Thinking about IDPA? Do it, it is FUN!


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TheHighRoadDude
September 6, 2013, 02:04 PM
This was my first time trying out the GoPro indoors. Sound quality was better then I expected. Tell me what you think.

I have to say Outdoors > Indoors. The courses of fire were shorter, and not as many rounds downrange. It was still a lot of fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPHvaTlWU0

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spanishjames
September 6, 2013, 11:51 PM
Looks like a lot more fun than just punching holes in paper. Is it expensive to participate in a match?

smalls
September 7, 2013, 03:29 AM
I'm considering starting to shoot IDPA this year, even though my only handgun at the moment isn't IDPA legal. I attended a match two years ago just to check it out, and it looked ridiculously fun!

tarosean
September 7, 2013, 05:13 AM
Looks like a lot more fun than just punching holes in paper. Is it expensive to participate in a match?

Ammunition is generally your greatest expense. (If you dont roll your own)

Match fees vary by clubs, locale, etc.

Sam1911
September 7, 2013, 07:47 AM
Match fees are generally $10-$20 for local club-level matches. You'll go through 75-125 rounds at most club matches, so that will be something to account for.

(Our matches are $20, but that includes REALLY good pizza and drinks at lunch time, so we think it's a good value.)

ChaoSS
September 7, 2013, 10:05 AM
Looks like fun. The Go Pro makes the angles look strange, the aim always looked off to me, especially the long range shots.

I'd like to see video from a gun mounted camera, doom style.

btg3
September 7, 2013, 12:05 PM
IDPA is great fun... except when a local club matches of 5-6 stages takes over 3 hrs to shoot.

IDPA popularity/growth in some areas has been amazing. For the most part, clubs have managed well by simplifying stages and by other means to run efficient matches.

Light rain or frosty temperatures have become my favorite IDPA weather, as it seems to minimize over-crowding.

Also, state or regional matches, which cap registration and provide around 10-12 stages, make for a nice day of shooting.

Sam1911
September 7, 2013, 06:03 PM
IDPA is great fun... except when a local club matches of 5-6 stages takes over 3 hrs to shoot. Sometimes you can simplify to blast everyone through, and sometimes more effort and equipment go into the stages and you can't. We're usually about 3 hours getting 30-40 shooters through six stages, but that always includes our shoot house, which is an unavoidable bottleneck, and often some other more complex stages with either multiple starts or lots of moving props. (Mostly we just try to offer some other time-stretchers to balance out the crowd waiting at the shoot house.)

Folks might wish we were done faster, but the stuff we offer -- it seems -- makes it worth the wait for our shooters.

Now, unnecessary slowness is a total drag. Folks not hustling and running inefficiently is no fun.

GarySTL
September 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Nice camera work. I just bought a GoPro black a few weeks ago. Used it for sporting clays, but not IDPA yet. Our next match is in 2 weeks. I see you're using the headband mount. Have you tried one of the narrower fov yet? Or slow motion?

btg3
September 8, 2013, 01:08 PM
...complex stages with either multiple starts or lots of moving props.

Why? Let's be sure the match is for the shooters rather than stage designers getting caught up in excessive creativity.

Other clubs also use shoot houses. They do not have to be a bottleneck. Again, look critically at the stage design and make it about the shooters rather than about the designer.

At one club, with increasing IPDA participation, the above became a necessity and the stage designers refocused with noticeable (and much appreciated) match efficiency -- without any shooters feeling they were blasted through any stages or that the match experience was compromised.

Fryerpower
September 8, 2013, 01:54 PM
I DON'T like the frames sticking above the targets. It looks like you are shooting people who are giving up! :)

Jim

Sam1911
September 8, 2013, 02:40 PM
Why? Let's be sure the match is for the shooters rather than stage designers getting caught up in excessive creativity.We put on more interesting and complex stages for several reasons, but again a large part of this is to fill the time with a bit more shooting rather than having folks burn through five simple stages and then stand around to get their chance at the shoot house.

If I can take the opportunity to run a standards stage with four or five starts in one bay, that's like getting four or five mini-stages in one. Yes, it takes a little longer to do that, but folks are waiting anyway. If I can present a few stages with steel and movers to reset (which takes a bit of time, always) that's a good opportunity for folks to practice some things they'll see at larger matches.

If those sorts of slightly more time-intensive things help manage the flow of the squads so they don't stack up badly in one place, mores the better!

Other clubs also use shoot houses. They do not have to be a bottleneck. Ours has a particular bay plan that permits 360 deg. shooting. Therefore the entire squad waits two berms back as the shooter and SO work through it. This means we have a set way of running it for safety sake (and for a couple of other reasons) that doesn't lend itself to the more common ways of speeding up a stage. We've worked on streamlining it for years and have our process down pretty well, but short of abandoning our particular approach (which our shooters seem to love!) and even doing a fair bit of earth-moving, we are where we are and we've made the best of it we're able.

