Any unusual accidental discharges?


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Jacobus Rex
March 24, 2004, 09:33 AM
I'm curious about any unusual accidental discharges that anyone has had? ie., no finger in the trigger guard, gun in holster, etc. Specifically as it relates to CCW's but also any other.

I'll give an example:

I've never seen one do it in person, however, SKS's will fire when vibration such as riding on an ATV or tractor causes the sear to disengage even with the safety on. I know of a case in this area and I've read of others.

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Red_SC
March 24, 2004, 10:19 AM
Thanks for the tip on the SKS- I didn't know about it. The only one I've had involved an SKS, too. I filled the mag and released the bolt. I thought it closed all the way, but it hung up slightly out of battery. When I pulled the trigger it didn't click or anything. When I bumped the bolt handle forward, it fired (in a safe direction.) Near 'bout broke my hand when the bolt came back!

Swamprabbit
March 24, 2004, 10:24 AM
My story involved rabbit hunting with my father-in-law. He had a bad habbit of not paying too much attention to keeping his shotgun safety on and while walking through some tall grass, a blade of fescue (sp?) somehow got caught in the trigger guard and pulled the trigger. I saw it happen so I don't think he was actually trying to knock off his new son-in-law :confused: .

TimRB
March 24, 2004, 10:25 AM
"When I bumped the bolt handle forward, it fired (in a safe direction.) Near 'bout broke my hand when the bolt came back!"

Don't mean to sidetrack the thread, but if you ever have to bump the bolt to get it into battery (think M1) you should do it palm-up. That way if it slam-fires, the bolt handle will tend to slide off the top of your palm rather than push it into your wrist.

Tim

Red_SC
March 24, 2004, 10:50 AM
"When I bumped the bolt handle forward, it fired (in a safe direction.) Near 'bout broke my hand when the bolt came back!"

Don't mean to sidetrack the thread, but if you ever have to bump the bolt to get it into battery (think M1) you should do it palm-up. That way if it slam-fires, the bolt handle will tend to slide off the top of your palm rather than push it into your wrist.

Tim

You're right. I was in my mid teens and that was my first gun of that type. Since then, I've learned two things. First, if that happens, just pull the bolt back and eject the round. The trigger will reset. Second, pull the bolt fully back and release to chamber a round. Then, ya don't have the problem to start with.;)

uglymofo
March 24, 2004, 11:07 AM
I was told that a plainclothes cop in a town I'll not mention had to use the facilities one night. Supposedly, he swiped the safety off on his 1911 as he pulled it out of his IWB (purportedly, habit), and without noticing that (or at least thinking about it), hung it on a hook buy the trigger. It went off on contact because of the weight behind it, and the recoil set off 3 more rounds before the gun fell to the floor. I've been in that police station potty, and there are only two "holes" left unpatched (in the concrete floor and cinderblock wall) to testify to this episode. It could be the local urban legend, but if it is, there's a cop being defamed by name in the local constabulary.

williamcrane
March 24, 2004, 11:15 AM
I can't understand, even with the safety off, a 1911 could discharge when hung on a hook - the grip safety has to be fully engaged.:rolleyes:

uglymofo
March 24, 2004, 11:24 AM
Maybe that's why most guys don't pin them anymore. I used to tape mine down.

mtnbkr
March 24, 2004, 11:25 AM
I had an Erma copy of a PPK in 22lr that slamfired when I racked the slide to chamber a round. My finger was off the trigger (witness even said so) and it was pointed in a safe direction. This was in the woods during a camping trip, so nobody other than those in camp noticed, but it still shook me up pretty good.

Several years later, I learned that the gun was on a list of firearm recalls for slamfiring like that.

Chris

keyhole
March 24, 2004, 12:25 PM
"Maybe that's why most guys don't pin them anymore."

Reason why they designed the safeties! Bypassin them , means problems.
Can't blame the gun if ya do it.

FNFiveSeven
March 24, 2004, 01:49 PM
Had a Para-ordnance P14 slamfire on me after chambering the first round from a new mag... sold that gun to a dealer (and informed him of the problem) the next day.

Had Winchester Model 70 just go off after chambering a round and turning down the bolt. :what:

Had an M1A "double" on me (effectively go into 2-round burst mode without warning).

