Dedicated wadcutter target revolver


PDA






horsemen61
August 25, 2013, 09:41 PM
Well guys I got into a recent debate with an old friend who has recently discovered revolvers and he has always been a semi guy:rolleyes:. So we were talking and he said " what do you shoot for practiceJulie ain't pregers with your revolvers" side note the caliber we are discussing is 357 magnum. "38 wadcutters I said I told him I liked the clean holes they leave." He said "huh never shot any." So we went and shot some as always perfect holes in the target :D. Anyways my buddy then asked me "so if you could pick any revolver to shoot just target load wadcutters through what would it be?" So I ask you if you could pick any revolver for this purpose alone what would it be ?

If you enjoyed reading about "Dedicated wadcutter target revolver" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
Bearhands
August 25, 2013, 09:44 PM
my $.02

6" S&W Model 14

horsemen61
August 25, 2013, 09:47 PM
For me it is a 4 inch colt cobra that has a single action pull like butter baby it is awesome

Iggy
August 25, 2013, 09:54 PM
Another vote for the S&W Model 14.

pendennis
August 25, 2013, 09:56 PM
I have several -

Colt Officer's Model Match
Smith & Wesson Model 14-3
Colt Python (1978)
Smith & Wesson Model .357 (6.5" barrel) (1953)

All are supremely accurate.

I do shoot wad-cutter bullets in my .357 Magnums. I use Trail Boss Powder, and .357 Magnum cases, since I'm lazy, and don't like the carbon build-up in the Magnum cylinders.

Now, if you want real accuracy, get a S&W Model 52. It's purpose-designed to shoot .38 wad-cutters. It and the Colt Model 1911, modified for the same cartridge are pleasures to shoot.

CajunBass
August 25, 2013, 10:05 PM
A Fred Schmidt "Short Cylinder Conversion" K-frame, 38 PPC revolver.

Texan Scott
August 26, 2013, 12:51 AM
Still struggling with "Julie ain't preggers"... but I like a dedicated K frame 38, not the longer cylindered 357.

ColtPythonElite
August 26, 2013, 12:52 AM
Colt Python in 6" or maybe 8".

rcmodel
August 26, 2013, 01:03 AM
S&W Model-14 Masterpiece.

They won enough trophy's when revolvers still ruled NRA Bullseye to fill Donald Trumps big swimming pool six times over.


IMO: No .357 chambered revolver will quite match a dedicated .38 Special chambered Model 14 target revolver.

Unless it is an old Colt Officers Model Match .38 Special.

rc

horsemen61
August 26, 2013, 01:09 AM
Sorry Texan somehow my iPhone put that in it was a text from a friend

LeonCarr
August 26, 2013, 01:37 AM
I would purchase a used PPC Revolver built on a Smith K-Frame with bull barrel, Aristocrat Sight Rib and super smooth action job.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

toiville2feathers
August 26, 2013, 01:58 AM
sounds like your friend ain't shooting wadcutters either
Mine is a colt police saftey

Barry the Bear
August 26, 2013, 02:19 AM
Look no further than the ruger security six!

ArchAngelCD
August 26, 2013, 02:32 AM
I also have to go with the 6" S&W Model 14. That revolver was made for accuracy and it does what it was made to do very well!

horsemen61
August 26, 2013, 02:35 AM
pics are welcome guys :D

natman
August 26, 2013, 03:32 AM
One more for the S&W 14. I have a 6" and an 8 3/8". Both are amazingly accurate with wadcutters, which is what they were built for. They have target triggers, target sights & overtravel stop and IMO the 14 was considered a company flagship and got a bit more hand fitting and internal polishing than a 10 on a police contract.

bannockburn
August 26, 2013, 06:54 AM
1) S&W Model 14 with a 6" barrel.
2) Colt Python .38 Special with an 8" barrel.
3) Colt Officer's Model Match with a 6" barrel.

bigtubby
August 26, 2013, 07:41 AM
My 6" S&W 14-1

Iggy
August 26, 2013, 10:57 AM
Pictures?
Well how about a matched pair. Model 17 and 14. Same size, same weight, same feel.
Top one is a .22LR and the bottom is a .38 Spec.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Kframes.jpg
I've got 3 pairs of them for the grand kids.

