The mora robust


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mole
August 23, 2013, 06:57 PM
Every so often people here recommend for a person to get a mora knife. They usually push for the clipper/companion or one of the classics. The clipper is actually my go to knife for most outdoor tasks and I have also worked over a few deer with one, but I wanted to throw some attention towards the mora Robust. The robust helps address two issues that people have with the mora knives: the blade thickness and the lack of a full tang.

The blade thickness of the clippers/companions are .079 inches. This gives them a little flex and makes people question their durability. The robust is .126 inches thick and definitely feels stout (or maybe I should say robust). To me this a great compromise on blade thickness. I could see where some would shy away from a thin blade, but many like myself dislike the "sharpened pry bar" approach that some knife manufacturers use. I used my robust to do a little wood carving, baton some wood, and even used it to baton down a hardwood tree that was a little over 3 inches in diameter with no damage.

While the mora robust does not have a full tang, it does extend about 3/4 of the way through the handle. Also, as others have pointed out in other threads the integrity of the tang has more to do with the thickness of the tang rather than the width. Increasing the thickness of the tang from .079 to .126 decreases the likelihood of a weakness in the tang allowing a crack to expand and cause tang breakage.

Here's a thickness shot comparing a .188 thick bk7, .126 robust, and a .079 companion.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z239/borwish/bladethickness.jpg

A shot of the handles. BK7, robust, then companion. The robust has a slightly thicker handle than the clipper/companions with a more pronounced swell to the belly of the handle. My small handed wife has a little trouble with it, but it suits me fine enough.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z239/borwish/handles.jpg

A overall shot. The BK7 has a 7 inch blade and the moras have 4 inch blades. The robust has an added button to the front of the sheath so you can attach another knife to the front of it. I'm not fond of the idea and will probably cut it off.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z239/borwish/sizeandsheath.jpg

Most moras come with a rough, ugly spine from the factory like the companion in the photos. It only takes a little time with a file to clean it up. The spine of the robust comes polished, but it has rounded corners making it unusable with a fire steel. If you don't use a fire-steel it's an improvement. If you do, you'll still have to pull out the old file.

No, the robust probably won't hold up to the abuse that an ESEE, F1 or other hard use knife could survive. At less than $15 apiece, however, you could buy 7 robusts instead of just one of the above. In my personal opinion, this a great all around outdoor use knife.

John

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wrc
August 23, 2013, 08:41 PM
Does it cut as well as the standard .080" blade thickness? For the price, if it is more durable (for prying, for ???), but still can cut as well, then that is awesome. Looking at the grind, it looks like maybe the Robust is *maybe* at the same angle as the Standard.

Sam Cade
August 23, 2013, 09:07 PM
Does it cut as well as the standard .080" blade thickness?

In an absolute sense it can't, even if the edge geometry is identical.

Thicker blades are going to require that more material be displaced as the blade moves through the medium being cut.


Real world you might not notice much difference depending on what you use your knives for.

wrc
August 23, 2013, 09:34 PM
Yeah, true that Sam. Real-world, though, it would be interesting to see a comparison. It seems like a huge jump, but maybe it isn't that much when you really get down to using it.

I'm picking up one off Amazon, where the price is a buck more than the Mora Companion (using Prime). Here's hoping it rocks!

[edit] Looks like a buck LESS for the robust... 14.97 vs 15.97 ...

mole
August 23, 2013, 09:35 PM
It doesn't cut as well in all circumstances. A good example is that I used a clipper to cut the other side of the tree. It was a V at the bottom with two trunks. The clipper actually cut better because it wedged less allowing me to baton the blade deeper with each cut. I was much more worried that the clipper would break though. I had no doubts that the robust would be fine. The robust split wood better through because of the same wedging action. Both blades are easier to use than the BK7 for most tasks.

The angle is the same, but since the blade is thicker the "slope" is longer as well.

wrc
August 23, 2013, 09:43 PM
Mole: I'll be trying it out on my brush in a couple of days. Maybe it hits a sweet spot.

For a buck less, I can't see it being too bad.

mole
August 23, 2013, 10:26 PM
Try : http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

The companion is currently cheaper on that link.

Deltaboy
August 23, 2013, 11:07 PM
I have been very happy with my Mora' s under 10 bucks.

22-rimfire
August 31, 2013, 02:15 PM
Thanks for the thread. I bought a carbon steel Companion and it elevated my opinion of the inexpensive Mora knives. Have not looked at the Robust, but probably will take a look next time I'm at SMKW. I consider choices such as this best done in person where you can handle the knife.

You put those beside the Kabar Becker BK-7. It is a bit different breed of knife. The BK16 or BK17 might be a more apt comparison. I like the BK-16 alot and will be buying a BK-7 in the next few months. I am sort of working up to the BK-9... :D

I think Mora knives are a great value. I think they are great slicers and light use knives in the woods, a family picnic, or at a camp site. I generally lean toward something with a bit more heft.

I guess people buy the Moras like I do Victorinox kitchen knives. You can ever seem to have enough especially if you have a wife that prys with knife blades on cans and so forth.

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