Thrash1982
March 24, 2004, 05:46 PM
Was out shooting once with an old bolt action .22. I had just inserted a fresh magazine, had my left hand holding the forend while my right hand closed the bolt and it fired. Didn't have anything anywhere near the trigger.

ken w.
March 24, 2004, 05:58 PM
I was at a gun show last fall and the vendor in the same row as me had a shotgun go off.A guy picked up a Mossberg 500 and as he was lifting it off the table "bang" it went off right in front of me!The shot hit the ceiling.If it had gone off at just a little bit lower of an angle I think it would have killed the two vendors standing in the next row. The vendor said he checked the gun and it was empty before the show,but i really dought it.He said an anti put the shell in the gun when he wasn't looking.I find that hard to believe too.

PALEFACE
March 24, 2004, 05:59 PM
nope......can't say i have:D

Dr.Rob
March 24, 2004, 06:04 PM
Had it happen on a custom built 1911.. pointed downrange, loaded it and the hammer fell, and it went off.

Scared me good.

SunBear
March 24, 2004, 11:10 PM
Detonics Pocket NIne.... I released the slide on a full magazine and the first round slam-fired. Into the concrete floor.....good training!! :what: :D I am eternally grateful to Y'shua of Nazareth for His great love that kept Him on the cross and His glorious resurrection.

Sisco
March 24, 2004, 11:27 PM
This happened several years ago in my hometown, don't have any more details but I personally knew the people involved.
.410 ga shotgun, one in the tube, hanging in a rear window rack in a pickup. Couple and their two kids arrived at home, got out of the truck and when one of the doors slammed the shotgun went off.
The shot went through the side of the cab and struck the wife in the side of the face. She went down, not unconscious but unable to react (from the shock most likely). Her husband thought she was dead and made the kids get away. She could hear everything being said but couldn't speak or move.
She survived in pretty good shape actually, minimal scarring and no nerve or muscle damage. A few years later she had a pellet or two work their way out to just under the first layer of skin, could squeeze them like a pimple and the pellet would come out. :eek:

brookstexas
March 24, 2004, 11:45 PM
I was in this go-go bar in the Phillipines and well, oh never mind....
:)

Nick1911
March 25, 2004, 12:22 AM
:what:
wow

wardog
March 25, 2004, 12:44 AM
Here's mine...http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59494&highlight=weirdest

Stand_Watie
March 25, 2004, 02:32 AM
A friend of mine had an SKS that double fired.

badgerrr
March 25, 2004, 03:38 AM
Friend of mine had a Star PD .45. Was loaded with one in the tube. Hammer down and saftey off. He did a quick little draw with it ( without touching the hammer) and reholstered it. I saw the leather just slightly catch the ejection port and cammed the slide back less than an inch. Then it released and "WHAM".

Blew the end of the Hunter holster open and the 190gr SWC went down thru the floor. Sure got our attention! :what:

entropy
March 25, 2004, 06:48 AM
Who usually has AD's?;) :p
My Dad deafened my uncle(for a day or two), who was walking behind him moose hunting. The safety on his Sako was knocked off by his 629 in it's holster, and then the hammer of the 629 caught the trigger of the Sako.:what: I was walking behind my uncle, and I couldn't hear for the rest of the day!:eek:
All the more reason I use a tac sling, or carry African. (Left shoulder, butt up)
I had an AR I built double on me when the sear pin slipped out. I staked it in and had no more problems with it.:o

4570Rick
March 25, 2004, 07:15 AM
A friend of mine had an early model AMT Backup .380. While demonstrating to a friend of his, some safety aspects of firearms, he had the guy point the pistol down range and with the safety “ON”, pull the trigger…nothing. Then he had his friend place his trigger finger along side the frame above the trigger guard then instructed him to flip the safety selector switch to “OFF.” BANG :what:

Apparently this is a problem with early models only, but as a result I will not have anyone attempt this with a live round in the pipe even at the range.

Sisco
March 25, 2004, 07:23 AM
I was in this go-go bar in the Phillipines and well, oh never mind....
Been there, done that. :D

Joe Demko
March 25, 2004, 09:16 AM
When I was a kid, after a deer hunt I had a Remington Mohawk 600 go off when I moved the safety to "fire" to unlock the bolt for unloading. Nobody was hurt but me. I wasn't shot either. My dad was so angry at my "carelessness" that he punched me in the face. Mohawk 600's were later part of a recall for this defect.

Red_SC
March 25, 2004, 10:58 AM
The president of my hunting club, who is very safety conscious, was blackpowder hunting with another man. At the end of the hunt, he took the cap off the nipple and put the gun into the truck with the muzzle down in the floorboard. The friction from rubbing against the seat set the powder off and put a ball into the engine block.

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