Glock 22 Gen 3...vs...Ruger SR40


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JLH
September 23, 2013, 10:49 PM
I am considering the purchase of one or the other...both are used but are as-new-in-box....both come with 2-mags....Glock is $399.00 and Ruger is $350.00.....Which would be your preference, and why?

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ColtPythonElite
September 23, 2013, 10:58 PM
Glock. It has a great track record.

JR24
September 24, 2013, 03:24 AM
Can't speak for the full size but my current EDC is a SR40c and its done nothing but eat anything I feed it and shoot accurately to boot.

Glock ergonomics don't fit me personally, but its also a solid choice by all accounts. YMMV naturally.

Blue Brick
September 24, 2013, 08:00 AM
Ruger.

45_auto
September 24, 2013, 08:14 AM
There's a reason that the Glock costs more.

You get what you pay for - your choice.

HOOfan_1
September 24, 2013, 08:45 AM
There's a reason that the Glock costs more.


What is that reason?

I am sure some people say that about Bose speakers as well.

Not saying there isn't a valid reason, but I own a Glock 19 and an SR9c, and I've yet to find a reason why they Glock should cost more...

horsemen61
September 24, 2013, 08:48 AM
I'd go with the glock that's just me though I am a fan the SR series from ruger has never really done it or me if you know what I mean.

jmr40
September 24, 2013, 08:50 AM
If the Ruger were significanly cheaper maybe, but for $50 I'd not even think about it. That is 2 boxes of ammo. You'll shoot that up in the 1st range trip. Buy the Glock.

Blue Brick
September 24, 2013, 08:54 AM
You get what you pay for

And what is that?? Unsupported chambers and KBooms? I’ll pass on that. Hi Point cost a fraction of a Glock, yet can you find an accidental KBoom?

TarDevil
September 24, 2013, 09:21 AM
My personal choice would be the Ruger...but it may not be right for you.

mboe794
September 24, 2013, 09:52 AM
I have an SR that I really like. Feels really good in the hand. I have shot a few Glocks, but I just cant warm up to them.

And as far as getting what you pay for.... thats another reason I am a fan of Ruger products. They offer an excellent value when compared to many other top makers. High quality products that arent artificially hyped up with high prices and sneaky marketing tactics, at least not as much. Plus, they are an Amercian company.

I once read somewhere that when Glocks first hit the U.S. market they were asking around $250 for them. Sales were bad because people perceived them as cheap junk. They doubled the price and then they sold like hot cakes.

Get what you pay for? Retail price has very little to do with the quality or cost of manufature of a product. Not just with firearms, with many products. People will pay what they THINK or FEEL it is worth.

Sorry, rant over. I vote Ruger.

HOOfan_1
September 24, 2013, 10:41 AM
So anyway as someone who owns a Glock 19 and an SR9c here are my thoughts

Pros for SR series
-Adjustable Sights
-IMO a better trigger, but not a huge difference
-IMO a better grip (with extension), again not a huge deal for me though
Pro or con depending on your preferences are the safety features...two of which are easy to remove.

Pro for the Glock
-Accessories and magazines are plentiful and cheaper than most other guns

Thruthfully, just because of the accessories aspect, I would likely go for the Glock if I had to choose one or the other.

Fishbed77
September 24, 2013, 11:25 AM
While I think the SR9 is the better gun in many respects (trigger, ergonomics, sights, no history of kabooms since it was designed from the start to handle .40S&W, customer service, etc), I'd probably just pick the Glock because mags, parts, and accessories are cheaper and easier to find.

mgmorden
September 24, 2013, 01:57 PM
Both will serve you well, so I don't think you're making a mistake with either.

Overall having shot both (but the 9mm versions thereof), I think the Ruger is the better gun, and a better value. It feels better in the hand, the sights are better, and its just as reliable. AND it costs less.

That said, as has already been mentioned Glock magazines are cheaper (particularly used Glock 22 mags as there's lots of LE surplus out there) so if you want to add a lot of magazines then the Glock may balance out on cost. I try to keep 5 mags for most of my pistols but 2 may be all you need.

Again though, I'd stress that neither of these guns is a "bad" pistol, so whichever you get shoot it and enjoy it without looking back.

HankR
September 24, 2013, 03:39 PM
If they were both the same price I'd get the Ruger -- I prefer having a safety and I think the Ruger is a better gun (never even fondled a sr40, but I did like the SR9C and the SR45 I've shot).

I'd probably even pay $50 extra for the Ruger, but that's my preference w/ the safety. I'd definitely get the Ruger for $50 less.

JustinJ
September 24, 2013, 03:58 PM
And what is that?? Unsupported chambers and KBooms? I’ll pass on that. Hi Point cost a fraction of a Glock, yet can you find an accidental KBoom?

When one considers the vastly higher number of Glocks in existence and the vastly higher amount of rounds that have been through them it becomes apparently clear how invalid that comparison is.

