Custom Precision Rifle Build: In Details


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dbowhunter
August 22, 2013, 12:09 AM
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When starting my recent custom rifle build, I decided to chronical it on my recently created personal blog. The links to each of the 7 parts are available below.

Part 1 | Rifle’s Purpose, Platform Choice: Remington 700 Clone: Stiller Tac30 A/W Action (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/07/31/my-custom-bolt-bolt-action-precision-rifle-part-1/)

Part 2 | Barrel Blank, Caliber, and Reamer Selection: Brux Barrels, 6.5 Creedmoor, Reamer Specs (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/08/07/building-my-first-custom-bolt-action-precision-rifle-part-2/)

Part 3 | Stock/Chassis Selection: Manners T4-A Stock (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/08/09/custom-precision-rifle-build-part-3/)

Part 4 | Jewell Trigger, JEC Muzzle Brake, and Accessories
(http://nogreatercause.org/2013/08/14/custom-bolt-action-precision-rifle-build-part-4/)

Part 5 | Gunsmith Selection: Longrifles, Inc. (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/08/15/custom-bolt-action-precision-rifle-build-part-5-gunsmith-selection-longrifles-inc/)

Part 6 | Optics: Bushnell Elite Tactical ERS 3.5-21x50mm, Seekins Precision, Accuracy 1st (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/08/17/custom-bolt-action-precision-rifle-build-part-6-optics-bushnell-elite-tactical-ers-3-5-21x50mm-seekins-precision-accuracy-1st/)

Custom Rifle Project Complete: Photo Gallery (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/08/18/custom-rifle-project-complete-photo-gallery-longrifles-inc-stiller-brux-manners-jewell-bushnell-seekins-jec-customs-atlas/)


Part 1 starts like this:


A few months ago, for no particular reason I decided I wanted to try my hand at true marksmanship. I have never been what I would consider "a good shot" but I get by. But I have missed enough times, that I have reduced confidence and assume a miss with every pull of the trigger. Sure, the 'right' way to go about this is to grab a quality 22 LR and head to the range testing and building your skills, but let's be honest, we live in a NOW society and I want some instant gratification. This led me down the road of spending more money then I imagined on building a custom precision rifle.

The draw of building the rifle, selecting the goal, the intended purpose, the parts, the gunsmith, intrigues me as much as the rifle itself and the shooting to come later. I just simply love diving into a project like this with obsession-like motivation and learning as much as one possibly can while attempting to maximize the performance of each selection. In this post, I will outline some of those selections I made and my rationale for doing so. This doesn't mean I did anything the way you should, or that my way is correct in any manner. It's just my anecdote.

In no way to I believe this rifle itself will make me a better shooter, only proper practice and instruction will do that. But it is an excuse to let out my inner 'gear junkie' and spend some hard earned cash. Once complete, with no possible way to blame my equipment, we'll see if I can build my marksmanship skills into something to be proud of, or not.

Continue Reading... (http://nogreatercause.org/2013/07/31/my-custom-bolt-bolt-action-precision-rifle-part-1/)

Enjoy

Thanks.

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MtnCreek
August 22, 2013, 08:37 AM
Another wallet bites the dust due to snipershide. :)

That's a really nice rifle! Finding a good load for the creedmoor will probably be a boring task...

USSR
August 22, 2013, 09:27 AM
Nice rifle! As one of the early members on the Snipers Hide forum, I heard the siren's call for a 1,000 yard capable F Class rifle about 13 years ago. My first build was a Jack Krieger built .30-06.

http://ussr.clarityconnect.com/Win06t1.jpg

After several years of getting beat up with 190SMK's at 2900fps, I contacted Terry Cross at KMW and had my 6.5x55 built.

http://ussr.clarityconnect.com/6.5swede1.jpg
http://ussr.clarityconnect.com/6.5swede2.jpg
http://ussr.clarityconnect.com/6.5swede2a.jpg

I used, and continue to use, the Winchester Model 70 action due to it's stiffness and flat bottom, which makes for good bedding. It was good to see you weren't swayed by some of the high magnification offerings as far as scopes go. I can't remember a time when I used more than 18X magnification due to mirage, even though I had more magnification available to me.

Don

taliv
August 22, 2013, 09:42 AM
i just got a new-to-me terry cross build this past weekend. surgeon, sentinel, 260rem. :D i'll post pics later

Woolecox
August 22, 2013, 05:10 PM
Very nice rifle. I believe a custom rifle WILL make you a better marksman. You will tend to shoot more. You will tend to practice more at longer ranges. You will learn to dope the wind. You will learn exterior ballistics and programs for field calculations. If you are not a reloader, you will most likely become one (and should).

