A Good Old 30-06 Tactical Rifle Build


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Dthunter
August 27, 2013, 12:23 AM
Hi guys! Its finally Done!

This rifle started life as a Remington 700 SPS/SS/DM/ Camo, in 30-06 Sprg.

The goals with this build was to make a switch barrel rifle capable of shooting all the factory offerings of the 30-06 case family. (25-06 Rem, 270Win, 280 Rem, 30-6, & 35 Whelen).

After looking at various stock designs A-5's /Machined platforms (Tac21,Elisio, etc.), I was undecided what to go with.

I eventually decided to go with the Choate "Custom Tactical stock". Fully adjustable, and very solid.

I had to machine a section on the bottom of the magazine well to allow for the detachable magazine to function properly.

I ordered the stock and two Shilen Match Select barrels:

1.) .308, 1:10" twist, 30" long,#7 Heavy Taper. To be chambered in 30-06 Sprg.

2.) .284, 1:8" twist, 30" Long, #7 Heavy Taper. To be chambered in 280 Remington.


I got the action fully blue printed and Sleeved, and had the action and barrels flat matte finished.

The action lug was replaced with a heavy gauge recoil lug and pinned to the action to facilitate removal of the barrels, and prevent the action lug from moving.

The action and barrels were match marked so that I could adjust the barrels to proper head space by aligning the marks.


*I plan on getting a full set of headspace gauges to monitor this from time to time.



Now all that's left to order (other than the headspace gauges), is the barrel vise and action wrench.

Here are a few profile pictures, and a set of targets from today. Load stats are on the picture (all safe in my gun). Hope you shooters like them!

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a629/darcytyndall1/30-06175gr190gr208gr176grLoads_zpseee52f3c.jpg

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a629/darcytyndall1/MyTactical30-06Project2013_zps6509a803.jpg

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a629/darcytyndall1/MyTactical30-06Project1_zps937c751f.jpg

Sorry about all the Bench Clutter in the background!

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a629/darcytyndall1/MyTactical30-06Project2_zps519d4ad2.jpg

This is a 4 shot group at 1000 Yards with the 176 Grain Steel Tipped, Rebated Boat tail, Ultra Low Drag Chichaga Bullets.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a629/darcytyndall1/3Roundsof30-06at1000Yards_zps23d0b9e6.jpg

These are those Steel tipped Chinchaga bullets.
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a629/darcytyndall1/176GrainST-ULD_zpsc164266e.jpg

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horsemen61
August 27, 2013, 12:27 AM
Very nice can I ask roughly price?

Dthunter
August 27, 2013, 12:58 AM
Barrels: $375.00 each
stock: $500.00
Action Blueprinting and barrel work: $800.00
$1675.00 total
Not including scope of course.
My Mark4 Rings and 40MOA rail has not come in yet, so that will add a little more again!

Now that the action is pinned and blueprinted, a new calibre/barrel will cost me $475.00.

Not cheap for sure.

My wife Is an angel for putting up with my obsessions! LOL!

BigBore44
August 27, 2013, 01:31 AM
While I must say I would never build one as long range isn't my thing, that is a VERY impressive rifle. And I love the caliber choices. You should be proud.

2 Questions:
1. Factory trigger? Poundage?
2. Any reason you didn't put a brake on it? Just curious...My thought is probably the weight of the gun is sufficient to tame recoil.

Dthunter
August 27, 2013, 01:47 AM
1.) yes, its a factory trigger still. The "Jewell" trigger (1-1.5Lb) will replace it as funds become available.
It break around 3.5 pounds, but varies a bit. It keeps me very VERY focused, as I squeeeeeeze! LOL!

2.) I planned on squeezing the maximum performance out of the 06, then down the road, cut the barrel down to 24", and then get a brake added.

She shoots sweet! Its a great old cartridge!
Thanks for the compliments!

BigBore44
August 27, 2013, 02:52 AM
Dt,
I can't imagine you having many problems with that rifle. Decent case/barrel pressures of the '06 will ensure many years of excellent range trips. The trigger change is gonna make a world of difference in accuracy as I'm sure you know. And it's just plain refreshing to see someone build a rifle like that in the classic '06. Seriously puts a smile on my face. Well done. My hats off to you.