Lj1941
August 26, 2013, 11:22 AM
Any 38 or 357 that I happen to be shooting any given
time.

Jim Watson
August 26, 2013, 11:36 AM
K-38. That's a Model 14 for those of you in the Digital Age.

pendennis
August 26, 2013, 11:36 AM
Since you asked, here they are:
http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu331/pendennis1947/SmithWessonModel14-4ServiceStocksLF.jpg
http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu331/pendennis1947/ColtOfficersModelMatchLFT.jpg
http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu331/pendennis1947/SW357Magnum1953LFT.jpg
http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu331/pendennis1947/TwoOfTheFinest.jpg

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu331/pendennis1947/SampWModel52-1Left_zps3e20d17a.jpg

Jim Watson
August 26, 2013, 11:39 AM
K-38. That's a Model 14 for those of you in the Digital Age.

As said, you can often pick up a PPC gun from somebody who has dropped out.
A friend slap dab wore out a Fred Schmidt. Too bad Mr S. is since deceased.

But really, any name brand .38 will amaze the Glock Generation.

Mike OTDP
August 26, 2013, 12:05 PM
Unlimited? No holds barred? Probably a Manurhin MR73 target. Honorable mentions to the Python and Model 14. Actually, you can do some fantastic work with a Model 14 mated to a Python barrel.

ATLDave
August 26, 2013, 12:08 PM
One of the most fun guns I ever shot was a Model 10 that had been thoroughly customized for PPC shooting. 6" long heavy barrel, giant Bomar rib, and a trigger so slick that three of the first six shots I took with it were true surprise breaks. I am the SECOND person in line to buy it if the owner ever decides to sell.

Taroman
August 26, 2013, 01:23 PM
While I have no "dedicated" wad guns, I shoot Hornady's 148 HBWCs from these and many others:
14-2. Closest to a dedicated wad gun. HBWC over 2.8 gr. Bullseye:
http://www.hverovhe.com/14-2.jpg
28-2. It rocks with the same bullet in a 357 case over 3.6 gr. 231:
http://www.hverovhe.com/28-2.jpg
In fact, shot a club "good bad and ugly" match on Saturday. Last stage included poker chips at 50 yards. Managed to hit 8 of 10 of them.

lowercase
August 26, 2013, 01:25 PM
Good old Model 10 treats me alright. For some reason, I like the fixed sight guns, even for target shooting.

Model 10-5.

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/554/105standard4inch.jpg

Model 10-10. Sometimes, I like the heavy barrel better at the shooting range.

http://imageshack.us/a/img221/7146/model10.jpg

Dframe
August 26, 2013, 01:48 PM
I've fired thousands of wadcutters through numerous revolvers. The most accurate were a Colt Officers Model, and an Old S&W 38 target though I don't remember the model number it was a K frame. I really like lowercases 10-10. I have a Colt Metropolitan in much the same configuration that is so accurate it's scary. Yup I really like fixed sight heavy barreled revolvers.

oneounceload
August 26, 2013, 03:20 PM
And just for something a little different, there was the R&P S&W 32SWL I briefly owned - a lovely I-frame with 6 inch barrel and adjustable sights that shot .32 wad cutters scary accurate

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk308/oneounceload/glasscandleand32gun023A.jpg (http://s283.photobucket.com/user/oneounceload/media/glasscandleand32gun023A.jpg.html)

Plastikosmd
August 26, 2013, 03:22 PM
Here are my two dedicated wadcutters. Smith 52 semi and a Fred Schmidt custom model 10 with a short cylinder that will only chamber wadcutters, note the gap under the cylinder rod and long throat
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/074b752e44a4a413df889ac754bdc3fe_zps01b72986.jpg

SwampWolf
August 26, 2013, 03:41 PM
Nice pictures, pedennis. Those would be my picks too and I would add the Colt Officers Model Special to the collection.

beag_nut
August 26, 2013, 06:16 PM
Everything mentioned and shown so far is very nice.
May I add my personal favorite?: my Ruger GP100 6" barrel. Sorry no pics, but a Ruger is a Ruger.

mavracer
August 26, 2013, 07:19 PM
My 14 isn't real pretty so I ain't showing it off, but since I got my 52 I've decided to only shoot wadcutters out of the two of them.

