Need Recommendation on 28 Gauge Over/Under


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CZ-Guy
September 8, 2013, 01:39 PM
Hey Guys,

I'm looking for a 28 gauge over/under shotgun in the $1,000 range. At the local Academy and Bass Pro, I've got options for Yildez, Savage, Mossberg...all around or under $600. I could probably also find a Stoeger in the $400 range. Or, I could order something in like a CZ Redhead Mini in 28 gauge in the $900 range. I've also considered a Webley & Scott 900 in the $1,000 range.

I've already got a Browning Cynergy in 20 gauge that is awesome. I will be separately looking for a 12 gauge, but only after I scratch the 28 gauge itch. I've gotten into shooting trap, skeet and sporting clays, and would like to have a couple of different options for myself and others that occasionally go with me to the range.

Anyway, I'm looking for opinions on the above - or other recommendations in the $1,000-ish range.

Thanks all.

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oneounceload
September 8, 2013, 05:29 PM
That's a tough nut to crack for something of quality - in ANY gauge in that price range

All of those guns are made in Turkey, and while Turkey has a factory or two that make decent guns, none of those makers use them. For some occasional use, they might do OK, but you will need to check for proper barrel regulation along with fit and finish

read this thread from SGW:

I've got $0-$600 to spend
Look, I hear you. You want an Over/Under because that's what everybody has. Your options at this price point are limited. Understand what you are getting into and that you're not going to be the next Anthony Matarese with a CZ. There are some guns in this range that have better reputations (like the CZ and other Huglu branded guns). There are others with not-so-great reputations. Understand at this level that there is a greater likelihood that you're going to have problems. For somebody that shoots about 1000 rounds a year or less, you will probably get along OK with a CZ, Mossberg Silver Reserve, or a Yildiz (if you live in the Southeast near an Academy Sports).

For target shooting, I think there are much better options in this price range than an Over/Under. The Mossberg 930 series Semiautomatic is a great choice if you have to have something new. Another great new choice is the Beretta 390 that some big-box stores are selling right around $550. If you are confident in your gun-buying ability or you're just feeling lucky, a used Remington 1100, Browning Gold, Winchester SX2/3, or a Beretta 390/391 are all good choices for target guns.


I've got $600 - $800 to spend
We're into the range where careful shoppers can come out with a nice gun. If you are looking for something new, your first stop is CDNN Investments (http://www.cdnninvestments.com, download the latest catalog). CDNN is retailing a bunch of Lanber 2087 and 2097 shotguns in this range. Lanber guns are reliable and to me handle like a Browning. You can get them in nice target configurations with 30" barrels.

Another new option is the Savage Milano. While these guns are not in production anymore, they have been selling in the $800 range from places like Bass Pro. I don't expect these guns to be for sale much longer. I feel that the Savage Milano (A F.A.I.R. gun) feel most like a Beretta.

On the used gun market, you have more options. Typically in this range you will find older Browning/Beretta/SKB guns with either fixed chokes or short (26") barrels. At one time 26" barrels were all the rage in skeet, so it's not that they're bad, they're just not as desirable today as longer barrels.


I've got $800 - $1200 to spend
This is the sweet spot for bargain hunters. Most of your bargains in this range are going to come from people selling nicely equipped entry-level upper grade guns. Here you're going to start to see things like older Browning Citoris with 28" and 30" barrels. You will also start to see Beretta 68x with Mobilchoke barrels in this range. Another good gun in this range is a Franchi.

Every now and then something will show up in this range that the discriminating buyer will recognize as a deal. Nicely equipped guns like an LL Bean (by SigArms/B.Rizinni) or Weatherby guns (by SKB) will start showing up in this range. Most guns in this range are going to be 28" or 30" barrels.

If you are looking for new, you want to navigate over to CDNN. They have been closing out some Winchesters and Weatherby guns under $1000 with decent barrel lengths. Again, these guns are not current production, but what do you care?


I've got $1200 - $2000 to spend
This is the sweet spot for the target shooter that wants to start getting serious about his equipment but doesn't want to spend an arm and a leg to do it. Toward the bottom of this range ($1200 - $1500) you will be looking at former kings of competition; Browning 425/Ultra/GTi, Beretta 686/687/or a well used 682, and Modern SKBs. In the upper end of this range, you will find the more desirable barrel lengths and better wood.