To the OP, i'd say it depends on usage. If this gun is expected to see hard use and high round count i'd go with the Glock, no question. If not, ergonomics and personal preference can be more of a consideration. However, even if just for HD and range use i'd prefer the Glock as reliability is second to none.

TestPilot
September 24, 2013, 04:32 PM
I'd pick Glock only because Ruger insists on putting in manual firng inhibitor that requires separate motion from pulling the trigger to engable fire.

Glock also has a finish that resists rust better.

Blue Brick
September 24, 2013, 04:34 PM
When one considers the vastly higher number of Glocks in existence and the vastly higher amount of rounds that have been through them it becomes apparently clear how invalid that comparison is.

It’s a very valid point. Is it parts per million error rate to you? How many Glock’s must be produced so that one can explode? Ever buy a police trade in? Cosmetically they are very rough, but inside they are barely used. Glock has a track record of catastrophic failures that can’t be ignored.

Texshooter
September 24, 2013, 07:13 PM
In the .40 - Ruger no doubt. The .40 cal in Glock was an afterthought. They knew the kool-aid drinkers would buy it regardless.

And add that to the fact that Ruger has a higher level of corporate integrity as well.

ritepath
September 24, 2013, 10:29 PM
Tough decision, I'd thought about both at one time, and ended up with a 229 in 40. Owned a G20 and love my SR45.

Either one is a good gun, I loved the feel of both. As always the glock has a reputation as #1 in plastic. IMHO the rugers are pretty darned good value and accurate as hell, but on par with the ugliness of the glocks. I like the external safety on the SR's, make's me more comfortable when handing it over to my 9yo son to shoot.

Too bad you can't find a used M&P 40 in that price range.

1006
September 25, 2013, 12:46 AM
I own neither but have shot both. I preferred the grip and trigger on the Ruger. I vote Ruger. Surprise surprise

RBid
September 25, 2013, 03:49 AM
I have owned or fired multiple SR pistols and Glocks. Still own an SR9c and two Glocks.

The SR has a far better trigger, in live or dry fire. It has a more universally enjoyed grip, is better looking, offers better standard sights, has a thumb safety (I dislike this 'feature'), and has a very low bore and excellent recoil management.

The Glock has far better market support and better surface treatment.

I would go with the Glock

45_auto
September 25, 2013, 07:57 AM
What is that reason?

The same reason that the vast majority of shooters with a serious interest in how well they shoot don't choose Rugers. Look at the results of ANY competitive service-caliber handgun competition and count the number of Rugers. It won't take you long.

The Rugers are clunky and ill-balanced for most shooters if you're interested in optimizing your performance. Although mechanically there's nothing really wrong with them, and realistically most people don't shoot often enough or well enough to notice any difference in the way they handle.

http://www.aafgidpa.com/admin/equpment_survey.htm

http://www.idpa.com/blog/?tag=/2012-IDPA-Nationals

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/46auto/Forum%20Posts%202/Gun%20Forum%20Pics/brands_zps9943a364.png

JRWhit
September 25, 2013, 08:31 AM
I own a Ruger SR9c and am bar none impressed with the accuracy for a compact. First time at the range I had no problem burying all of the ten round magazine into a ten inch plate at 25yds shooting off hand. The ergonomics fit me well and made it easy to hit the target.
But honestly, depending on duty of the pistol, If you are buying for defense purposes, that doesn't matter. If this is going to be a defensive pistol then your only concern is hitting a target within 10yds max. Either one would do that.
I've yet to get on the Glock Wagon and have never owned one. The biggest advantage I see with the Glock is the supporting market. Everything thing from triggers to barrel conversions they are like the small block chevy of the gun world. After market goodies are plentiful.
Quick suggestion, take each into stance and aim at a spot on a wall, if this is an option, and see which one more naturally aligns with the target. I really don't think you can go wrong with either one.
Best advise, if you still can't decide, get em both.

HOOfan_1
September 25, 2013, 08:51 AM
The same reason that the vast majority of shooters with a serious interest in how well they shoot don't choose Rugers. Look at the results of ANY competitive service-caliber handgun competition and count the number of Rugers. It won't take you long.


Well the OP didn't mention anything about competition.
Glock has been around for much longer than the SR series.
Glock SPONSORS competitors
Glock made guns SPECIFICALLY for competition (G34, G35)
I still don't see that is a "reason" why a STANDARD Glock should cost more.

JTQ
September 25, 2013, 09:23 AM
Both are very good companies that stand behind their products. I'd pick the one you like the best.

I think the Glock kabooms are over stated. I think they happen. I think they are most common with the .40 S&W models. I also think they happen when the shooters are running rounds through the gun they shouldn't be running through the gun.