Starter52
August 26, 2013, 08:45 PM
I would rather shoot a Model 14 than any other .38 revolver, but that said, my 6" Python is the most accurate .38 wadcutter revolver I've ever seen. I just wish the Colt would fit my hand as easily as the K-frame.

ArkieVol
August 26, 2013, 09:40 PM
Iggy says: Pictures?
Well how about a matched pair. Model 17 and 14. Same size, same weight, same feel.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p77/ArkieVol/guns/modK38-K22_a-medstamped.jpg

PJSprog
August 27, 2013, 03:33 PM
Honorable mention to the model 10, which I used to carry as a duty weapon (... more than a few years ago). Incredibly accurate for fixed sights. I really like my 6" bbl 686, though. It's single action is hair-ish.

And yeah, it's great when the semi-auto-only guys laugh at the looks of a wadcutter, then get to see why they're made that way.

tipoc
August 27, 2013, 05:32 PM
Colt Officer's Model

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/Colt%20revolvers/om1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/Colt%20revolvers/om1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/Colt%20revolvers/om13.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/Colt%20revolvers/om13.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/Colt%20revolvers/om14.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/Colt%20revolvers/om14.jpg.html)

tipoc

tipoc
August 27, 2013, 05:37 PM
S&W Combat Masterpiece (pre model 15)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/K%20and%20J%20Frames/prem151.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/K%20and%20J%20Frames/prem151.jpg.html)

Two Model 14s

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/K%20and%20J%20Frames/43812.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/K%20and%20J%20Frames/43812.jpg.html)

tipoc

Iggy
August 27, 2013, 06:55 PM
Tipoc,

My, my that Officer's model with the Ropers is beautimus!!
Where's the envy smiley??

Hoppes Love Potion
August 27, 2013, 06:56 PM
Another vote for the Model 14 K-38 Masterpiece. I believe the K-38 was factory tested to within 1.5" at 50 yards.

788Ham
August 28, 2013, 12:56 AM
Colt Python 6", and my Colt Trooper 4", both scary shooters.

Mat, not doormat
August 28, 2013, 02:02 AM
The Model 14 is the one to beat. I've got my grandpa's, and it hasn't forgotten anything in the intervening decades.

Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

earplug
August 28, 2013, 10:08 AM
My four inch M-65 that is drilled and tapped for a Ultra dot. It would out shoot my 8 inch M-14.

Jaymo
August 28, 2013, 08:50 PM
My favorite Colts and Smiths have been posted here.
All, except one.
I am a lifelong HUGE fan of Colt revolvers.
What I'm going to say may surprise y'all.




Smith and Wesson model 586 or 686.
The L frame Smiths have absolutely fantastic triggers.
They're also fantastic shooters.
And, since they have the same size grip as a K frame, they fit my hands much better than the Python (which is my grail gun, but the Smith still fits me better).

I absolutely love the model 10 heavy barrel that I picked up dirt cheap.
She's not pretty enough to show off here. That's why I got her cheap.
Poor, unloved K frame. How can anyone not love a K?
Even before I was a confirmed Smith fan, I loved the K frames.
And the J frames.
And the I frames.
And the N frames.
Now, I'm all hot and bothered for a blue L frame.
Good enough for Jerry Miculek, good enough for me.
Has there ever been a more perfect sized .38 duty gun than a K frame?

TrueTexan
August 28, 2013, 09:54 PM
I agree Ruger Security Six. I would go with a six inch barrel. I had one many years ago and sold it, wish I hadn't.

Jim Watson
August 28, 2013, 11:45 PM
Tipoc,

Do you know who worked over that OMT?
That coil spring and doohickey under the mainspring doesn't look like anything out of Hartford.

It does not appear in Roper's book, even though you have his stocks.