Most guns in this range are going to be current production guns, but used.

Be educated in this range on what your options are. Some of the F.A.I.R. guns or the B.Riz guns that fall into this range are hidden gems.

If you are patient, you may even find a used Caesar Guerini in this range.

Most guns in this range are going to be 30" or 32" barrels.

Be patient, you will find what you are looking for on the used market. It helps to understand what the gun you are looking for sells for new.

Also, if you are looking for new guns, you should take a look at CDNN Investments again. They run specials on nicely equipped target guns that are closeouts from some of the bigger manufacturers. Recently they have had some very nice Browning Cynergys and 525s in the $1400- $1800 range. In fact, CDNN has some nice JP Saur Sohn branded Caesar Guerinis selling at $1800 or below.


I've got $2000 - $5000 to spend
You're getting serious about your shotgunning now. Here you will be looking at new guns with all the bells and whistles you are looking for. The big names in this range are Browning, Beretta, and Caesar Guerini.

A hidden gem in this range is the Zoli guns from Antonio Zoli.

Feel and fit is important in this range, because you're going to have this gun for a long time. If you are oddly shaped like me, a fitted gun may be in your future and you'll be able to find one in this range.


I've got over $5000 to spend
Dude, why are you asking me? If you're spending this kind of jack, you already know what you want. If you don't know what you want, stick with an off-the-rack gun until you know what you want

realize the writer was talking about more about 12 or 20 - 28's are even harder and more expensive

CZ-Guy
September 8, 2013, 07:39 PM
I've read positive things about the CZ guns being Huglu imports. And I frequent CDNN, it's where I purchased my Browning Cynergy in 20ga. I've been keeping an eye on CDNN for a while, but their current selection isn't great. I see several Lanber shotguns in 12ga, but haven't heard much about them, good or bad.

I see they currently have a Winchester Select 101 in 12ga as well. Looks sharp. But again, I'm not currently looking for a 12ga.

So I take it you are giving the thumbs down to the Huglu-imported CZ Redhead series as well as the Webley & Scott 900?

Superreverb
September 8, 2013, 08:21 PM
Why not buy a decent 12-ga O/U, then buy a set of Briley 28-ga tubes that'll fit it? That's what I did and I couldn't be happier.

YMMV

Regards - Ed

oneounceload
September 8, 2013, 08:29 PM
Again, for some casual use and low round counts - they might be fine and do you OK; that's a chance you need to determine that you want to take. The Turks ARE getting better with their gun making, but realize that a low price point gun, no matter where it is made, has had some corners cut in order to make that price point. It therefore becomes YOUR decision to make. I own a Turkish gun, (NOT made by Huglu) and it is a great, well-made SxS that is well-made and works excellently, so the capability is there.........that said, for about the same money in question, I might also look at a lightly used Uggie (Ugartechea) from Spain

rule303
September 8, 2013, 08:47 PM
You might be able to find a Ruger Red Label in your price range. I always thought the 12 and 20ga Red Labels are a little clunky, but the 28's are perfect IMO. The prices have been climbing since they were discontinued though.

waterhouse
September 8, 2013, 11:07 PM
I don't know what they sell for now, but my used Beretta 28 ga came in under $1000. It is the lowest grade of adornment offered, matte black and no polish, but it is mechanically perfect. I'd try and find something like that if they are available still for that price range.

oneounceload
September 9, 2013, 09:07 AM
Here's (http://www.gunsinternational.com/28-Gauge-Shotguns.cfm?cat_id=785)
a listing of 591 28 gauge guns for sale;

And here (http://28gasociety.46.forumer.com/index.php) is the 28 Gauge Society's website where you can ask about different makes and models and get good info from folks who live and breath their 28s

HTH

clang
September 9, 2013, 10:50 PM
Whatever you buy, make sure it has a decent resale value.

28 gauge shotguns are not for everyone. Most of them are built on 20 gauge frames, so you really don't save any significant weight over a 20.

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