I did all of those things and more and I have become better. I have 4 custom bolt actions. There are many sources out there for increasing your accuracy and skills including all the reloading manuals. Berger is great and the last one I bought. I also just read Tony Boyer's book. He is a Hall of Fame Bench Rest competitor and most of the book pertains to that sport but is also very relevant to tactical and hunting rifles.

Tony Boyer, The Book of Rifle Accuracy (http://www.rifleaccuracybook.com)

Have fun,
Woolly

NCsmitty
August 22, 2013, 09:23 PM
Welcome to THR, dbowhunter.

That's a real nice setup, dbowhunter, but I'm still not sold on the Creedmoor at this point, though I'm sure it will do well for you.
Like USSR, I'm sold on the 6.5x55 cartridge, and it's intrinsic beauty of design. I only shoot for recreation, and do not pretend to have the knowledge and experience that he has, but I do enjoy working up loads with different combinations of powder, bullets and primers, and I have been doing it for 50 years now, in many different calibers.

You have fun with your new setup, dbowhunter.


NCsmitty

Woolecox
August 22, 2013, 09:41 PM
I am sold on anything that will hit in the same hole repeatedly. Accuracy. My great, great, great, grandaddy once told me, "Son, you can't miss anything fast enough to kill it."

You know, he was right! I have zipped through an IDPA course in 12 seconds but with five misses and 25 seconds of penalties, I was still last.

One of the reasons I am still a huge fan of the 308 Winchester, 243 Win, 260 Rem, 6.5 x anything, etc. Easy to shoot. Easy to load. Accurate.

tuj
August 23, 2013, 04:37 PM
You know...I just spent way more than that on a 22lr benchrest pedigree rifle. Dismiss the 22lr all you want. Its just as much marksmanship to shoot a 245-13x on the USBR smallbore benchrest target and take 2nd in the State Match or to hit a 3" cowbell at 260 yards with a Kimber 82G and modest ammo. I love me some rimfire action, and my shoulder and ears thank me too.

That said, welcome to THR and congratulations on your new build. I really hope it makes a true marksman out of you! Don't forget the wind flags...

Woolecox
August 23, 2013, 09:11 PM
You know...I just spent way more than that on a 22lr benchrest pedigree rifle. Dismiss the 22lr all you want. Its just as much marksmanship to shoot a 245-13x on the USBR smallbore benchrest target and take 2nd in the State Match or to hit a 3" cowbell at 260 yards with a Kimber 82G and modest ammo. I love me some rimfire action, and my shoulder and ears thank me too.

That said, welcome to THR and congratulations on your new build. I really hope it makes a true marksman out of you! Don't forget the wind flags...
So true. Marksmanship is marksmanship.

CharlieDeltaJuliet
August 24, 2013, 05:46 PM
Welcome dbowhunter. I had the same bug bite me... Mine is a trued and blueprinted 700 L/A (.300WM),my gunsmith worked his magic on. He installed the side bolt release,a lapped Kreiger 1-10 twist SS match barrel, and custom Brake. He picked the Manners T5-A and a Harris BRM-S bipod and LaRue mount, and a Near scope base. I topped it off with a NightForce ATACR.
I know there is more but I am forgetting it at the moment..

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/ChadJohnson1976/Firearms/IMG_3175.jpg

On An Island
August 24, 2013, 05:52 PM
Damn. You guys have some amazing rifles! Thanks for sharing <wipes drool off of chin>

dbowhunter
August 25, 2013, 04:51 PM
Damn, sorry I missed all the posts, I guess I didn't have email notifications on!

Thanks for the welcome's and all the other sticks are beautiful too.

There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat, it's all about finding what works for you.

I haven't had a chance to shoot this one yet, it's in the safe until I return from archery elk in WY. This bull tag is 5 years in the making, so I couldn't take away from thsoe preparations, even though it was very tempting. I did shoot 10 increasing loads looking for max pressure, which I never did find any signs of even at 45.7 gr H4350 behind 130 berger hunting VLDs. I'll probably settle it back down to the 42-44 range and look for an accurate one and stick to it.

Woolecox, I think you are on to something there. The rifle itself doesn't make you a better marksman, but it encourages practice and not just shooting. I know I feel like less of man knowing this rifle will outshoot me for a longlong time, and I'll be trying to get that certification on my man card whe I can properly drive this rifle the way it should be.

Thanks again gentlemen,

-D

Txhillbilly
August 25, 2013, 08:25 PM
Another wallet bites the dust due to snipershide. :)

That's a really nice rifle! Finding a good load for the creedmoor will probably be a boring task...
I wouldn't think finding a good load for a 6.5 Creedmoor as boring.
My best load was the third powder charge set the first day I shot mine- .122" group at 100 yards.
It does get boring shooting it though,whatever you aim at you pretty much hit it if you are good at ranging targets/animals.