On the other hand, the reason we have the Gen 4 family of Glocks is because of problems with the previous generation of .40 S&W Glocks (G22 primarily). The Gen 4 design was to fix problems with the G22 with a light attached.

sig228
September 25, 2013, 09:57 AM
Not sure about the Ruger, but that's an incredible price on the Glock. Are you getting an LEO / military discount or is that the everyday price?

If you are the kind of guy who likes to take apart your gun and change out the internals, or add things on, go for the Glock due to the sheer amount of aftermarket parts and accessories.

If not, both are great guns and either will serve you well.

45_auto
September 25, 2013, 05:36 PM
I still don't see that is a "reason" why a STANDARD Glock should cost more.

It's called "supply and demand".

Glocks are perceived by the majority of buyers as being a superior product, therefore they are able to "demand" a higher price.

Those who don't see things that way are free to buy the Ruger for less.

Same reason you'll pay $499 for a new Glock 22 at Bud's versus $411 for a new SR490.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_49_75/products_id/69980

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_43/products_id/73213

mgmorden
September 27, 2013, 01:32 AM
The same reason that the vast majority of shooters with a serious interest in how well they shoot don't choose Rugers. Look at the results of ANY competitive service-caliber handgun competition and count the number of Rugers. It won't take you long.

That tracks almost exclusively to the fact that Ruger has no long slide version of the SR series. If you look at the Glocks used in competition it's 90% dominated by the Glock 34. I personally shoot an M&P 9L but if Ruger made a 5" version of the SR9 that's what I would be shooting - and I'd wager a fairly decent number of other people would be too.

That said though, those long barrel guns so commonly found in competition aren't really all that common for duty/carry. The Ruger is a perfectly good choice for that.

easyg
September 28, 2013, 02:33 AM
I would choose the one that fits your grip better.

Not everyone is a fan of the Glock grip angle.

Warrior1
January 19, 2014, 02:25 AM
what is that reason?

I am sure some people say that about bose speakers as well.

Not saying there isn't a valid reason, but i own a glock 19 and an sr9c, and i've yet to find a reason why they glock should cost more...
ruger....

justice06rr
January 23, 2014, 05:53 AM
Well the OP didn't mention anything about competition.
Glock has been around for much longer than the SR series.
Glock SPONSORS competitors
Glock made guns SPECIFICALLY for competition (G34, G35)
I still don't see that is a "reason" why a STANDARD Glock should cost more.

+1

Its all in the name. Glock is a very popular brand so its "supposed" to cost more.
Don't fall for that. Pick the gun you want, not because others say its "better". The Ruger SR series are excellent pistols.

I have owned a G19 Gen3 and G23 Gen2. Sold them both. Now I own a SR9c, which is saying something. I've also done IDPA and 3Gun with my Glocks. Nothing special about them. They shoot just fine, but so will the Ruger.

With Ruger you get an American made product that is backed with a great service and warranty.

I'd pick Glock only because Ruger insists on putting in manual firng inhibitor that requires separate motion from pulling the trigger to engable fire.

Glock also has a finish that resists rust better.

The SR series comes in the stainless (or duotone) slide whic will hold up better than Glock's tenifer finish.

Firing inhibitor... do you mean Magazine disconnect, or thumb safety? those can be good features.

JDR
January 23, 2014, 10:33 AM
Seriously, I would not buy another used .40 that I couldn't try out first. I really think that the .45 ACP equivalents of these guns are better than the .40s

jjones45
January 23, 2014, 01:20 PM
Ruger has no warranty but they stand behind their products. I know people who were the second or third owner of ruger firearms and ruger took care of their problems with no hassle. You would be hard pressed to find another manufacturer who does this. With that said I own a glock 23 and ruger sr45 and I love both. The ruger definitely has better ergos(gen3 vs sr40) and in my hands is more accurate. Sadly I shoot all my handguns more accurately than my glock although I don't shoot it bad. The stock rear sight just plain sucks on glocks(personal opinion) but this can easily be remedied with a quick swap. My glock has now become my least favorite striker gun I own but for some reason I don't won't to part with it. Probably because it's been dead reliable through thousands of rounds and conditions. I know this is cliché but it's gonna come down to personal preference as both are great options. So my vote would have to go glock, I mean ruger, no definitely a glock, ok ruger, you get my point.

Kuyong_Chuin
January 25, 2014, 04:52 AM
Ruger for several reasons. 1st it is a US company not a over seas company that move a factory over here. 2nd The has an unsupported barrel mean ether buying an after market barrel or not firing reloads in the gun safely. 3rd The Glock has unconventional rifling means plated or jacketed ammo only no lead. 4th You can use that extra $50 for more ammo instead of paying more for a gun that if you are going to shoot reloads in that you are going to have spend another $120+ on a new barrel.

bannockburn
January 26, 2014, 04:38 PM
Have tried both and the Ruger SR9c is a better fit ergonomically for me than the Glock.

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