Help me decide SIG P238 or Colt Mustang XSP or standard Mustang


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Safetyfast
September 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
I've narrowed my new purchase choices to the following:
SIG P238 Nitron- $595 out the door
Colt Mustang stainless - $694
Colt Mustang XSP - $684

I have not gotten to handle the Mustang, would have to order it. Have handled the SIG and liked it. I do like the Colt mystique, and I'm a big Ford Mustang guy, so the name calls to me, but is the Colt worth nearly $100 more? If so, which Colt? I'm not crazy about the sights on the stainless Colt, and can't see shelling out $200 to get custom sights. The XSP takes care of the sights, but doesn't have the aluminum frame and changeable grips. Please help me make up my mind.

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horsemen61
September 18, 2013, 01:38 PM
Sig and be done with it I love mine

Safetyfast
September 18, 2013, 02:45 PM
Sig and be done with it I love mine

Which SIG did you get?


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2wheels
September 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
The stainless Colt is nice, I wish I had one simply because I'm a Colt fanboy (they weren't available when I bought my P238), but it is not IMHO worth $100 more.

The XSP... Is just ugly to me...

The P238 is what I'd recommend unless you really want the Colt. I'm very happy with mine, it's a great little pocket gun.

Safetyfast
September 18, 2013, 06:07 PM
Anyone have any issues carrying in the pocket holster locked an cocked?

I was originally planning on an LCP but think I'll like the 1911 style better. I currently have a Diamondback 380 for pocket carry and I'm just not too crazy about the way it shoots.


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Snowdog
September 18, 2013, 06:43 PM
I carry a P238 quite a bit. Mine is the HD model (all stainless, kind of weighty). It's not a pocket pistol as it's both heavy and I favor condition 1 for this pistol.

Mine rides in a small tuckable kydex/leather holster and I forget I'm packing most of the time. Heck, I have it on me right now and it seeing this post reminded me I haven't taken it off yet.

I still carry a P32 for yard work, but when out and about, I've replaced my P32 with my P238 for "light" days. The P238 is much heavier and a bit thicker then my P32, but overall it's not so much bigger.

About 400 rounds of various FMJs/FMJ-FN and JHPs (primarily Winchester 95gr Rangers Talon) and not a single malfunction to date during the "break in" period. Accurate and incredibly mild recoiling as well.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8737645083_dd74fe50ac_z.jpg

2wheels
September 18, 2013, 10:29 PM
Anyone have any issues carrying in the pocket holster locked an cocked?

I was originally planning on an LCP but think I'll like the 1911 style better. I currently have a Diamondback 380 for pocket carry and I'm just not too crazy about the way it shoots.


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No, use a holster and you'll be fine. The safety on the Sig (no experience with the Colt) is not likely to accidentally disengage in your pocket, and even if it does that's why you use a holster!

So no worries, pocket carry with confidence.

horsemen61
September 18, 2013, 11:21 PM
I carry mine cocked and locked and have no problems with it whatsoever :D

horsemen61
September 18, 2013, 11:22 PM
And I carry a p238 btw

Safetyfast
September 19, 2013, 12:49 AM
Sounds like the consensus if for the SIG. I just need to go shopping. Trying to decide on which one. I like the two tone black wood and the nitron with rosewood grips the best.
I've seen some good deals on the "sport" model with laser, but I doubt I would use the laser as more than a novelty, it would just add bulk, and I don't like the rubber grips.

rskent
September 19, 2013, 05:55 AM
You gotta love the P238. A great little shooter. Sig out did Colt on this one. Now if the Colt came with night sights it might be different situation.

At first I carried it in my pocket, now I just use a belt holster. It hides great under a T shirt. Little gun, big belly.

bannockburn
September 19, 2013, 07:33 AM
I have both; a Colt Mustang and a SIG P-238 (black "itron finish, night sights, and rosewood grips). 8 tend to think of the SIG as a product improvement over the Colt, sort of like an upgrade in features and content. Both guns are extremely reliable and sharing a similiar heritage are very easy to carry and shoot. For the money I think the SIG is the better buy.

5-SHOTS
September 19, 2013, 07:47 AM
I have the Colt Government 380 and I love it. I see the SIG more like a shooting and carry piece with better sights than the Colt. For proud ownership I think the stainless Mustang Colt is a better choice: it's nicer and it's the original. I like the plymer version: for carry it could be the best choice.

Mainsail
September 19, 2013, 12:36 PM
You can get the Sig using their IOP for less than what you posted, if you qualify (mil, leo, retired mil or leo).

Safetyfast
September 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
You can get the Sig using their IOP for less than what you posted, if you qualify (mil, leo, retired mil or leo).

Interesting. I didn't realize they had that program. That's how I bought my Glock.


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Safety First
September 19, 2013, 11:45 PM
I looked at the Colt Mustang and Sig P238 today. I like both but I liked the Sig better.

Safetyfast
September 25, 2013, 05:11 PM
P238 should arrive in a couple of days. Anxiously awaiting its arrival.