Jaymo
August 28, 2013, 11:50 PM
Nice 52s. I always wanted one.

jad0110
August 29, 2013, 09:50 PM
S&W Model 14 for me too. Though most any .38 revolver is going to be capable of great accuracy.

Here's my Model 14/17 combo:


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2014%20and%2017/IMG_1632.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jad0110/media/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2014%20and%2017/IMG_1632.jpg.html)

funnelcake
August 30, 2013, 12:19 AM
Colt Officers Model Special.

Funnel

PO2Hammer
August 30, 2013, 03:45 AM
The Python is the most accurate gun for HBWC's I've shot. Better than the S&W 67 I used to own and better than my Freedom Arms 97 or my GP100.

The results were interesting at 50 yards. My 67 with S&W's slower twist (1:17.5?) would not stabilize out to 50 with one brand of factory HBWC's, but would with the other (Fed and Win, can't remember which one though). All the bullets left the same pattern in the target, all yawed the same amount - must have been close to 45, and in the same direction. Even with the tumbling they turned in a decent 6" group (rested).

The Python always left round holes at 50 yards. IIRC the twist there is 1:16. Groups were as good as I could hold or see.

I hope you have a line on ammo.

PO2Hammer
August 30, 2013, 04:01 AM
P.S.
Gent's, those are some really nice revolvers.
Iggy, you're my hero.

Hunter2011
August 30, 2013, 09:47 AM
Nice thread.
May I ask. Is a .38 wadcutter more accurate in a .38 Special revolver than in a comparable .357 Magnum?
I'm in the market for a .357 Magnum, but will shoot mostly target/wadcutter .38 Special rounds in it. Or will a .38 Special revolver be a better option from the start?
I'm thinking of either a Ruger Security Six or a Ruger GP100. But a Taurus 608 with 8 shots also sounds so good! Or will a much older S&W .357 be a better option than the Rugers? I can't afford a brand new S&W right now.

TonyT
August 30, 2013, 10:47 AM
If you intended to shoot mostly single action then I would opt for the Colt Officers Model. You can find plenty of used Colt OM's on the market and they are superbly accurate and have a great single action trigger.
However if you intend to shoot a significant amount of double action then I would opt for the S&W K-38/Model 14 in any of it's variations. In my opinion the S&W DA trigger system is superior to the Colt DA trigger.

natman
August 30, 2013, 12:23 PM
Nice thread.
May I ask. Is a .38 wadcutter more accurate in a .38 Special revolver than in a comparable .357 Magnum?
I'm in the market for a .357 Magnum, but will shoot mostly target/wadcutter .38 Special rounds in it. Or will a .38 Special revolver be a better option from the start?


It depends. If you want versatility, get a 357. Many 357s are quite accurate with 38 wadcutters. If I wanted a serious dedicated target revolver, I'd get a Model 14 S&W and they only come in 38 Special. Or I'd get a Colt Python Target in 38 Special if I felt like selling a kidney to afford one.

tipoc
August 30, 2013, 01:24 PM
Just in response to a couple of questions on the Colt Officers Model I posted.

Other than the King's front sights on the gun there are no other markings on the piece to indicate who else may have worked on it. I got the gun as a consignment piece in the used gun rack at a local gunatorium. Mostly it is stock Colt.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/OM1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/OM1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/OM10.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/OM10.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/OM5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/OM5.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/OM13.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/OM13.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/OM12.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tipoc/media/OM12.jpg.html)

tipoc

Dframe
August 30, 2013, 04:54 PM
Thats a beautiful pre-war gun. Mine is a later model, (circa 1948) still extraordinarily accurate.

Plastikosmd
August 30, 2013, 09:31 PM
The Python is the most accurate gun for HBWC's I've shot. Better than the S&W 67 I used to own and better than my Freedom Arms 97 or my GP100.


Interesting, YMMV I guess as I sold my last one as it was my worst! Though on a positive note I was able to sell the last python and get a nice j frame and a cobra that I am enjoying

Walkalong
August 30, 2013, 10:20 PM
Thats a beautiful pre-war gun.It sure is. If I had seen that in a used gun rack my heart would have skipped a beat. Beautiful.

If you enjoyed reading about "Dedicated wadcutter target revolver" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!