VVelox
August 27, 2013, 05:10 AM
Could you elaborate on the bullets there? Those don't appear to be surplus, but I think they would qualify as AP, meaning newly manufactured ones can't be sold to us civies.

USSR
August 27, 2013, 07:53 AM
Dthunter,

Nice stick in a great chambering! I built mine in .30-06 about 13 years ago and shot it in 1,000 yard competition for several years.

http://ussr.clarityconnect.com/Win06t1.jpg

Here is my load data for the readily available 190gr Sierra MatchKing bullet:

Lapua or LC M72 Match brass
Sierra 190SMK bullet
Fed 210M primer
60.7gr RL22 powder
2900fps from my 26" Krieger barrel
30.5MOA from a 100 yard zero to 1k

Don

yzguy87
August 27, 2013, 09:33 AM
Very nice Dthunter! I have always liked 30-06 tactical rifles!

taliv
August 27, 2013, 11:05 AM
never heard of those bullets before. what are they? and what's the point of the steel tip?

mdauben
August 27, 2013, 11:13 AM
Impressive rife! I've been tempted to get something togther in the way of a long range centerfire rifle, but I really need to find a location with more than a 200 yd range to shoot it, first. ;)

juk
August 27, 2013, 07:24 PM
We've got a 350 yard range here in Guntersville on HWY79S. If the guy will get off of his butt, we will have 600 yards to play with.

That is a nice rifle. I, too, am curious about those projectiles.

Dthunter
August 28, 2013, 12:36 AM
A friend of mine makes these. His company name is: Chinchaga bullet co.

The steel tip is swedged into place during he last ogive forming operation. The purpose of the steel tip is to produce a super small bullet tip/metplate. To increase the BC as much as possible while using a given bullet form factor/geometry.

As to them being AP, I have no clue. The bullet construction is conventional, and designed for long range precision.

He is centered in the Peace country in Alberta.

Dthunter
August 28, 2013, 12:54 AM
thanks for the encouragement Big Bore44!

The old 30-06 is just an old design that happens to still work as well and better than it used to. With the quality and variety of powders available today, the sky is the limit!

I love to shoot at extreme ranges, and want to get this '06 out to 1760 (1 mile).
I have done this with three other calibers (.308Win, 7mm Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag.).
It would be so cool to achieve this mile marker with all the 30-06 case family of cartridges! 2506,270,280,3006,35Whelen.

My friend at Chinchaga bullets can make high BC bullets in .257 (135gr.), & .270 (not sure what weight he has forming dies for).

The hardest one to achieve his feat, by far, would be the 35Whelan! I would have to get nearly 50+ MOA bias on a scope rail and 100 MOA on the scope! It would be fun though!

Only 3 more barrels to go! LOL!

Lj1941
August 28, 2013, 05:31 AM
I love it.I also like the choice of calibers.It will be interesting to see what the 35 Whelen will do at 1K yards.

JShirley
August 28, 2013, 05:54 AM
Neat project and rifle. Thanks for sharing it with us.

I'm also interested- but skeptical- in the .35 Whelen's long-range performance.

John

USSR
August 28, 2013, 08:59 AM
It will be interesting to see what the 35 Whelen will do at 1K yards.

It would be very ugly. No high BC bullets available (at least from Sierra), and not enough case capacity to attain a high enough velocity to remain supersonic at 1k. To say nothing of the lack of shoulder for the case.

Don

Buzznrose
August 28, 2013, 09:49 AM
All I can say is WOW! That is a beauty! Would be an awesome Western US rifle for plains and mountain hunting.

Thanks for sharing!

JShirley
August 28, 2013, 10:22 AM
I suppose a sabot could be used in the Whelen, but AFAIK, saboted bullets are only really acxurate when scaled up to cannon size.

CoRoMo
August 28, 2013, 10:35 AM
Could you elaborate on the bullets there? ...they would qualify as AP, meaning newly manufactured ones can't be sold to us civies.

Is that a Chicago or Illinois thing?