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Mainsail
September 25, 2013, 06:47 PM
Did you order it through the IOP? I've been waiting SIX months...so far. :mad:

Robbins290
September 25, 2013, 08:46 PM
I had the mustang and p238. Kept the p238. The mustang was a plus II model. I replace the springs every year. She was not reliable. The sig has been 100%. Even with crappy reloads

Dorrin79
September 25, 2013, 08:55 PM
I've had a 238 HD (steel framed model - slightly heavier than the normal alloy framed versions) for a year and a half. It has become my primary carry gun over that time because I can easily pocket carry it in most cargo pants / cargo shorts / casual slacks using a RKBA rawhide pocket holster - it prints a little but thanks to the holster, it just looks like I have a big smartphone in my pocket.

I believe I paid $599 for mine, which included a Sig-branded OWB kydex holster and 2 6-round (flush fit) magazines.

I have put about 500 rounds through it at the range in the time I've had it. No reliability issues, and it is surprisingly accurate for such a tiny gun. Very little recoil, either (which is good since I can't get my pinky finger onto the grip)

I added a Hogue wrap grip to mine but it's not really necessary, especially if you have smaller hands and can get a full grip on the gun.

I can't imagine paying a premium for the Colt version, personally.

Safetyfast
September 25, 2013, 09:03 PM
Did you order it through the IOP? I've been waiting SIX months...so far. :mad:

No. I bid it off on GB. It was actually a little cheaper than IOP.


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Oneeyejd
September 25, 2013, 10:50 PM
May I add to "story": Have the P238 and the P938 now. Wife carries the P238 and I have moved to P938--bit more impact and only 1/4" longer. Ambi safety makes the difference for me, a left hander. Teach "Intro" handgun classes and after handling 12-15 handguns, the results for "new students" is that the P238 is the choice above all others. Beats the Colt, LCP, and certainly the Taurus, KelTec, etc........

kokapelli
September 26, 2013, 08:28 PM
May I add to "story": Have the P238 and the P938 now. Wife carries the P238 and I have moved to P938--bit more impact and only 1/4" longer. Ambi safety makes the difference for me, a left hander. Teach "Intro" handgun classes and after handling 12-15 handguns, the results for "new students" is that the P238 is the choice above all others. Beats the Colt, LCP, and certainly the Taurus, KelTec, etc........
Didn't you mean the 938 is a bit less compact?

AFDavis11
September 26, 2013, 08:32 PM
9mm= more impact :)

kokapelli
September 26, 2013, 09:46 PM
9mm= more impact :)
"impact?" IMO impact is irrelivent in handgun calibers. Blood loss or central nervous system hits are everything in these calibers.

Safetyfast
October 8, 2013, 09:58 AM
Settled on the Sig. Very pleased so far. Only hiccups were some cheap Tulammo rounds that failed to fire despite direct strike to primer.
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Vodoun da Vinci
October 8, 2013, 10:14 AM
+1 on the P238 HD if you can find one. Shot one - loved it. Wanna buy one, can't find one. I have Colts and have shot Mustangs *but* the Sig is like coming home for me.

VooDoo

2wheels
October 8, 2013, 10:35 AM
I've had issues with the primers on steel cased TulAmmo as well. Never a problem with any brand of brass cased ammo.

Mainsail
October 16, 2013, 09:52 PM
After six months, the IOP Sig P238 finally arrived. Three magazines and night sights. Wife loves it and we can't wait to get it out and shoot it.

http://www.topohiker.com/FS/P238.png

madFive
October 17, 2013, 09:24 PM
Good choice OP, the 238 is a great pocket gun! The only problem I've ever had with mine was when the range officer yelled at me for shooting it too fast. :D

I'd love to try the Colt too. Wasn't available when I was in the market a few years ago. I still haven't heard how the reliability of the new Mustangs are - from what I've read they weren't that great before they were discontinued in the 90's.

http://www.laminackdesign.net/photo12/p238.jpg

I tried carrying mine cocked & locked in a pocket-holster for a while, but I never could get the retention right and wasn't satisfied with my draw times. So now I generally just carry it condition-3 loose in pocket and train for Israeli draw, which works much better for me. Depending on your state laws you may have a few options to try. The 238 also works great with a small IWB holster, as long as you don't forget it's there and run it through the laundry. ;)

Safetyfast
October 17, 2013, 10:15 PM
I'm really liking it so far. I'm carrying it in a Remora holster.

Mainsail
October 18, 2013, 12:07 AM
We hit a snag on ours- the front night-sight is almost dead. In a dark room, when you bring the gun up to eye level all you see are the two rear dots.

I'll have to give Sig a call. I hope they don't want the whole gun or slide. :(

madFive
October 18, 2013, 10:09 AM
^^^They will send you just the sites. When I wanted to have them installed on mine I wasn't sure what size I needed, so I called them up and was able to order directly from them. They have a great set that is the Sig night-sites for rear and Tru-Glow fiber-optic for the front which I have on there now. That front dot glows nice and bright day or night now. Love it.

Also, I don't have the laser on mine anymore - it was fun for mag-dumps at the range, but I couldn't find a good way to carry it with the laser attached.

Mainsail
October 18, 2013, 11:55 AM
^^^Thanks madFive. Are they easy enough to swap out or do I need a pro?

madFive
October 18, 2013, 01:03 PM
I took mine to a local gunsmith who put 'em in for $20. Probably not hard to do if you have a site-pusher.

Mainsail
October 22, 2013, 12:02 AM
^^^Called today, they're sending a new set of #6s in the mail.

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