http://www.huntersfriend.com/bow_sizing_adjustment_guide.html

It looks like your draw is to long to me from what you posted your arm is way to straight with no bend at all thats why your smacking your arm. If you would shorten up your draw your arm would have a slight bend facing away from the string.

Humor me and just mesure your Arm-span and let us know what it is but if your at 31" now it looks like you should be around a 30-29" draw.

grubbylabs
August 21, 2013, 02:07 PM
+1 To what carmmond said.

Plus get a wrist sling. If you are thinking about grabbing the bow or holding it so you won't drop it while your shooting, it is going to mess you up every time.

03Shadowbob
August 22, 2013, 08:19 AM
Also looks like you are bending your neck down to the peep. Go get fitted right at a local shop. I think you'll find your DL is too long and or peep is in the wrong spot. Your head should be as vertical as possible.

340PD
August 22, 2013, 09:35 AM
This is a great thread. I also decided to return to archery after 55 years away from the sport. I went to a local very Archery specific store and they took all my needs and put them into a complete bundle. All for about the price of a SIG 226. I was amazed that it took over one hour for them to do all the measurements, paper tune, and add the accessories. I started with a very low draw wt. as I was very nervous due to rotator cuff repairs to both shoulders a couple of years age. First shot, my forearm looks exactly like yours, everyone laughed and now I am baptized.
I now know everything about the Matthews Bow Company.
Lots of fun with my grandson and I get the benefit if walking downrange and returning with my previously fired ammo.
BTW. My local Dick's Sporting Goods is running a 50% off the second purchase on Easton arrows. I just yesterday picked up a couple of dozen carbon practice arrows for $44.00/dz. + tips.

tarosean
August 22, 2013, 10:04 AM
Also looks like you are bending your neck down to the peep. Go get fitted right at a local shop. I think you'll find your DL is too long and or peep is in the wrong spot. Your head should be as vertical as possible.

Agreed...

OP Read this:

http://archeryhistory.com/archerytalk/The_Nuts&Bolts_of_Archery.pdf

docnyt
August 22, 2013, 05:24 PM
I've also been recently initiated into the THR bow slap fraternity. My 2 girls took up archery in school and it piqued my interest. Never had any previous experience. Went to my local archery shop, tested out a Bowtech Carbon Knight and took it home. Never used a sling release thing until now.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/23/u2u2ajam.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/23/a3y4atad.jpg

Glad I found this thread. I didn't have a sight installed yet. Figured I would try instinctive shooting first, although that was not recommended by the archery store staff.

Carmmond
August 22, 2013, 08:15 PM
Nothing on you guys but what the heck is up with your shops...... tarosean posted a good link but the guys in the shop should have half a clue..

grubbylabs
August 22, 2013, 11:41 PM
I agree if you did not get your bow at a pro shop then you need to get to one and get your set up figured out. If you did buy from a pro shop and they let you leave with a bow that foes not fit, you need to find another shop. If they gave you advice and you ignored it, then you deserve the arm slap.

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Lennyjoe
August 23, 2013, 01:14 PM
Nice to see another lefty! I'm right handed, left eye dominant and learned to shoot lefty.

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