Pocket Pistol Choices


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seeker_two
February 4, 2003, 12:20 PM
B/t the two listed (I know there are other options, but I'm curious about these two), which would you choose to carry & why?

.22 auto
Pros-- More ammo. Quick reload. Lighter. Quick to shoot.
Cons-- Smaller caliber. Sometimes not reliable.

.357 Derringer
Pros-- Powerful ammo (either .38 or .357). Interchangeable ammo w/ larger gun. More reliable than auto.
Cons-- 2 shots only. Most are SA-only. Recoil. Poor accuracy past belly-gun range.

Your opinions, please....

(EDIT-- The reason I'm asking is d/t a conversation I'd heard at a gun store comparing the two. That's why I've limited it to these selections. Others need not apply...)

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MJRW
February 4, 2003, 01:16 PM
I'd like to vote neither, please.

tetchaje1
February 4, 2003, 01:30 PM
I'd vote NAA Guardian in 32NAA (Corbon), thank you. :)

http://www.cor-bon.com/32%20NAAretail_files/image002.jpg

Erich
February 4, 2003, 02:06 PM
I personally would also vote "neither," and try to find a J-frame.

If you must choose between those two, I suppose the .22 that you can at least fire controllably beats the slow, huge, heavy .357 derringer.

WhoKnowsWho
February 4, 2003, 02:22 PM
Between the two, I'd choose the PT-22 also, aiming and multiple shots are better than a couple of missed .357 shots.

cratz2
February 4, 2003, 02:28 PM
I would not feel very well armed with either at all. With the P32, P11 and the upcoming 380 version, as well as the Guardian and others, I can't see seriously carrying either of the two you list.

If those were the only two I owned, I'd carry the 22 pistol. I have very little faith in derringers in general and I wouldn't count on the bullet of the 38 hitting cone first.

Also, if those were the only two I owned, I'd trade them both in for a P32 or P11.

10-Ring
February 4, 2003, 02:35 PM
Since I won't be the first, I too am voting neither. I've got issues w/ the 22 lr as a defensive round & don't really like derringers for the reasons mentioned. I'd go w/ a lightweight j-frame 38 instead :cool:

denfoote
February 4, 2003, 03:55 PM
Neither!!!
Glock 36!!!
It fits in a Galco PH286 pocket holster and gives you full .45ACP firepower!! :evil:

A second choice for a mousegun would be the Kahr MK9. It fits comfortably in the pocket, is full power 9mm +P+ rated, and is a damn sight better than a .22 RF!!!!! :D

tbeb
February 4, 2003, 04:54 PM
I do not like the .22 for self defense because it is a rimfire which gives less reliable primer ignition than a centerfire. So, between the two I would choose the derringer in a centerfire caliber like .38 special.

I do not consider the derringer a viable primary CCW because it is slow to fire and 2-shots may not be enough. The M1 is a single action, correct? You know American Derringer makes a double action derringer and that model is the DA 38.

I wouldn't carry either of your choices. I recommend a snub .38 revolver, like a used S&W model 36. It it's 19 oz. empty weight is too heavy for you, then an older used model 37 is same gun except it weighs 13 ozs.

gino
February 4, 2003, 08:51 PM
Another vote for neither...

DeltaElite
February 4, 2003, 09:24 PM
Of the two you list, I would take the Derringer in 357, since two for sure is better than none for sure from a Taurus product.

I prefer the J frame smiths, I have a 640 357 in my pocket as we speak.

Kahr carrier
February 4, 2003, 10:20 PM
Neither ,Guardian 380 or Kahr K-9.:)

Mike Irwin
February 4, 2003, 11:37 PM
I carried a PT-22 for a couple of years.

I shoot Winchester Wildcat through it.

In over 2,000 rounds with WC, not a SINGLE failure to feed, fire, or eject. 100% reliability.

I really think that the days of "the rimfire being less reliable" than the centerfire are over.

I've had more failures to fire with centerfire ammo than I have had with rimfire ammo over the last 20 years, and really precious few of either.

OldFatGuy
February 5, 2003, 12:26 AM
I spent 20 years on a big city police dept. "60s & '70s. The weapon with the largest number of kills??? other than cars, of course. RG .22 short. In those days they sold for $6.95, I think. Would I carry one? Not an RG, but I did carry a little flip top Baretta .22. It kept me from getting cut up with a roofing knife once too. I would carry an RG before I carried a Derringer of any caliber, but like everyone else has said, there are much better pocket guns than either of the two mentioned.

Blackhawk
February 5, 2003, 01:21 AM
Of those two choices, the .22.

But I prefer a few other choices.... :D

EJ
February 5, 2003, 01:29 AM
ANother neither and J frame vote -- :D

Johnny Guest
February 5, 2003, 06:43 PM
- - -I also would vote for neither. If I had MY CHOICE of .22 rimfires, I'd take a late pre-WW-II Colt Woodsman. Light, compact, reliable, accurate.

Or, if not limited to semi-auto .22, my Model 34 .22/32 Kit Gun.

Best,
Johnny

sixgun_symphony
February 6, 2003, 02:05 AM
I would not want a magnum chambering for any Derringer.

.38 special is more than enough.

M1911
February 6, 2003, 09:32 AM
Neither. A Kahr MK9 or a S&W 642. Smallest I'll go is a NAA .32 Guardian.

firestar
February 6, 2003, 01:57 PM
I had one of the Taurus PT-22s and it was a huge POS! I sent it back to the factory 2 times and it was still not fixed. I later sold it to a dealer for less than half what I paided for it and I was glad to get it.:rolleyes:

Don't buy this gun! Get the Beretta instead. Why pay almost as much for the Taurus when it is just a cheap copy of the Beretta? The Taurus looks well made but it just doesn't work!

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