how strict are the US laws on sending non main gun parts out of the US?


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Jasonmackuk
August 21, 2013, 10:06 AM
Hi ive been told is not possable to send any gun related part out of the US is that true

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justashooter in pa
August 21, 2013, 12:34 PM
ATF regulates the export of certain parts, but the regs are complicated. in essence, they are concerned with prohibiting exportation of "implements of war" and their parts, and any frames (receivers) barrels, suppressors, breach mechanisms. this means that you can't send out a single screw for an M1 carbine, but you can ship a stock set for a sporting shotgun.

Jasonmackuk
August 21, 2013, 01:22 PM
Ok would that cover muzzle loading pistol parts as in hammers triggers springs ?

carbine85
August 21, 2013, 01:47 PM
I would play it safe and simply not do it.
You can ship a firearm to Canada if you want but there are a lot of hoops to jump through and you can only ship to certain businesses.
It can be very difficult to figure out what you can and can't do.

realitycheck
August 21, 2013, 02:10 PM
try to buy a red dot scope on ebay,and you get a message from the Dept. of Defense saying it cant be shipped out of the US. We don't want the insurgents guns to be able to look around corners or get better accuracy than out own troops there. Plus it keeps every red blooded American more prepared for an invasion like "Red Dawn"(?) but that's the reason!

dfariswheel
August 21, 2013, 10:13 PM
Even black powder parts get real "iffy" not only to send out of America, but mostly it's the laws in other countries that are the problem.

I doubt that US law would care about repair parts for a gun from the 1860's, but countries like England are crazy paranoid about ANY "weapon" even if it is just a part.
It's likely that customs in a European country would stop it IF they catch it coming in.

My first move would be to check the laws in the country you want the parts to go.
If they're good with it, I don't think there'd be a problem sending a few black powder firearms parts out of the US as long as it's not a frame, or possibly a barrel or cylinder.
Most all US laws address firearms receivers and items listed under the ITAR International Traffic in Arms Regulations which prohibits export of modern military goods without a permit.

Jim K
August 22, 2013, 01:11 AM
"Crazy paranoid" is right. I was leaving Heathrow one day and witnessed four (4) British police surrounding a woman and her two children, a boy about 6 and a girl about 4. Two of these fine upstanding coppers had MP5 SMGs trained on the little family, waving them in the faces of the kids and threatening loudly to shoot them.

The reason was being held by the sergeant. It was one of those souvenir "blunderbuss" toys sold to tourists in Africa, the kind with a wood stock, a piece of curtain rod for a barrel and a brass painted funnel for the muzzle end. The kids were crying, the girl was trying to hide behind her mother's skirt, and the boy was cowering against the wall, sure he would be shot any moment. The "bobby" was screaming at the woman about trying to smuggle guns into Britain, and how they were going to lock her up.

At that moment, I lost all my respect for the British police, totally. They are nothing but criminal thugs, totally ignorant and dangerous as hell to everyone around them. Yes, I am sure there are good, competent British police, and I will hear from people with stories about menacing U.S. police as well. But I will never forget those poor children and those MP5's being waved around by obviously untrained police posing a danger to everyone in the area.

Did I say anything? No, I guess I am a coward, and I really was scared that even a word from me would result in bursts of SMG fire that would kill me, the woman and kids and God only knew who else.

Jim

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