You're always welcomed to shoot with us any time you're in the area if you'd like to run it and then offer your critique!

Again, look critically at the stage design and make it about the shooters rather than about the designer. Lolz! ;) Thanks, but I AM the stage designer (along with a couple of others) and I can assure you that a great deal of time and effort goes into making a balanced and challenging spread of COFs each month, for the benefit of the shooters. It might be awfully tempting to throw out a bunch of quick-n-dirty stages so I can get home in a hurry, but that's not why I was asked to be MD, and as long as we're still getting the smiles and kudos from our shooters I plan to keep on keepin' on.

At one club, with increasing IPDA participation, the above became a necessity and the stage designers refocused with noticeable (and much appreciated) match efficiency -- without any shooters feeling they were blasted through any stages or that the match experience was compromised.I try to shoot a fair number of matches at other clubs, and work on staff at 3-6 major matches each year. If there's anything I can bring home to improve efficiency and match experience, I absolutely do try to do so. Constant improvement is the goal!

btg3
September 8, 2013, 03:35 PM
Constant improvement is the goal!
Hard to ask for more than that. Any many thanks to the under-appreciated "worker bees" who commit many hours to hosting, setting up, and running matches.

dbp
September 8, 2013, 03:47 PM
Gee thanks HighRoad!! Now you've gone and done it! I've been thinking about trying IDPA but can't begin for a couple more months and you have to post this thread! ;)

BTW -- I have a Glock 26. Would that be adequate to start with?

84B20
September 8, 2013, 08:34 PM
I joined IDPA a few months ago and have been to 3 matches so far, today was a qualifier. It is great fun but more importantly, it is great for stress training. I am not really interested in matches as a sport but more for real life training scenarios. The qualifier was only $5 and took only 90 rounds to complete.

grubbylabs
September 8, 2013, 11:38 PM
A good friend of mine got into it a few months ago and I really got excited about it, but as it turns out nothing in my area and the one shooting event that does happen here, happens while I am at work.:(

So I guess I will have to wait for a while.

I am guessing that I will learn more about shooting at a couple of events than I have been able to learn on my own over the last few years.

Buzznrose
September 8, 2013, 11:49 PM
Check out http://www.texastactical.net/matches/idpa.asp

Fun group of folks, and new shooters and kids are welcome.

breakingcontact
September 9, 2013, 12:11 AM
^+1 ive shot with them. Good time.

TennJed
September 9, 2013, 01:36 AM
I'm considering starting to shoot IDPA this year, even though my only handgun at the moment isn't IDPA legal. I attended a match two years ago just to check it out, and it looked ridiculously fun!
Because of this thread I looked over the IDPA website but couldn't really find out what guns you can you. Can someone explain to a beginner about the equipment (guns, holster, any reloading ammo restrictions)

btg3
September 9, 2013, 06:12 AM
http://www.idpa.com/compete/rules

Perhaps you overlooked the rules page at IDPA.com? Here's a link. The rules will answer better than I could render in a brief post.

Sam1911
September 9, 2013, 07:54 AM
There's a pretty simple new shooters' packet that explains everything:

http://pemi.org/pdf/idpainfo.pdf

Basically, if you've got a standard service-type pistol or revovler, and three mags or four speedloaders, and a strong-side belt holster for it, you're probably just about set for your first match!

tarakian
September 9, 2013, 02:28 PM
I'm lucky enough to have somewhere to shoot IDPA every weekend. Most matches in my area typically take about 2:15 to shoot, usually 5 or 6 stages. I just bumped the monthly match I run up to 7 stages to keep group sizes down, which keeps the shooters happier. Still finish in under 2.5 hrs, but less waiting around. Nobody seems to mind being there a little longer as long as the shoot/waiting to shoot ratio is good. If growth continues, I am prepared to go to 8 stages.

Using a bunch of simple stages just to speed through gets boring in a hurry. I like to keep things mixed up with some tougher ones. As long as everyone pitches in to paste and police brass, things run quite smoothly.

Stevie-Ray
September 9, 2013, 06:07 PM
I'm hoping to be able to do this this year. If I don't sell my house before winter, I'm sure it'll be another year, though.:( Like to get back into pin shooting as well.

smalls
September 9, 2013, 06:48 PM
Because of this thread I looked over the IDPA website but couldn't really find out what guns you can you. Can someone explain to a beginner about the equipment (guns, holster, any reloading ammo restrictions)

There really aren't many service type pistols you can't use. But anything with a bull barrel over 4.2 inches is my problem. Mines 4.26 inches :rolleyes:

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