CharlieDeltaJuliet
August 25, 2013, 08:40 PM
I agree with Txhillbilly, finding the best load is the fun part. The reward comes when that group tightens up and that feeling hits you. It's like hitting the lottery to me.

The 6.5 Creedmore is my favorite round. Sad part is I don't own n now. I will have gunsmith build me one very soon. They are the most impressive round (IMHO) that I have ever shot. The long range trajectory,and velocity....ooh..nothing but rifle goodness. Then you get the accuracy. That little booger has set groups that make people's jaw drop...

Soon 6.5CM, soon, you will be mine.... My ...my precious....

Ok, enough obsession, they really are all around great rounds....

USSR
August 25, 2013, 09:05 PM
It does get boring shooting it though,whatever you aim at you pretty much hit it if you are good at ranging targets/animals.

Take it out to 1k, and the boredom goes away. Little thing called "wind".;)

Don

dbowhunter
August 27, 2013, 03:00 PM
Well I lied and took this one out to the range.

Below are some targets @ 100 yds with loads of 42.5-44.0 grains of H4350 loaded into the land apx .010 with BR4 primers in new brass puching 130gr Berger Hunting VLDs. Circles on the target are HALF INCH.

Like I said in my opening post, I am new to LR shooting but not to shooting. What this says to me is that when I do my part I don't think this rifle cares what I feed it!??! That is unless someone with a little more experience can say otherwise.

I shot round robin, 3 shot groups with the 5 charges. Tryied to give the barrel some rest time, but it probably got slowly warmer all day. The 5 shot group at 43 was actually with culled brass during weight sorting. It was all on the light end of my lot, but was all within a 1 grain window.

No pressure signs on brass, not even at 44.5grains.

I was happy with the results, especially given the situation and my experience at this. Shooting was on a bench on a bipod and rear bag, and I didn't like the wood bench, a concrete top would have been nicer. Wind was mostly <5mph maybe a gust to 10 but I probably didn't shoot during any of those. About 80-85 degrees at 70% humidity. I only fired 2 foulers on a clean barrel. I shot through the chorno but haven't looked at the string details yet; ballpark it shot 2750 to 2880fps over the range of loads with my Pro-Chrono. I changed the bipod height between the 1st and 2nd groups and was more comfortable on the first, but that is relative as I am always uncomfortable on a bench being 6'6" on benches/chairs built for more average humans.

Comments?

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MtnCreek
August 29, 2013, 09:01 AM
Similar results to what I've seen. As I worked up loads, POI would change, but on average everything grouped well. I picked a few weights at the mid-upper end on my workup and chose my load based on 20 shot chronograph results. With a lot of time I'm sure I could find a slightly better load, but considering how it's shooting, I don't see the need.

Just a guess, but what are the odds that the good looking 5 shot w/ the cull brass looks so good because it was a 'cull' load and you were relaxed, not overly worried about how it looked?

dbowhunter
September 13, 2013, 07:02 PM
MtnCreek - That is most likely this case...I am a rookie shooter and having the nerves turned off helps. I enjoy the rifle shooting so well, as it drives me to be a better shooter, to let it live to it's potential!

Well the archery bow hunt was a success (see last pic below) so I am home and was able to take the LRI Creedmoor for another spin.

Shot a little better this time, was still doing "load development". The wind and my discomfort kicked up as time went on with the second target.

I was much happier with my own performance on this outing than the last. Those pics are in the previous post.

Since it appears this rifle will eat up and spit bugholes with whatever I put down it, I'm going to load the next 100 rounds (once fired now) with the 44.5g load. The other details are H4350, 130 gr Berger VLDs, BR4 primers, and apx to the lands at 2.087 at ogive with my comparator.

Any comments or ideas or something that should be learned from this that I haven't? I'm still 'new' to handloading and this precision game.

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taliv
September 13, 2013, 08:17 PM
Great shooting!

Outlaw Man
September 15, 2013, 07:47 PM
Outstanding! That was a very interesting read. That is a sharp looking rifle. It should be a lot of fun to shoot.

Doesn't help the itch for me to build one, either....

CharlieDeltaJuliet
September 15, 2013, 08:30 PM
Well I will tell you right now, dbowhunter, I love the camo scheme on that rifle. It is a great looking stick....

dbowhunter
October 1, 2013, 04:08 PM
Thanks Gentlemen,

It's a riot to shoot and really drives me to 'do my part' and become a better shooter each time I take it out.

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