Because there is no FEDERAL prohibition/ban/illegality of armor piercing ammo to be bought/sold at the civilian level. Federal law only restricts the manufacture and importation of AP ammunition. State laws obviously vary. Originally, federal law only applied to handgun ammo but in 1994 it was expanded to a very few rifle cartridges.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921

B) The term “armor piercing ammunition” means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
Only manufacturers and importers of AP ammo are prohibited from selling or delivering this type of ammo.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

(7) for any person to manufacture or import armor piercing ammunition, unless—
(A) the manufacture of such ammunition is for the use of the United States, any department or agency of the United States, any State, or any department, agency, or political subdivision of a State;
(B) the manufacture of such ammunition is for the purpose of exportation; or
(C) the manufacture or importation of such ammunition is for the purpose of testing or experimentation and has been authorized by the Attorney General;
(8) for any manufacturer or importer to sell or deliver armor piercing ammunition, unless such sale or delivery—
(A) is for the use of the United States, any department or agency of the United States, any State, or any department, agency, or political subdivision of a State;
(B) is for the purpose of exportation; or
(C) is for the purpose of testing or experimentation and has been authorized by the Attorney General;

And of course, it looks like the OP might be in Canada.

1858
August 28, 2013, 10:40 AM
Dthunter, those tips look like aluminum ... steel would be an odd choice. Aluminum would move the center of pressure rearward more than steel which is a good thing for long range precision.

As for the rifle ... very cool and one of the most interesting projects I've seen on here in a long time.

Arkansas Paul
August 28, 2013, 10:45 AM
That is pure sweetness. Very nicely done and in my favorite caliber too.

Dthunter
August 28, 2013, 11:27 AM
1858: Good observation! Chinchaga bullet co uses both aluminum and steel tips for these bullets. The steel tips are coated in zinc. The only issue with aluminum was that it is so soft, that the tip can be bent out of concentricity very easily! And that as we all know, is a death sentence for long range accuracy.

The concept of moving the center of gravity is true, but this bullet design shows no stability/accuracy issues thus far. This steel tip bullet placed very high in F class shooting in eastern canada this year.

Dthunter
August 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
Hi guys!

As far as the 35 Whelen making it to 1760yards, thats only a goal of curiosity. The bullet BC's that are available are dismimal at best! At this time I am thinking of trying the Nosler accubond.
200 gr: BC= .365
225 gr: BC= .430

I dont realisticly expect to make it that far with this caliber, but I "WILL" find out its maximum potential. Thats where I find the fun in testing.

Outlaw Man
August 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
Very cool! I think it's a really interesting idea that you pulled off quite nicely.

Dthunter
August 28, 2013, 12:11 PM
USSR: the bullet wil go sub sonic Waaayyy before they get to the target thats true! Its like throwing a softball! LOL!

If the twist rate is sufficient, a bullet doesnt need to be supersonic to stay stable. You may know that, but I just wanted others on this site to understand that a bullet doesnt "need" to be super sonic to be/remain stable.

If the bullet is sufficiently stable as it crosses through the supersonic/trans sonic/ and into sub sonic speeds, it can remain stable after this transition.

The case capacity is certainly minimal for sure.

But I dont understand what the shoulder has to do with this long range shooting goal. Do you mean that the small shoulder tends to create issues with dependable headspace and accuracy? Just curious.

This project is going to be fuuunnn!

USSR
August 28, 2013, 01:17 PM
If the twist rate is sufficient, a bullet doesnt need to be supersonic to stay stable. You may know that, but I just wanted others on this site to understand that a bullet doesnt "need" to be super sonic to be/remain stable.

If the bullet is sufficiently stable as it crosses through the supersonic/trans sonic/ and into sub sonic speeds, it can remain stable after this transition.


Totally depends upon the bullet and it's boattail. The Sierra 168gr MatchKing with it's 13 degree boattail is horrendous when going transonic. I once spotted for a guy using them at 1,000 yards, and it was ugly. The M72/M118 bullet, on the other hand, with it's 9 degree boattail, handles going transonic really well. This is the bullet that the Sierra 175gr MatchKing was patterned after.

But I dont understand what the shoulder has to do with this long range shooting goal. Do you mean that the small shoulder tends to create issues with dependable headspace and accuracy?

Exactly.

