Russian Czarist frontier sword ?


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hso
September 14, 2013, 11:26 AM
Pics won't post from my BB, but I'm looking at a sawback 1832 marked brass grip/guard curved short sword with russian or Greek markings.

Anyone seen anything like that?

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YZ
September 14, 2013, 11:57 AM
Yes, if you post what it says in Greek/Cyrillic characters.

Sam Cade
September 14, 2013, 04:01 PM
A bit like a short sawback shasqua with quillions?

Most likely its a czarist 1827 pattern pioneer sword.


Edit: Like this?

http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/images/480/98000-98999/98511.jpg

Sam Cade
September 14, 2013, 04:05 PM
Beware of re-pros.

http://www.ima-usa.com/russian-imperial-m-1827-sawback-falchion-pioneer-sword.html

hso
September 14, 2013, 06:10 PM
Bingo!

Nice old guy got it without the sheath. Prices on the net are all over the place for the Crimean War Pioneer swords. Repros are around $125 and originals are $350 and way up (+$1,000 for some reason). Luckily the repros aren't marked like the range of these that are supposed to be authentic.

YZ
September 14, 2013, 08:01 PM
More of a tool than a weapon. A number of them were brought back from the Crimean War. The fading stamp appears to be П.Г. for quality inspection.

hso
September 15, 2013, 12:16 AM
Thanks!

Any unit markings visible?

YZ
September 15, 2013, 08:03 AM
Can't tell, sorry. Chances are the uniform code did not exist, yet.

Gordon
September 15, 2013, 04:39 PM
Nice sword! maybe Stephan Fowler will be up to his interpretation of one of those next for me.:D

Bartholomew Roberts
September 16, 2013, 05:39 PM
The markings on the brass hilt are Roman letters, not Cyrillic - maybe some type of import mark? The markings on the blade are Cyrillic: П. Г. (P. G.) and МА...ТО (same as Roman letters)

YZ
September 18, 2013, 12:34 AM
The AG on the hilt was a trade mark of Abraham Grah. Several members of the Grah family from Zolingen, Germany worked at the edged weapons armory in Russia.

hso
September 18, 2013, 02:58 PM
Thanks everyone for the info.

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