Don

Dthunter
August 28, 2013, 04:08 PM
It is amazing how such subtle differences in bullet form can make such a big difference!
What I find funny is I have seen guys shot the 168 sierra quite well at 1000, then another day, terrible! Just the limits of its design.

I havent had any issues with the shoulders on any of my whelens yet. I had a Rem 700 classic in 35 whelan, and it was the most accurate straight factory rifle I ever had. It would
Honestly AVERAGE around .5" at 100! Amazing! But heres the kicker! The chamber was poorly cut. It had bad reamer chatter marks the entire length of the chamber! So bad that I had to actually modify my dies so I could size the case enough to allow rechambering!
And it still shot that well! LOL!

I think the 35 Whelan will be fun to experiment with. No matter what the maximum distance I will be able to shoot it accurately to.


Thanks for the replies USSR,(DON)

centurion20000
August 29, 2013, 04:33 AM
A friend of mine makes these. His company name is: Chinchaga bullet co.

The steel tip is swedged into place during he last ogive forming operation. The purpose of the steel tip is to produce a super small bullet tip/metplate. To increase the BC as much as possible while using a given bullet form factor/geometry.

As to them being AP, I have no clue. The bullet construction is conventional, and designed for long range precision.

He is centered in the Peace country in Alberta.
[DELETED] : Request for contact info.
Thanks.

It would appear that I found his contact information.

Dale Janzen
chinchagabullets@hotmail.com
780-624-8832

centurion20000
August 29, 2013, 04:57 AM
....
2.) I planned on squeezing the maximum performance out of the 06, then down the road, cut the barrel down to 24", and then get a brake added.

She shoots sweet! Its a great old cartridge!
...

Great rifle. Doing the same thing here with my semi-auto 30-06 [battle rifle].
:)

tarosean
August 29, 2013, 06:26 AM
:confused: What makes this "tactical"?

VVelox
August 29, 2013, 06:37 AM
Deleted.

USSR
August 29, 2013, 08:28 AM
What makes this "tactical"?

Basically, all the attributes that make for a rifle capable of LR precision shooting without the weight, sensitivity and ergonomics of a benchrest rifle. If we call them sniper rifles, some guys get their panties all bunched up, so we call them tactical rifles.

Don

Dthunter
August 29, 2013, 05:05 PM
Well typed USSR! Some people reeealy get
Uptight calling them sniper rifles!

tarosean
August 31, 2013, 03:16 AM
Basically, all the attributes that make for a rifle capable of LR precision shooting without the weight, sensitivity and ergonomics of a benchrest rifle. If we call them sniper rifles, some guys get their panties all bunched up, so we call them tactical rifles.

Its a custom built rifle.. Be proud of that fact, without sticking some stupid moniker on it..

USSR
August 31, 2013, 08:27 AM
Its a custom built rifle.. Be proud of that fact, without sticking some stupid moniker on it..

Sorry, tarosean, but it is a purpose-built rifle. No different than calling a car built for racing a race car, and not simply a custom built car.

Don

lencac
August 31, 2013, 11:03 AM
Yours is a spectacular example of a custom build. Great job:cool:
I particularly like the cartridge selection. Being that the 30.06 has been around for more than 100 years it seems to get overlooked for super long range applications.
I too have a custom build in 30.06. But this one is how it was done in 2001. This was built for me back then by Gruning Precision out of Riverside CA. 27" Douglas barrel, fully has had everything done to it. This was not a cheap rifle to buy:eek: It is horrendously smooth and deadly accurate. It flies 190gr. MK's @2900 fps. and 200gr. MK's @2800 fps. It can ring a 12" dia. steel plate at 1000 yrds. virtually every time as long as I done my thing properly:banghead:

Trent
August 31, 2013, 12:07 PM
Choat makes great stocks.

You don't understand what a difference a good stock makes on your stability and accuracy until you change out one on a rifle you have shot a bit, and discover the difference first-hand.

CountGlockulla
August 31, 2013, 05:19 PM
That is way cool. A .280 long range setup will be my next rifle.

Dthunter
September 1, 2013, 07:34 PM
Thanks for the comments guys! I can hardly wait to get back home to do more shooting!

snakeman
September 1, 2013, 08:04 PM
NICE!!!!!!

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